I must confess, i'm not exactly sure what point you're trying to make about this, or if you're you're saying you think $31 is a good price for one costume set, where as it's previously always been worth $5

Personally.. for $31, i'd rather eat a meal for a day, but if the costume was back down to $5, i wouldn't mind spending it on that, as long as i still get my meal.

you can hold an heck of raw ore but to sell it you have to refine it and you can only refine 8000 to sell at one time that's the 8000 limit we speak of. You can only submit 7 offers at a time if your not willing to do an exchange for the current rates like if the rate is 200 and I submit 175 I have to wait til someone that's selling the C points accepts my offer and you can only make 7 offers at once.

This limits you to 56000 sales per day at the rate of 200 to 1 thats only 280 C store points if you saved that up... you can earn a total of 3000 per character per day if you play about 6 hours time to do the daily alerts, drifter daily, and then do nemcon and an adventure pack. This comes to 15 c store points for a 6 hour grind every day. this means to afford a 380 costume pack the person must play 6 hours a day for 26 days, even with multiple characters thats more than 6 hours play to do all the dailies and such to equal that same amount. the boosters raise the amount gained by an extra 20% so thats 600 more points so that lowers the time to 20 days but that's still a very long time to earn 1 costume pack for a heck of a lot of work.

the other side of it has 200 questionite bought for 1 c store point which a gear cost 35000 questionite thats only 175 c store points or roughly $1.75... you can do an online survey for that in less than 30 minutes.... it doesn't cost that much to get their gear as a matter of fact people that did the questionite system early and sold it for 1 point per 65 could resell right now and clean up. the set amount I stated at 100 would make it so they would be paying $3.50 instead of the $1.75 OR they would have to grind the 6 hours with us and still pay the $1.75 but they would still get their items way sooner than the 20-26 days the silver players would have to wait.

Other players have described experiences that are much less than 6 hours per day. Even if they did not, the end of the exchange that actually puts money in Cryptic's pockets (and I am only referring to the Q-Exchange process here. A Silver that buys something in the C-Store is getting what they pay for immediately), the C-Point buyer, should have the exchange rate weighted for them.

then just remove the exchange completely it serves no point, because the average free player will never be able to afford them and they can't get c store points at all with the current exchange rate and limits... its just a waste of time your better off doing those online surveys with your time and getting $20 a week and use it to buy the C store points it would actually be faster than grinding the exchange in game, let the c point holders farm their own questionite and let them take years to get their items.

My point on this was the fact that, my family blows that in one meal together. We could stay home hand eat sandwiches for less. Since the inflation being what it is, one SHOULD be able to get 6 costume sets as they previously used to cost, but now with the questionite as currency... it makes them, $31, instead of the five, so you can either buy them at that price, or don't. I'd buy them before they hit $50.

Thank you for that clarification. While I understand that most Silver players probably don't have a plethora of characters stabled, so they are therefore limited as you say. But why waste the time looking for MA and SC and risking NOT getting credit, or getting into a Nemcon, and all that when you can do the one mission to get the 2000- yes I know that the Burst one really is unloved, but if you did just that with each character you do have, by the time you get done, it may be time for Lt. Patil to offer Another round of those for yet another 2000. Now all the characters you used would have 4000. You want to log more hours? More power to ya. For me, RL comes first.

So, refine all of that Questionite, put it in for 50 to 1, pick a character, ANY character, to go back in there and CANCEL the sale, retrieve all the ones you put up, Then have that ONE character put up the entire bulk of questionite as ONE offer. You have just removed the limit of seven offers AND you don't have all that unrefined setting around, unless you actually logged more hours, but check to see if you can refine more more often, you might be surprised that you can do 16000 in one 24hr. period. Some quick math- if you only had 4 characters and you did both sets of missions offered by Patil- incidentally, he changes the missions at 3pm and 7 pm server time on a US server, usually- that nets you 4000 x 4= 16000- refine it all as soon as you have done both of the those, provided you didn't do any Nemesis Docksides... then put it in for the 50 to 1 ratio, that's 3 characters ONLY, submitting their 4000, each. The one character Cancels all three offers takes the 12000 and then submits an offer- say for your 175 to 1- you actually retain 75, because 175 doesn't go into 16000 evenly, so you are putting ONE offer of 15,925 at 175 to 1 for 91 CP. If you had 100 more it would be 16100 for 92... how does that figure into the time required to get that 360 CP costume set? 4 Days.( 360/ 92= 3.***), that is provided someone is willing to come down to your offer price.

In a nut shell- JUST refine it. It will reset and you can refine even more. I have personally refined more than the 8000 limit in a 24 hour time frame. My personal total so far has been 10600 refined, in that time, on one character. If this is a bug, fine, then they should ONLY offer the mission that gives Q as the reward Once/day as well. That will not set well with a lot of people. The fact that they have it twice a day is to get more into the hands of those who need or want it. As for the 8000 twice in one day- This is a global game and players who aren't on 24/7 really don't realize this is available cause they either only play in the day or at night in their home regions. I have several windows of opportunity for when I can get on, which is how I discovered this in the first place.

I hope this cleared up my previous post and didn't add more confusion.

Silver players have been able to afford them now. Even at above the price range you mention. As to the, "they can't get c store points at all with the current exchange rate and limits," this contradicts others' experience. You are claiming that Silver players cannot get even 1 CP under the current system, and yet they say otherwise. Have you polled the entirety of the Silver player base to determine that, "the average," player is incapable of getting C-Points ?

You're a "glass-is-half-empty" kinda guy, aren't ya?
Why remove an entire system just because you think it's useless and serves no point, the point is still there, to give free players the ability to access c points, and yet just because you'rte not being handed it instantly, you don't like it.

While i may not be silver, i have managed to buy almost 1,000 C-points using Q-ore, and i didn't even start when it was originally 50 Q per point, so eveyrone else would have had a head start. If i can do that, why can't you manage to afford one lousy c point? You're exaggeration of no one being able to afford it is just that, an exaggeration, even at the maximum price of 500, you do one daily Quesitonite mission, you can buy 4 C-Points per mission.


Hmm... okay.. while i may not completely agree with your perspective, i can understand what you're saying

And so long as you can get the point across, that's all a Point of View really is and all that really matters. No one has to agree with it, they just have to understand it.

Fallacy. Its not a free market, its being controlled.

It's a common mistake people make though. I present you an apple or an orange, and I say you can buy EITHER one. You have a choice right (at least between apples and oranges)....?

Okay so we agree. You still have a choice.

But now lets say I am the government and I outlaw a key pesticide used in orange growing. Then I sell limited liscenes to orange growers allowing them an opportunity to buy that pesticide again (in limited quanitities) but the liscense cost them DEARLY. Then I pass laws impeding the amount of oranges that can be shipped in a truck at one time increasing the cost of transporting the oranges to the supermarket.

Now when you go to the supermarket you can buy an apple for $1.00 or an orange for $95.78.

Do you still have a choice? People trying to argue the technical definition of the word "choice" might say yes, but anyone with their head screwed on right will answer "NO".

Those arguing the technical definition of the word choice might even claim it was a "free market", when in fact it was some evil power (this case, ME) that manipulated the price of the orange FORCING you to buy an apple.

Questionite comes in at unreasonably slow rate. There is a limit to how much Questionite you can farm per day. The price on Questionite items are set by powers beyond our control.

Tell me again how precisely this is a "free market" ????