Twitter? Really?

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Okay, Cryptic, I'll come out and say it.

I don't follow "Twitter". In fact, I loathe Twitter. I find it to be yet another passing fad in this next generation of narcissism and instantly useless information. I find no redeemable traits in this "service" whatsoever.

With that said, I will not view your "tweets", and I shouldn't have to. All the information and updates that are supplied via Twitter should first and foremost be available on your website. There should be no reason that I should need to go to another website to get information on the game, trivial or not, when it should be here.

I understand you are trying to reach out to the youth and trying to be hip and what have you, but the same people you are trying to reach out to are the same people that embraced MySpace for the short while that was all the rage.

I'm not so involved in the game that I need whatever 140 character (I had to Google that) update you have sent to my cell phone. Hell, I hardly use that except to check the time.

What I am saying is that a weekly update thread in the forums or a "recent news" page on the main site will do just fine.

I'm not some old fogey refusing to "embrace technology" or anything. I'm only 32, ferchistsakes. I am, however, a player that thinks that Twitter's 15 minutes are almost up and would like to keep my information"in house", so to speak.

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Nice. totally agree with you. I consider myself a bit of an internet baby but I still hate this kind of thing.

You have your own site. Use it.

i don't wanna have to trawl the internet for information that should be here.

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what is this 'Twitter' thing you speak of?

This interwebz is confusing ... bring back the birch!

seriously tho .. I agree, what's the point in the website if you then have to trawl around the world of social networking to get the info.

Never tweeted, never plan to.

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Ok im confused what earth shattering bit of info was posted on twitter as I've clearly missed something?

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Is it Dev's posting what they are doing? Which I have no problem with as it is the person not the company posting it, even if it is under a Dev handle. Or is there a Cryptic/Champions twitter?

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I hate Twitter as well and couldn't agree more with the OP.

See, not every person in their 20's is as self involved as people like to think.

Ultimately I see it as being lazy. Like fresh breath strips, we don't even have to suck anymore.

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Is it Dev's posting what they are doing? Which I have no problem with as it is the person not the company posting it, even if it is under a Dev handle. Or is there a Cryptic/Champions twitter?

There is a specific Twitter account for Co (I refuse to look up the account, you can do it). Also, they have the ability to Twitter from in-game somehow.

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Even if it is specific employees...why not just give em a blog page on the site? Make it more accessible.

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Okay, Cryptic, I'll come out and say it.

I don't follow "Twitter". In fact, I loathe Twitter. I find it to be yet another passing fad in this next generation of narcissism and instantly useless information. I find no redeemable traits in this "service" whatsoever.

With that said, I will not view your "tweets", and I shouldn't have to. All the information and updates that are supplied via Twitter should first and foremost be available on your website. There should be no reason that I should need to go to another website to get information on the game, trivial or not, when it should be here.

...

What I am saying is that a weekly update thread in the forums or a "recent news" page on the main site will do just fine.

Agreed, not only do I not really want to look up the twitters, from work (where I often frequent the forums) I can't access Twitter even if I wanted to. I don't mind them using Twitter if they want, but anything posted there also needs to be posted in a sticky thread here on the forums.

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*tweet tweet*

What?

"Cryptic tweets suck and i had a great sandwich earlier. -8bithero"

More to the point though;

I agree that ALL info should be here, but i also understand and endorse their choice to do it elsewhere too.

As long as info is here, other ventures don't matter to those who don't use them.

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IMO all new updates and news should be posted on /b/

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IMO all new updates and news should be posted on /b/

It would keep us updated on the tentacle pron to come...

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But you don't have to from what I've seen (and i admit i mite have missed it) all the info posted on twitter has also been posted either here on the forums or on the web page.

the only stuff i can think of not being on here is when the forums/site/game were all down and there were some updates posted on Daeke



So what exactly is the problem?

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never used my space, wont use twitter or facebook orany other new fads they bring about.

The fact they added twitter is like them saying we expect this game to be arround as long as twitter( which i give 6-8 months before people get boared and make a new one)

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really?

twitter?

realllllyyyy?

cmon dude really?

geez....

