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06-21-2010, 08:30 PM
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Is SS(super Stats)? Also when you say SS Dex/int meaning you get Super Stats Dex and int build because I might try that because it seems strongest but then I already put on Super Str and Super Agi(Dex). So should i countinue my Dex/Str build or should I just buy a Token thing from the cryptic shop because all I want to do is to become really powerful/ lots of Melee DPS.

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Dual Blades is powerful get Dragons Wrath and Sword Cyclone, DEX/STR. DEX/INT. DEX/CON, are all viable, though as was said you really only need STR to get to 70 for its maximum damage bonus. I like CON as a SS, big Hit Points give more flexibility then any other stat. Energy management is a problem for Dual Blades.
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06-22-2010, 06:47 AM
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Yep, SS is Super Stats. I wouldn't worry too much about your Dex/Str build. It should work fine depending on what you do. If you have energy issues, make sure you fully charge a Dragon power, like Dragon's Wrath before doing a maintain, it'll give you the Rush buff which gives you Energy over time to get longer maintains. Also, have one of the Forms active! Form of the Unleashed Tempest is good for a SS Dex character, and getting it to Rank 3 should help alleviate issues with low energy.

The main reason I like Int is just because Sword Cyclone becomes so much easier to Maintain for long periods, and it's easier to jump into a fight without requiring a few hits of energy builder first. It's mainly preferential. Stick with your Str/Dex build and figure out what you do/don't like about it, then decide if and how you'd want to change it before buying any Retcons. You might even be able to fix it by simply making certain stats a priority on your Primary and Secondary items.

One drawback to Str/Dex is both stats get most of their bonus from the Primary Offense item slot. So, it could be harder to get the full combined 60% SS damage bonus with both of those as a Super Stat. For instance, it's easy to buff up Ego and Dex since Ego gets a lot of buff from the Primary Utility slot while Dex gets it from the Primary Offense slot. Dex and Int work because Int is also gets a lot from the Primary Utility slot. Dex/Con, as Ganjamancer mentions works because it's easy to get more Con from Primary Defense.

Just something to keep in mind when choosing Super Stats. Dex/Str/Rec are Primary Offense. Con/Pre are Primary Defense. Int/Ego/End are Primary Utility. You'll find these stats on other locations, like the Secondaries and you'll find Dex and Str on Primary Utility and Defense items. However, it just won't be the BIG number. So, it'll just be harder, but not impossible, to buff it up to the full 30% damage bonus per Super Stat.

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Dual Blades is powerful get Dragons Wrath and Sword Cyclone, DEX/STR. DEX/INT. DEX/CON, are all viable, though as was said you really only need STR to get to 70 for its maximum damage bonus. I like CON as a SS, big Hit Points give more flexibility then any other stat. Energy management is a problem for Dual Blades.
Well, the nice thing about Con is you can get it relatively high by using the Primary Defense slot. Since Primary Defense focuses mainly on Pre/Con stats, it's a good spot to put a high Con item in for a bigger health pool. If you SS Con, then you can take care of Con in Primary Defense and use Primary Offense and Primary Defense to boost other stats too. Like Strength or Dex in Primary Offense and Int in Primary Utility slots.
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2 stats fighting for slots isnt a big issue its still not that difficult to get each to 200

it's when you have all 3 stats fighting for gear placement it becomes an issue
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I'm having a blast with the Ego/Dex build. I've thrown a prim and 2nd heal on killl on my offense as well as an energy on kill. I now use crowds as healing re-energizing sources.

Also, so far it is all EOTS all the time for me. I leap into the middle of a crowd and hold the EOTS key until everyone is dead. I pumped that up to level 3 as soon as possible and at level 24 I am running through large crowds of equal level mobs and I rarely lose health or energy.
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My Dual Blades character is DEX/EGO with STR as a tertiary. I'm happy... That is all.
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My Dual Blades character is STR/DEX and I am very satisfied.
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One benefit many people seem to forget is that the bonus damage from Focus is based in equal part from Strength and Dexterity.

As such, to get the most damage from Focus, SS Strength is important, or at least having it as a tertiary stat from your gear.



My current DB build involves using Guardian role + Lightning Reflexes/Resurgent Reiki with a Str/Dex build.

Since I'm not running an offensive passive, I need to get as much damage boost as I can from other sources while maintaining a heavy defense. Strength has made a noticeable contribution in this area.

For example, in the past I was running dex/ego brawler role with WOTEW offensive passive, and at around level 22-ish I could crit for 3k, which was awesome when it happened, but I was a paper bag for defense and my offense was largely luck based.

Now I can hit for 1k+ very reliably while having fantastic defense, never having to rely on a crit, though I still crit just as often but for only +60% damage rather than +85% ish, due to having lower Ego.

I just feel you get far more bang out of SSing Strength than Ego, though I have found it difficult to itemize for Strength given that it shares the offensive primary slot with Dex. I found its best to combine the two when possible if an item provides both, while searching for "Exoskelleton" defense items that also add Str/Dex and dodge/avoidance for defense, and then a heavy Ego item for the utility (also Intel or End would also be fine in this slot)


Seeing as my guy runs Unfettered for his focus buff, he constantly maintains his 8 focuses during pve and frequently turns the tables against foes in PVP as they unintentionally buff his damage.
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One benefit many people seem to forget is that the bonus damage from Focus is based in equal part from Strength and Dexterity.
To expand on this, here are some numbers I just tested in-game:

I started at 115 Strength and Dexterity, which is just talents and my Super Str/Dex. Adding 116 Strength (115 -> 231) improved Way of the Enlightend Warrior R3 by 8% (58 -> 66), and Focus by 2% per stack (12 -> 14) (you can find the damage bonus from a stack of Focus under the advanced description of Form of the Untamed Warrior).

With 8 stacks of Focus, that's a difference of 24% damage. However, that's additive with the about +200% damage bonus I already have. 300 -> 324 is almost a 10% overall damage increase.
If I had Super Ego instead of Super Strength, I'd gain about 40% critical severity (I have 50% already from gear). With a 25% crit rate, that's almost a 10% overall damage increase.

With the caveat that these numbers are very approximate,(especially on the Focus buff, if it gives a fractional damage bonus but only displays the integer), Strength and Ego come out very close together.

However, since Strength and Dex fight for the same equipment slots, I'm still going to say that Ego has the edge in this comparison. But the margin is not very wide.
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To expand on this, here are some numbers I just tested in-game:

I started at 115 Strength and Dexterity, which is just talents and my Super Str/Dex. Adding 116 Strength (115 -> 231) improved Way of the Enlightend Warrior R3 by 8% (58 -> 66), and Focus by 2% per stack (12 -> 14) (you can find the damage bonus from a stack of Focus under the advanced description of Form of the Untamed Warrior).

With 8 stacks of Focus, that's a difference of 24% damage. However, that's additive with the about +200% damage bonus I already have. 300 -> 324 is almost a 10% overall damage increase.
If I had Super Ego instead of Super Strength, I'd gain about 40% critical severity (I have 50% already from gear). With a 25% crit rate, that's almost a 10% overall damage increase.

With the caveat that these numbers are very approximate,(especially on the Focus buff, if it gives a fractional damage bonus but only displays the integer), Strength and Ego come out very close together.

However, since Strength and Dex fight for the same equipment slots, I'm still going to say that Ego has the edge in this comparison. But the margin is not very wide.
Nice number crunching my friend! Thanks!
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