Except that when one person calls you a horse, you can ignore him. When a second person calls you a horse, he may just be joking. When a dozen people call you a horse, you may want to look into buying a saddle.

As for your salient points... after looking through the rest of the thread... I didn't find any salient points by you.

Hmm... Not sure I raged (though I might have) just expressed serious disapproval but here's the thing.
I honestly thought it was an INTENDED game change..
This shows a lack of knowledge of the development cycle and well general lack of knowledge but also a hideous lack of confidence in Cryptic. It's not like powers and even sets haven't been seriously gimped by game changes in the past.
Or perhaps anyone who had a Defiance/rage concept build or somebody with a Might based toon that used Enrage. Enrage is not just a FOTM power.

When the inmates are running the asylum there typically is only one voice of reason alongside a lot of crazies. Guess which one I am. Hint: it's not one of the crazies. Just because you're incapable of logical or rational thought doesn't mean it hasn't been presented. It just means you can't see it. And that's ok too.

Hint: The difference between a sane person and a crazy person is that the crazy person is the one that thinks they're not crazy.

Pretty much. Villains always think they are heroes and so forth.

Cap-Fab, successfully derailing a dev thread this time. 1UP for you.

Not to wade into the "Who is the bigger idiot swamp'...but there is something a lot of people seem to be rather...focused on one point of view lets say.

I will reference DDO - because they had a new QA person come on board last year - and he spends a lot of time responding to the community, and giving insights and his perspective on things even in the face of the daily player rage over this and that and "Omg how could this massive bug that people pointed out on the test server have made it to live - you are all idiots" - which occurred on a daily basis there too.

QA might have a list of hundreds of bugs, big and small they are working on. Is the rage flavor of the day on that list? Sometimes it wasnt, because the bug reporting was really iffy in the game. Often it was - but it was somewhere on a long list. And some of the bugs were much bigger and more game breaking - that players never actually saw because they got fixed behind the scenes - and never told about it because no company advertises how many bugs they have because it is very bad press.

People seem to be jumping all over one person here because of his sig - but the point that players have no idea how many things are being worked on behind the scenes, what else was a MUST DO by a certain date because of marketing or management orders, and no player is ever going to see that internal set of action items.

Is a bug that affects a lot of people worth raging about - before its fixed? Sure. Often that can get a bug pushed up the queue and done much sooner if the rage is big, and people dont go overboard on insulting the company while doing it. Because insulting someone doing a job, and no matter what people like to think sitting behind their screens thousands of miles away from where the company is - it is still human beings behind that desk doing a job - most people react badly to being insulted, and you can hurt your cause more than help it by being 'just another nerd rager on the internet'.

He made some good points - and people are ignoring those good points. No one here knows what the list of bugs are. It could be 500 bugs for all you know, and the patch might have fixed 20 of them. Or it might not. No one is ever going to tell players because of the above reasons.

Being called a fanboi because you present a rational view that you cant really say to much about something you are never going to have all the information on is just purile and weak from the other side.

A big bug made it to live, and was fixed like all of ONE day later? And people are still going on about it?

Who is being irrational again?

No, I can understand his point about how bugs have priorities, not everything can be fixed, and we don't know what their workload is like. I've seen the same argument before. What annoys people, is being called a bunch of crybaby whiners just because we're not happy that the same old bugs are left being around for more than 2 years, a good number of them since launch. I think the unhappiness is justified.

I have a single bug peeve, and that's the targetting system still not working properly after more than 2 years since the game's release. I'm pretty sure it's been raised over and over in the past PTS's but it was never resolved. I'm pretty sure minor glitches that get through can be shouldered off easily. Game-breaking bugs like the Enrage one that invalidates someone's build entirely should have been caught before going live. It's not the first time it's happened either.

For me it's just that. For others, they have their own specific peeve(s) about bugs still present over several PTS cycles and I can understand that they have had enough. The excuse of not being able to fix everything at one go is fine for a considerable period of time, anything beyond that will start becoming more and more unacceptable as each month, and even each year, passes.

But nevermind, that's apparently unreasonable crying/whining.

I will give credit to Cryptic for addressing the Enrage issue promptly. Credit is given where it's due though.

The fix is in, why is this thread still "open" much less "stickied"?