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But you don't have to from what I've seen (and i admit i mite have missed it) all the info posted on twitter has also been posted either here on the forums or on the web page.

the only stuff i can think of not being on here is when the forums/site/game were all down and there were some updates posted on Daeke

So what exactly is the problem?

Better said then mine.

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Okay, Cryptic, I'll come out and say it.

I don't follow "Twitter". In fact, I loathe Twitter. I find it to be yet another passing fad in this next generation of narcissism and instantly useless information. I find no redeemable traits in this "service" whatsoever.


MEE FINEZ ID KWYTE BENUHFISHULZ TA NOZE WEN KONYAY WEST TAYKZ UH DUMPERZ.

*nods*


With that said, I will not view your "tweets", and I shouldn't have to. All the information and updates that are supplied via Twitter should first and foremost be available on your website. There should be no reason that I should need to go to another website to get information on the game, trivial or not, when it should be here.


DER UH GUD POYNT HEER ... WYE MEE HAZ TA FINEZ OFFISHUL CHAMPEENZ NOOZ SUMWARE ELS?

*ponder*


I understand you are trying to reach out to the youth and trying to be hip and what have you, but the same people you are trying to reach out to are the same people that embraced MySpace for the short while that was all the rage.


MYSPAYS IZ NA AROWN ENNEE LONNER?!

WEN DIS HAPPUN?

*goes to update his MySpace page but gets bogged down with all the porn ads swarming his inbox*


I'm not so involved in the game that I need whatever 140 character (I had to Google that) update you have sent to my cell phone. Hell, I hardly use that except to check the time.


DATZ RITE!

WYE KANT YOOZ HAZ CHAMPEENZ NOOZ SENT TA UH MOOR YOOSFUL LOKAYSHUNZ LYKE MA TOESTER?

*ponder*


What I am saying is that a weekly update thread in the forums or a "recent news" page on the main site will do just fine.


OH .... MEE TAWT YOO WUZ TRYUN TA MAYK UH SOSHUL KOMMENAREE BOWT TEKNOLUJEEZ.

KRUUNCHARZ FEELZ STOOPID NOW.

*blushes*


I'm not some old fogey refusing to "embrace technology" or anything. I'm only 32, ferchistsakes. I am, however, a player that thinks that Twitter's 15 minutes are almost up and would like to keep my information"in house", so to speak.

YOOZ NUT OLD ANNA YOOZ NUT UH GEEK EEDUR.

YOOZ UH UNINFORMD NERD.

*cackles and runs off*

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never used my space, wont use twitter or facebook orany other new fads they bring about.

The fact they added twitter is like them saying we expect this game to be arround as long as twitter( which i give 6-8 months before people get boared and make a new one)
Well it's more likely because apparently twitter is oh so popular in the gamer society.

Yes this was sarcasm.
In my entire friend list with gamers I have 1 that uses/knows what Twitter is. The other fortyelven people not so much.



Ehhh... the most likely reason is because Twitter is da shizzles with da home crew on the web(/wrists after writing that)... or something like that... You know the currently most popular thing on the net.
But whatever... Let them use Twitter... As long as they don't just put up info and updates there. And learn that PDT is a very limited time zone.

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YOOZ NUT OLD ANNA YOOZ NUT UH GEEK EEDUR.

YOOZ UH UNINFORMD NERD.

*cackles and runs off*

I'll get you for that, Kruunch.

Mark my words, as soon as Vasagi gets me into the NERF SG, you will pay.

*shakes fist menacingly*

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I don't follow "Twitter". In fact, I loathe Twitter. I find it to be yet another passing fad in this next generation of narcissism and instantly useless information. I find no redeemable traits in this "service" whatsoever.

I don't follow the CO Twitter, but I did sign up to Twitter back when we had an extended power outage where I lived last winter... the power company sent out updates using it. Twitter, to my use of it, was just a webpage (I don't do text messages on my phone, what can I say?) that was nicely minimal when it came to graphics, where I could see updates about things I cared about. I didn't have to wade through a generation's narcissism while getting focused updates about something I was concerned about, because I didn't sign up to see some random teenager's instantly useless information.

It's a "technology" that happens to provide an easy way for companies to send out updates to people who specifically have taken action to see those updates. If you just sign up to stuff that you want to see, it isn't painful to see it. You don't have to buy into some generational fad and more than you did when you tried email or IM or a web browser, It's just another communication tool that may be useful to you... if you use it in a way that is useful to you.

