This might entirely be the wrong place for this... but I'm reading this sit down conversation Roper had and increasingly it looks like this rather aggressive company intentionally sabotaged Hellgate to get its hands on Mythos... which it would then develop with its own people as a gateway into the MMO genre....


http://www.1up.com/do/feature?cId=3169356


I'm starting to think Flagship going down WASN'T Ropers fault... because now Hanbit...which is owned largely by T3 is producing a mythos game that's already getting ready for closed beta...

Very, very interesting article...and I can easily believe that this is T3's intent. Mythos was/is a winner. I played it from the very first "friends and family" alpha test onward and just loved it.

T3 hurt themselves by ordering the recollection of the loan immediately, but they were perfectly within their rights to do so. The contract breaching was definitely over the top, however. But who knows where that wound up?

It's gonna be a really bad game when it actually comes out, though, from all looks. Completely new development team and all that.

That is my take on what happend. Not that Bill and the others in charge didn't make mistakes that allowed T3 to do that but I do think HG:L would have survived and still be going if T3 hadn't done what they did.

Agreed.

I mean the guys from t3 were almost comically uncooperative from the word go.


Further, this may say something poorly about Roper's business acumen... but I played hellgate long, I BOUGHT hellgate london... and on the whole it was a good game, and the people I talked to at work (I had a menial job then) were really into it too. Oddly enough the guy who talked me into it later died of a heart attack. A little hispanic dwarf.. not even making this part up. He was a cook, was like 4'5.

I enjoyed it as well. I actually liked it enough that there towards the end I even subscribed to it. The game was getting better. slowly but getting better. I think it could have found it's feet and survived if it had been permitted to. But all indications are that T3 wanted to loot the corpse so stuck the knife in.

Wow, I'm glad people are finally realizing this.

I am not so sure it would have lasted longer than it did anyway. I was there from beta to the day they pulled the plug and a lifer. They made some really bad mistakes early and got a very bad name in the market place. Hell, I remember once they had a version on the test server that was supposed to go live and somehow they lost it in translation and released a version two patches behind PTS. Just plain incompetence.

They missed on every event they tried to put forth. They were either bugged to heck or ill conceived. If flagship would have had a T-shirt that read "I Survived the Potato Event" I swear I would have bought it in a heart beat and had it framed.

It stunk because if the game had release at the stage it was just prior to the doors closing, it would have been huge. Most of the bugs had been fixed. They had the raidable content and a new zone on the PTS. It was looking good there.

I liked Mythos as well. Lifers at HG:L were granted automatic into Mythos as well for a while. I think the last beta patch that changed the views made it very player friend. It had a lot of promise, but who knows how the next folks would treat it.

Nice to find i wasn't the only one who enjoyed HG:L hehe

But yeah i jsut finished reading the article myself, and it does seem rather glaringly that it was T3's way of getting what they wanted.

Having said that, obviously there has to be some mis managment to get to a point where they can activly do that, but still.