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# 1 NERF: So... How is everyone feeling about asking for nerfs this morning?
09-01-2009, 05:58 AM
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Last evening I asked for infractions to include "Asking for Nerfs on the public forums."

My response was, anti Fuzz. :)

So, now that those nerfs have been handed out across the board...

Anyone feeling a little different today about how good an idea it is to come to the public forums and beg for nerfs? Or should I say, tell everyone what the exploits are in the game?
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09-01-2009, 06:00 AM
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I find the whole thing funny as hell.:D
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09-01-2009, 06:06 AM
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Made for some entertaining reading this morning.

*****ing on the forums is just as good as filling out a bug report. Thanks for all your input ladies.
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09-01-2009, 06:08 AM
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I'm shocked we haven't seen any "Thanks PvP" threads yet. Not that I don't think they wouldn't be warranted. Its blatantly obvious why the defensive passives got nerfed.
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09-01-2009, 06:09 AM
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I find it all to be of most delightful amusement. God forbid people group up to compensate for each otehrs shortcomings, rather then all being invidiaul super soloers. Oh no, that's ********. Let us al play singleplayer in this mmorpger. Because grouping sucks.
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09-01-2009, 06:12 AM
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I find it all to be of most delightful amusement. God forbid people group up to compensate for each otehrs shortcomings, rather then all being invidiaul super soloers. Oh no, that's ********. Let us al play singleplayer in this mmorpger. Because grouping sucks.
You may not like it, but this game is SUPPOSED to be solo friendly. Get used to it. It's what drew alot of us here.

BTW they didn't just nerf passives. My eyebeam no longer increases in damage over time. MUCH lower output.
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09-01-2009, 06:14 AM
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I'm shocked we haven't seen any "Thanks PvP" threads yet. Not that I don't think they wouldn't be warranted. Its blatantly obvious why the defensive passives got nerfed.
Defensive passives got nerfed because they were ridiculous in PvE also. The ONLY time I've died (lvl 1-19) with Regen, in pvp and pve, is when I was zoning out of the Saloon in Snake Gulch and a ton of cowboys started attacking me immediately and kept jerking me back and forth with lassos and holds where I couldn't do anything. Any other time, I was unkillable, even by groups of +3 lvl mobs.

They didn' t need a flat reduction, however, but a change in how the defensive passives scale with the levels. At 40, Regen was pretty balanced before the nerf, and I had to stack other healing methods and active defenses to get the same level of protection Regen alone gave me early on.
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09-01-2009, 06:18 AM
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I'm shocked we haven't seen any "Thanks PvP" threads yet. Not that I don't think they wouldn't be warranted. Its blatantly obvious why the defensive passives got nerfed.
Careful!! They'll hear you! Then you'll be insulted and told how, as a PvE player your opinion doesn't matter because you don't play the game correctly anyways.


Did you hear that! I think thier coming.....
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09-01-2009, 06:20 AM
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I find it all to be of most delightful amusement. God forbid people group up to compensate for each otehrs shortcomings, rather then all being invidiaul super soloers. Oh no, that's ********. Let us al play singleplayer in this mmorpger. Because grouping sucks.
Yeah, before the last character wipe, and even up till last night, I was soloing with every character. Teaming didn't feel necessary.

I think this is good though. Whenever I made a toon I thought okay, is this one regen or invul. Regardless of whether it fit there motif. Now, since everything feels a bit toned down, I can pick different passives. My only complaint is that they should hand out a full respec so we who have played already can re-adjust.
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09-01-2009, 06:21 AM
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Defensive passives got nerfed because they were ridiculous in PvE also. The ONLY time I've died (lvl 1-19) with Regen, in pvp and pve, is when I was zoning out of the Saloon in Snake Gulch and a ton of cowboys started attacking me immediately and kept jerking me back and forth with lassos and holds where I couldn't do anything. Any other time, I was unkillable, even by groups of +3 lvl mobs.

They didn' t need a flat reduction, however, but a change in how the defensive passives scale with the levels. At 40, Regen was pretty balanced before the nerf, and I had to stack other healing methods and active defenses to get the same level of protection Regen alone gave me early on.
I've used all the defensives except Defiance. I can be killed with all of them in both PvP and PvE if I'm attacked in the right way. Each defense has a weakness. People just don't want to learn the weaknesses and learn to fight them. They'd rather see them nerfed so that they're all essentially the same thing and have the same simple counter. Meanwhile, the offensive passives are still crap and still aren't worth taking.
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