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dont mean to be a party pooper, but if the server goes down some times so does the website , twitter can then be used as an alternate info feed/status update.

my 2 pence

/flex

also 8bit pm me your @handle ill add you in game and try and get u in dude

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dont mean to be a party pooper, but if the server goes down some times so does the website , twitter can then be used as an alternate info feed/status update.

my 2 pence

/flex

also 8bit pm me your @handle ill add you in game and try and get u in dude

Done and done.

I might be on tonight. I usually don't play much during the week so there is no hurry in adding me.

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Okay, Cryptic, I'll come out and say it.

I don't follow "Twitter". In fact, I loathe Twitter. I find it to be yet another passing fad in this next generation of narcissism and instantly useless information. I find no redeemable traits in this "service" whatsoever.

With that said, I will not view your "tweets", and I shouldn't have to. All the information and updates that are supplied via Twitter should first and foremost be available on your website. There should be no reason that I should need to go to another website to get information on the game, trivial or not, when it should be here.

I understand you are trying to reach out to the youth and trying to be hip and what have you, but the same people you are trying to reach out to are the same people that embraced MySpace for the short while that was all the rage.

I'm not so involved in the game that I need whatever 140 character (I had to Google that) update you have sent to my cell phone. Hell, I hardly use that except to check the time.

What I am saying is that a weekly update thread in the forums or a "recent news" page on the main site will do just fine.

I'm not some old fogey refusing to "embrace technology" or anything. I'm only 32, ferchistsakes. I am, however, a player that thinks that Twitter's 15 minutes are almost up and would like to keep my information"in house", so to speak.

I don't use Twitter but I'm not sure you understand its power. You do kind of sound like an old fogey because you haven't taken the time to understand the technology. You may NOT be an old fogey, but you are getting your information from old fogeys, apparently.

Everyone thinks it's all about 140 character updates such as, "Lol, I think she just looked me." or "Just got my first coffee today!"

Truthfully, the power of Twitter is the global conversation. Twitter watches all the updates being posted and looks for trends. When enough people are talking about the same thing (such as protest violence, or low flying planes in Manhattan) then it becomes a "trend" and everyone logged into the site sees the updates relevant, and can participate.

There's a reason why entire nations block access to Twitter when the poo hits the fan.

I don't use it because I don't have anything important to say about my daily goings-ons, and I don't particularly feel the need to participate in a global conversation... but it's actually changing the world. I don't mean to sound over-dramatic, but it certainly is doing just that in nations without as much free speech as we've come to expect.

Regarding Twitter's 15 minutes of fame... for now the site is simple and it's not trying to be everything to everyone. MySpace made that mistake, and now Facebook is making that mistake. Twitter will remain popular for as long it remains lightweight and simple to use.

I just wanted to fill you in. I have to go now... I think a girl just looked at me and I need my first cup of coffee.

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dont mean to be a party pooper, but if the server goes down some times so does the website , twitter can then be used as an alternate info feed/status update.


True, but when the server is down and the website IS up, it'd be nice to be able to come here instead of looking around. Most things can be found on either, but I've had times when I'd either have to twitter or read some generic user post linking twitter (ultimately the same thing) to find out what was going on.

Another thing that gets me.

There's emergency maintenance.
They post a news update saying there is emergency maintenance, expecting x hours of downtime.
30 minutes later it's gone and the servers are still down.


What's the point of having latest news if it can't even keep the latest news?

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I actually don't even mind that they're posting updates via twitter...

However... I agree that the updates should be posted on the forums and/or the main CO page. It's frustrating when you have to get the official company info by going to third party websites, when there's an official page.

SoE did the same thing with FreeRealms (strange, I've now mentioned this game in back-to-back posts regarding Cryptic and CO, which kind of scares me, since SoE's handling of that game was a disaster)... The game would be down for hours and you would check forums and the website with no information, until a player (not even a dev) makes a post saying "Oh, they said this on twitter:". Or there would be a player post about "check out this new feature coming, they just tweeted about it!" Really? Cool... perhaps that's important information they should have posted here. I mean, that's the point of having an official website.

