Hello I have been trying to make a sigle sword user and can't decide what would work better.

Defiance/Enrage with CON/END with STR

Or going WotW/Form with DEX/EGO with STR

I know forms and Enrage don't play well together so I guess I am really trying to find out what kind of damage increse I will see from Enrage compared to Form?

Also I am assuming Aspet of the Bestial will work with either for % increase?

Thank you,

You'll get more damage out of the Dex/Ego build than you will out of the Con/End one just because you've got an Offensive passive on that one as opposed to a defensive one, and because Enrage scales with STR, which you don't have superstatted on the first one.

If you want to do a lot of damage with Enrage on a target that dishes the Bleeds, try picking up something like STR/DEX, getting decent crit severity with Ego, and tossing in some energy management stat like Rec or Int on your gear. Then use WotW as your passive, and get Aspect of the Bestial. Enrage and AotB can run together, unlike Enrage and the forms.

That being said though... my personal suggestion for single blades (and I say this A LOT, for people wanting to build out of the MA tree) would be SSing DEX and INT, stacking Ego through items, and using Quarry as your passive. Pick up Form of the Tempest for the ease of Focus stacking, and get to 70 or so str from gear, and you'll see the BIG numbers, on your Ruptures.

Keep in mind that Aspects and Forms are mutually exclusive.

Thanks for the input it helped a TON. How does this look? I am not sold on howl.

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: Level 40 Champion

Superstats:
Level 6: Super Dexterity
Level 13: Super Intelligence

Powers:
Level 1: Bestial Fury -- Rip And Tear!
Level 1: Reaper's Caress
Level 6: Scything Blade -- Swallowtail Cut, Rank 2
Level 6: Flight -- Rank 2, Rank 3
Level 8: Quarry -- Rank 2, Rank 3
Level 11: Form of the Tempest -- Rank 2, Rank 3
Level 14: Pounce
Level 17: Aspect Of The Bestial -- Rank 2, Rank 3
Level 20: Shadow Shroud -- Terrifying Visage
Level 23: Masterful Dodge -- Unfettered Strikes
Level 26: Reaper's Embrace -- Rank 2, Rank 3
Level 29: Conviction -- Rank 2
Level 32: Retaliation
Level 35: Howl
Level 35: Teleport
Level 38: Lightning Reflexes -- Rank 2, Rank 3

Talents:
Level 1: Mechanized
Level 6: Physical Conditioning
Level 9: Professional Athlete
Level 12: Ascetic
Level 15: Academics
Level 18: Shooter
Level 21: Acrobat

Yep, this is very true. Remember: Either SS STR/DEX, and get Enrage, WotW, and Aspect of the Bestial

OR

SS DEX/INT, get STR to 70 from gear, and pick up Quarry and Form of the Tempest.

Just my two cents :)


Edit: I didn't notice you'd responded with another build. IMO, it looks... pretty darn snappy. I'd recommend making room for Bite somewhere, since it seems to be the most expedient method for stacking Bleed effects on bosses that will live long enough for that to matter, but... I think you'd have an awful lot of fun playing a character like that.

Maybe replace Howl with Bite? The single stack of Enrage would be negligible, damage-wise, and it would give you the bleed stacking power. On the other hand, the damage reduction from the AoE fear would help with the survivability deficit that comes from using an offensive passive in Brawler.

Form of the tempest and aspect of the bestial don't stack, taking both is pointless. You take a way of stacking enrage (roomsweeper works well especially in brawler mode) and aspect of the bestial or just a form. (though 1 stack of enrage is allowed)

Reaper's embrace really should have the no mercy advantage.

a charged scything blade and no mercy embrace is likely to to build focus stacks from form of the swordsman at r1 faster than even rank3 form of the tempest, so you can hit the maximum damage buff earlier.

Flight and Pounce do not play well together (lunges don't lunge you while a flight power is activated)

Reaper's Caress is pretty bad, especially since you're taking rip n tear. Move the lower bestial powers up to the start and you can skip it.

You aware you have no passive until lv38?! Probably wanna grab lightning reflexes much earlier (and grab BCR\RR)

or slot in way of the warrior if you wanna stance dance unless either the form was meant to be way of the warrior? Ive done that by mistake before

Well crap I had not read that bestial and forms did not stack, I just though it was enrage that did not work. That being said, is Aspect better than form?

I have quarry.

Forms = 8 stacks of Focus for 13-15% each based on your Dex so that has to be superstatted for forms to be effective. Which they can be.. 8 x 13 or 15% = 104 or 120% damage bonus.
Enrage I don't know so well but it is linked to Strength and I suspect it works the same way which means you need superstatted Str to make it really effective.
Enrage is more of a fiddle to get 8 stacks of in a blade build than Focus that is to say first get defiant as your passive then enrage to create 1 enrage stack + 1 enrage for every 2 stacks of defiant and howl to maintain the enrage stacks then keep tapping howl and enrage before your enrage stacks run out. With form of the tempest you just get focus whenever the crits appear. Defiant scales off Con btw which is why CO Wiki recommends Str/Con for might builds.
Beastial fury has a real tangible bonus with Enrage which doubles the 15% bleed chance to 30% however bleeds occur pretty fast with just 15%
Aspect of the beastial can be run at the same time as enrage but the damage bonus is only 18% + 5 stacks of beastial strength at 2% each if you rank it up to 3.
With a blade build go for Focus and Dex/Ego or Dex/Con and stack ego w gear, Focus in conjunction with crits will give nice damage bonuses regardless of passive.
Theoretically you could benefit from Aspect of the beastial and a load of enrage stacks but stacking enrage without defiant is gonna be really tricky without Defiance which needs superstatted Con.
P.S. Enrage lasts much longer than focus but the best things to build it/stack it up seem to come from the Might tree (how strange!)

Right don't know how i missed that.