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04-28-2012, 10:03 AM
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I hope you and others see that i have nothing nice to say about Cryptic. I still have nothing but love for you guys in PvP who i really enjoyed playing with.

There are very few (count on one hand) people who i generally dislike in the Hero Games (and the same people in Champions Online as a whole). I dislike 70% of the way the hero games are handled.

There were good things in this patch and I have purposefully ignored them because the bad simply outweighs the good.

THe people playing the game are not the problem.. I can sum all my issues with champions up rather easily. Balance, Reward, Lore and (to a much lesser extent) Marketing.

I love their character creator. I love freeform power system in general. I do not accept that having a freeform system cannot be balanced (PvE AND PvP). I do not accept that missions (hotspots) and play-styles (worthless holds in open misisons, no damage counts for using confuses) cannot be rewarded I do not accept that the game should cater powers, lore and dev time to majority Fantasy lore, as they should clearly be focusing on superhero lore. I do not accept that that the game cannot find the millions of comic book, superhero, gamer, and geek audience to 1) show interest/subscribe, 2) play and 3) pay.


The company's actions as a whole have ****ed me off alot more since they went to Atari and later PWE. That's economics tho.. I kept giving them my money. I've been asking for a telepathy passive since the day i loaded the game. I wanted to play a telepath in a superhero game.. apparently this consists of my character making "concentrating" poses while she does no damage, no soak, no heal and now (yes finally) no holds.

Please report my post for flaming as complaining about either telepathy or the Mez/Crowdcontrol/knockback system is a official (yet invisible) rule in all the forum posts.
Ok.. first part of what you wrote had sense and some good points, I agree... But when you mentioned that telepathy thing... So, is it all about them not fixing telepathy?...

Well, i guess we just like different thing... Me for example, I don't really care is there PvP at all in this game. Sure it's fun to PvP sometimes, but if they will completely delete it from the game, I won't even notice it imediately. Same for telepathy, yea, sure, it would be nice to play a telepath, but if i can't make a telepath, it's not something that will make me leave.
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04-28-2012, 12:53 PM
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I do not accept that missions (hotspots) and play-styles (worthless holds in open misisons, no damage counts for using confuses) cannot be rewarded I do not accept that the game should cater powers, lore and dev time to majority Fantasy lore, as they should clearly be focusing on superhero lore.

Right not flaming you or whut not but Champions has strong fantasy roots so being a long time Champions player (the Pen and paper original not the mmo ) that few sentences here created a LOLWHUT moment.
Champions has more in common with D&D than say Batman. Superhero lore hardly comes into it at all.
The game is meant to cater to the PnP geeks not the comic ones.

Example one: Every human Champions powers be it super intelligence to flaming hands is all down to the MAGIC GENE.

Example two: The Champions Universe consists of several MOSTLY FANTASY realms just happens the one most of the PnP and MMO exists in is the comic book one. Better explained by others here :P http://forums.champions-online.com/s...d.php?t=113137

And yes I am indeed that anal \o/
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04-28-2012, 01:16 PM
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PvP is not dead.
The people who say that are people who haven't been logging into the game lately to play.
Yesterday I was in 2 UTC T4 lava matches (both 5v5), a couple ZA matches, a few team duels, and tons of populated B.A.S.H matches, all within an hour or two of playing.
Doesn't feel any different from before....actually, before the patch 5v5 UTC matches didn't happen often.
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Ok.. first part of what you wrote had sense and some good points, I agree... But when you mentioned that telepathy thing... So, is it all about them not fixing telepathy?...

Well, i guess we just like different thing... Me for example, I don't really care is there PvP at all in this game. Sure it's fun to PvP sometimes, but if they will completely delete it from the game, I won't even notice it imediately. Same for telepathy, yea, sure, it would be nice to play a telepath, but if i can't make a telepath, it's not something that will make me leave.
See but the REASON i chose this game over countless other options were 1) the lore and 2) the ability to make a freeform Mez centric TELEPATHY THEMED character. Take away the reasons why I give you money and I'll have to re-evaluate the action of giving you money.

I know this isn't the reason other people bought the game. If anyone loves Cryptic, please feel free.. no need to join my " i hate you" bandwagon. But as for me and MY house (Joshua 24:15) I say **** em. Why? Because they've done nothing but continuously **** me.



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Me for example, I don't really care is there PvP at all in this game. Sure it's fun to PvP sometimes, but if they will completely delete it from the game, I won't even notice it imediately.
see, I think you're being a bit untruthful here, since it'd be logical to presume that without pvp in the game, there'd be no Hero Games board... I believe you would notice, 'cause that would diminish the number of boards you'd have available in which to contribute biased, ignorant nonsense regarding aspects of the game you admittedly don't explore.
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see, I think you're being a bit untruthful here, since it'd be logical to presume that without pvp in the game, there'd be no Hero Games board... I believe you would notice, 'cause that would diminish the number of boards you'd have available in which to contribute biased, ignorant nonsense regarding aspects of the game you admittedly don't explore.
Um... what?

I really hope I misunderstood you (my english isn't good enough to understand some "complicated" statements), because as I see it, I can post on any topic I want, even if I have no idea what this is all about. this is what forums are for, to show your opinions. And no, there is no "wrong" opinions, just different.

Still, I hope i misunderstood you.
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Um... what?

I really hope I misunderstood you (my english isn't good enough to understand some "complicated" statements), because as I see it, I can post on any topic I want, even if I have no idea what this is all about. this is what forums are for, to show your opinions. And no, there is no "wrong" opinions, just different.

Still, I hope i misunderstood you.
Yeah, you misunderstood him, sorry.

He's saying PvP obviously isn't "dead" because the forum for it is still up.

Counterexample: PTS C-Store Forum
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Um... what?

I really hope I misunderstood you (my english isn't good enough to understand some "complicated" statements), because as I see it, I can post on any topic I want, even if I have no idea what this is all about. this is what forums are for, to show your opinions. And no, there is no "wrong" opinions, just different.

Still, I hope i misunderstood you.
If you understood me to say you have no right to post where you want, then yes, you misunderstood.

However, you are able, perhaps, to understand my confusion as to why you would continue to contribute to discussions where the topic is PvP when you ...

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don't really care is there PvP at all in this game.
For example, I don't RP in this game. Therefore, when posts come up asking for more dev time be put into RP locales in the game, I remain mute, as I don't fully understand their concerns, and would be debasing the conversation if I participated, even though I feel there are plenty of places available for ppl to RP already and would really like to see more dev time focused on aspects of the game that I actually enjoy. See how that works?

Understandable?
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And no, there is no "wrong" opinions, just different.
There are uninformed opinions. If your opinion is based on a severe lack of information, then yes, it's different in that it has no practical bearing on the posts in question.
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If you understood me to say you have no right to post where you want, then yes, you misunderstood.

However, you are able, perhaps, to understand my confusion as to why you would continue to contribute to discussions where the topic is PvP when you ...



For example, I don't RP in this game. Therefore, when posts come up asking for more dev time be put into RP locales in the game, I remain mute, as I don't fully understand their concerns, and would be debasing the conversation if I participated, even though I feel there are plenty of places available for ppl to RP already and would really like to see more dev time focused on aspects of the game that I actually enjoy. See how that works?

Understandable?
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