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When I saw you can tweet from in game I really bust out laughing IRL.

I mean, sure tweeting is great, it's a fast easy way of exchanging short ideas and messages that has done some good things....and a LOT of useless things. This is one of those useless things. It's just there for "Oo shiny" factor I think. But meh, maybe some people get some enjoyment out of it.

More power to those people I guess.

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I have roughly 50 contacts on my Pidgin and Skype combined, only about 5 of which I'd bother pulling out of a fire*. That's as far as "social networking" on the internet will go for me. No one cares if that sandwich was awesome, **** off.

I have Twitter/MySpace/Facebook accounts only out of necessity of people** who aren't consistent enough to use an IM program or *gasp* a freakin' phone.

* The ones I wouldn't? . . . not even a house fire or anything, just a fire they're standing in because they're stupid, even if I had a fireproof suit.
**These people now belong in the "wouldn't pull out of a fire" category.

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Do what I do.

Wait for Kruunch to post topics and learn.

best way to be/stay informed.

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I never used Twitter before this game however since it was an option I find it a great place for spur of the moment IC comments from my various toons and I am personally glad that it was implemented. Now I have a twitter account for all of my toons in addition to running one for one of my nemesises and it is funny and enjoyable.

I did set up a NON in character twitter to follow anything the dev's might be saying but, for the most part it is personal observations and another place to post links that lead back to the main website. (Though..Wishy twitters in German so I have no clue what is going on there)

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I am, however, a player that thinks that Twitter's 15 minutes are almost up and would like to keep my information"in house", so to speak.

I'm older than you, but I don't think Twitter's going anywhere anytime soon. Even the talking heads on the news are using it! Next-Gen, I was told in a webinar by Homeland Security, is an "instant-instant-messenger". Instead of waiting for you to press enter before sending your message, it shows what you type as you type it.

That's right, no more self-censoring before you press enter.

They have used Twitter to good effect in the past when there were forum issues and Daeke couldn't post.

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I'm older than you, but I don't think Twitter's going anywhere anytime soon. Even the talking heads on the news are using it! Next-Gen, I was told in a webinar by Homeland Security, is an "instant-instant-messenger". Instead of waiting for you to press enter before sending your message, it shows what you type as you type it.

That's right, no more self-censoring before you press enter.

They have used Twitter to good effect in the past when there were forum issues and Daeke couldn't post.

But isn't the fact that it has become so mainstream evidence of it's pending demise?

Remember when MySpace was "just for the kids", then everybody used it in some ill fated attempt to look "modern and edgy". Social media can only be viable as long as the target userbase (ie: the young, urban people) finds it "egdy" and "modern". The second it becomes another corporation, they move onto the next fad. Evidenced by every single fad ever aimed at youth. (X-TREME *product*, grunge, peircings, etc.)

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But isn't the fact that it has become so mainstream evidence of it's pending demise?

Remember when MySpace was "just for the kids", then everybody used it in some ill fated attempt to look "modern and edgy". Social media can only be viable as long as the target userbase (ie: the young, urban people) finds it "egdy" and "modern". The second it becomes another corporation, they move onto the next fad. Evidenced by every single fad ever aimed at youth. (X-TREME *product*, grunge, peircings, etc.)

That's not always true. The fastest growing demographic (and last I heard the largest proportion of users) of facebook are "older". I started using instant messengers a very long time ago and they're still around.

One thing to consider. "Old people" outnumber young people substantially. It may start with them, but if it takes hold in the old fogey set, it has potential to be around a long time.

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dont mean to be a party pooper, but if the server goes down some times so does the website , twitter can then be used as an alternate info feed/status update.

my 2 pence

/flex

also 8bit pm me your @handle ill add you in game and try and get u in dude

Make that EVERY time.

Cryptic has tied quite a few game functions TO the Website itself as is evidenced by your "my Cryptic" page on the main board. In fact, it HAS been stated several times that when there is a server issue, it affects both the game AND the board.

With that said - there are a few Twitter widgets out that could easily add that functionality to the site itself - say a separate page that would list the Twitter messages, so that people wouldn't "have" to travel to Twitter.

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Okay, Cryptic, I'll come out and say it.

