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# 1 The ONE thing that REALLY REALLY sux
11-03-2009, 09:20 AM
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Sorry to say so drastic. I really love many aspects of the game, I did in beta and I do now that I returned. But truth be told, if I would have to nail my gripes down to one mayor issue, then it is the nerf, especially the nerf of the defense powers. I mean, I had little problems with Kung Fu and Dual Blades chars, went all well, but the powersets I REALLY liked and I REALLY wanted to do, Powerarmor and Sorcery, I could not for the love of the maker survive. The same quests I had easily made with my dual blade and martial arts chars, I DIE DIE DIE with my nice power armor guy. I dunno, invul does apparently nothing, it seems. At least it felt like fighting damn naked.

Sorry guys, but after playing about 20 different MMOs over the last 6 years (and NO I am NOT talking about WOW, I talk about Pre-CU SWG and EQ/EQ2) I really have never ever before seen so vastly borked powers. I mean, what the heck is wrong with you that you nerf the powers like this?

Distances - with a archer guy, I have to go almost toe to toe with my enemies, while NPCS blast me out of the sky from 200 meters away.

Some powers are so nerfed now it is heartbreaking. Mines from the Ammunition set... I recall how cool it was in beta, and now, its heartbreaking. Heal Drones... I could go on and on. But most perilous is this setting of the defensive powers. I mean, I get it, you wanted to force people group. Yes, but here is the newsflash: grouping isnt fashion anymore! I mean let people group because they enjoy, not because they die! What kind of negative thinking is that? And all I read in patch notes is "made appropriate to scale". I mean DO YOU THINK WE ARE STUIPID or what and don't know a nerf when a nerf happens?? Its that odd language game as my German Government speaks of "incidents" instead of war, when talking about Afghanistan.

Sorry but I am so aggravated. I have some chars I really like, but I cant play them because the sets are borked, the powers are nerfed and the defenses are nonexistent. Let people solo when they want and let people feel Super. THAT is your chance, not forcing them to group like big parents tell their kids how to play. It will not work!
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11-03-2009, 09:27 AM
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I'm going to go out on a limb and say user error.

I've had no problem leveling my power armor guy, in fact, he's been much easier for me than my MA characters. I'm going to guess that your tactics seem to lean more towards close combat. Instead of complaining, why not read the threads here on PA and Sorc and figure out how the powers work in synergy.

Good Luck!

PS - I only group when helping my lower level friends, so that argument is bunk.
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11-03-2009, 09:32 AM
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sounds like your problem elikal. Invuln is the best passive all around. Not as strong high lvls as LR, not as good low lvls as Regen, but completely effective the entire time you have it.

If you're having an easier time doing MA than PA, you're doing it wrong.
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11-03-2009, 09:35 AM
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Me either, my PA guy is perhaps my best PvP toon ...and I suck at PvP. I don't like the PvP and don't build my toons for it. But, he holds up pretty well in PvP and does excellent with PvE. I have Invuln with Str/Con SS's. It takes a lot to take him down. There might be something in your build that isn't working as it should or you might have things set up wrong. Certain stats aren't high enough to keep you protected enough perhaps.
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11-03-2009, 10:27 AM
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pft, I dunno, I died in that thrice XXX Canadian wilderness with my lv 12 PA guy about 2000 times
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11-03-2009, 11:03 AM
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Lets see your build Elikal. I'm really having a hard time believing that you're doing everything right and still dying.
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11-03-2009, 11:31 AM
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Lets see your build Elikal. I'm really having a hard time believing that you're doing everything right and still dying.
I see now I had not put anything into STR. I usually put most into End and Recovery to have much mana... err, Energy. I swear I played this game THOROUGLY in beta, but there are still things I don't think about. Like Invul scales with STR and everything scales with something else. Heck, this entire system is so complicated. Why can't all def powers just scale with the same, and be done with it. NO, for the sake of diversity every def works different. It took me weeks to get this concept of Builds right! And I swear, every frigging time I stand in front of the trainer getting a new powers with 30.000 from to chose I take out a calculator and count 4 hours and still I have no clue what power REALLY does what.

Sorry for the rant, but this is endless complicated, and if you ask me, nothing like that drove ppl away from CO. They don't want to play Excel char calculator! I mean, I have two university degrees, one best of my year, and I still have difficulties to understand what "Power X does Y dmg of Z% scales with A but not when sunday is raining!" or somesuch whatever is written in those descriptions! >.<


BUILD is here:
http://www.champions-online.com/char...s/1522852/view

(not sure if you can see it, I edited it now from Rec/end/int to STR/CON, trying out if thats better)
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11-03-2009, 11:39 AM
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I see you SS'd Strength, but I don't see Constitution in there, which is the meat of Invul's defensive power.

That said, Power Armor is a very high-energy demanding set because of the toggles, which means it generally works best with END and/or INT.

Synergy in skill/attribute selection really isn't there at the moment. :x
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11-03-2009, 12:04 PM
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I see you SS'd Strength, but I don't see Constitution in there, which is the meat of Invul's defensive power.

That said, Power Armor is a very high-energy demanding set because of the toggles, which means it generally works best with END and/or INT.

Synergy in skill/attribute selection really isn't there at the moment. :x
Str, Con, Int AND End... wow thats four. :(
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11-03-2009, 12:11 PM
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Power Armor sucks?? I find them very sturdy in PvE and PvP. I have not played one but if my archer can solo well, I believe PA can too.

Some defensive powers NEED to be nerfed.

The Mines from Munition was doing way too much damage but I think they over nerf it.. to the point that they even nerfed Particle Mine which is totally un-called for. Particle Mine sucks so hard.... and I just found out that you can't lay more than one type of the same mine. Oh darn it.. there goes my "trapper build". Hell, with 30s recharge, I doubt I'll enjoy trapping.


But back to OP, PA has a lot of tools to survive. I think you just need to adjust your stats.


The only trend I've seen is "a bit over-nerfed".
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