I don't follow "Twitter". In fact, I loathe Twitter. I find it to be yet another passing fad in this next generation of narcissism and instantly useless information. I find no redeemable traits in this "service" whatsoever.

With that said, I will not view your "tweets", and I shouldn't have to. All the information and updates that are supplied via Twitter should first and foremost be available on your website. There should be no reason that I should need to go to another website to get information on the game, trivial or not, when it should be here.

I understand you are trying to reach out to the youth and trying to be hip and what have you, but the same people you are trying to reach out to are the same people that embraced MySpace for the short while that was all the rage.

I'm not so involved in the game that I need whatever 140 character (I had to Google that) update you have sent to my cell phone. Hell, I hardly use that except to check the time.

What I am saying is that a weekly update thread in the forums or a "recent news" page on the main site will do just fine.

I'm not some old fogey refusing to "embrace technology" or anything. I'm only 32, ferchistsakes. I am, however, a player that thinks that Twitter's 15 minutes are almost up and would like to keep my information"in house", so to speak.

So, to summarize your point: Champions should supply their information in the manner which is the most convenient for you. Got it.

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So, to summarize your point: Champions should supply their information in the manner which is the most convenient for you. Got it.

Yes.

On THEIR WEBSITE.

I don't think it's that foreign of a concept.

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if the server goes down some times so does the website , twitter can then be used as an alternate info feed/status update.


Agreed. :)

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So, to summarize your point: Champions should supply their information in the manner which is the most convenient for you. Got it.

While 8bit may have sounded like "I don't wanna Twitter! I want updates at x! Waaah!" (not my personal interpretation, but a possible one), the point remains. This is their official website for their game. It isn't unreasonable to want updates to the game on the website, is it? Certainly there are extreme cases when this isn't possible but the amount of information they seem to actively hide from us on their website is bizarre.

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Yes.

On THEIR WEBSITE.

I don't think it's that foreign of a concept.

Twitter's not that foreign of a concept, either. Just because you don't like it, use it, or understand it, doesn't mean it's not a common and very widely used method of communication now. My suggestion is that while you're not an old foggy, yet, you better get with the times before you do become an old foggy left in the dust. Time's are a-changing!

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Yes.

On THEIR WEBSITE.

I don't think it's that foreign of a concept.

what if the websites down?

also im on twitter and im a pretty big deal dontcha know?

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While 8bit may have sounded like "I don't wanna Twitter! I want updates at x! Waaah!" (not my personal interpretation, but a possible one), the point remains. This is their official website for their game. It isn't unreasonable to want updates to the game on the website, is it? Certainly there are extreme cases when this isn't possible but the amount of information they seem to actively hide from us on their website is bizarre.

I don't think it's unreasonable to want information updates. I do think it's unreasonable to demand the updates through whatever your preferred method of news gathering is however. With RSS and news aggregators, I get the CO news from their official site's RSS feed, their Twitter, and their pseudo "fansite" "Champion Online Daily News."

PS - I'm 30 and I don't tweet, btw

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what if the websites down?

also im on twitter and im a pretty big deal dontcha know?

Obviously.

The fact that you are a big deal is the only reason I converse with you, hoping (in vain) that some of your coolness will rub off on me.

*sigh* ...to dream.

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Obviously.

The fact that you are a big deal is the only reason I converse with you, hoping (in vain) that some of your coolness will rub off on me.

*sigh* ...to dream.

hmmm sarcasm or genuine?

in my arrogance ill take it!

no wwhere my foot stool GIMP I NEED YOU!

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what if the websites down?

also im on twitter and im a pretty big deal dontcha know?

I don't think anyone is saying if the website is completely down that posting a status update there is a bad thing...

However... when has the website really been down completely? Theres always been a "We're doing maintenance" message of some kind, even when the site is down... clearly, if that's being displayed, the server is up in some form, at which point, the notice could be placed right there.

People keep arguing "twitter is the way of the future! you don't get it!"... What you aren't getting is that there's an official channel for updates, this website and forum. Why should people be forced to go to a third party, non-cryptic site to get information about the game when there's an official one?

If you want to tweet all your updates, fine, do it, but at the same time, put the update on the website too. Heck, if you're too lazy to make the update on the site too, just have aggregate the twitter feeds onto a news page so that they'll still show up.

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I don't think it's unreasonable to want information updates. I do think it's unreasonable to demand the updates through whatever your preferred method of news gathering is however. With RSS and news aggregators, I get the CO news from their official site's RSS feed, their Twitter, and their pseudo "fansite" "Champion Online Daily News."

PS - I'm 30 and I don't tweet, btw

I'm not "demanding" anything.

I'm simply stating that EVERY item they put on Twitter should also be on their official site.

Simple.

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This is almost like the folks moaning about irc on the STO boards...

most of the tweets direct you to stuff on the site - like when the new powers went up
or when servers drop Daeke has given updates on status. relax

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If you want to tweet all your updates, fine, do it, but at the same time, put the update on the website too. Heck, if you're too lazy to make the update on the site too, just have aggregate the twitter feeds onto a news page so that they'll still show up.

Isn't that what they do?

I've only looked at CO's tweets when Daeke was having problems posting and put updates there (as in the whole forum website was down).

I can see it being a valuable resource though, if used right.

Tweets that Jack just hit Jim in the back of the head with a waterbottle? Eh, not so much.

But a tweet that says "HEY! We just put up the next two powers on the Celestial set. Click here for the link" as a tweet could be valuable to people who don't have the time to consume the fora. Instead of coming every day to see if anything new is posted, they can rely on Twitter to keep them informed.

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I'm not "demanding" anything.

I'm simply stating that EVERY item they put on Twitter should also be on their official site.

Simple.

As your nemesis I must say that you are indeed very demanding.

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As your nemesis I must say that you are indeed very demanding.

Someday, I will have had enough of your badgering (see what I did there) and I will be forced to give you what for in the Arena.

You have been warned, friend.

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Someday, I will have had enough of your badgering (see what I did there) and I will be forced to give you what for in the Arena.

You have been warned, friend.

I'll have to ignore my alts and lvl up beyond lvl 16 :) You cold just beat up this poor little mamal. And I did see what you did there...

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I'll have to ignore my alts and lvl up beyond lvl 16 :) You cold just beat up this poor little mamal. And I did see what you did there...

Me too, and I am reporting you both to the ASPCA!

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Looking through the ChampsNews, ChampsOnline and Cryptic_Daeke twitter feeds, the ONLY thing I see that is news that I did not already see somewhere on the website was the update to the celestial powers page getting the advantages written in. This was posted on Daeke's twitter account. Other than that, the dozens of other posts are all on the site somewhere. Please stop venting at new technology just because you don't like it, even though you have never even experimented with it.

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Me too, and I am reporting you both to the ASPCA!

Animals are Succulent Per Cooking Awhile?

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But you don't have to from what I've seen (and i admit i mite have missed it) all the info posted on twitter has also been posted either here on the forums or on the web page.

the only stuff i can think of not being on here is when the forums/site/game were all down and there were some updates posted on Daeke



So what exactly is the problem?

The problem is, some people want to get every piece and shred of information even vaguely related to their preferred title, at one place. Even when one of the codemonkeys (<3 Sanya) rants about something on their offtime, it should be on the game's main page!

I don't use Twitter but I'm not sure you understand its power. You do kind of sound like an old fogey because you haven't taken the time to understand the technology. You may NOT be an old fogey, but you are getting your information from old fogeys, apparently.

Everyone thinks it's all about 140 character updates such as, "Lol, I think she just looked me." or "Just got my first coffee today!"

Truthfully, the power of Twitter is the global conversation. Twitter watches all the updates being posted and looks for trends. When enough people are talking about the same thing (such as protest violence, or low flying planes in Manhattan) then it becomes a "trend" and everyone logged into the site sees the updates relevant, and can participate.

There's a reason why entire nations block access to Twitter when the poo hits the fan.

I don't use it because I don't have anything important to say about my daily goings-ons, and I don't particularly feel the need to participate in a global conversation... but it's actually changing the world. I don't mean to sound over-dramatic, but it certainly is doing just that in nations without as much free speech as we've come to expect.

Regarding Twitter's 15 minutes of fame... for now the site is simple and it's not trying to be everything to everyone. MySpace made that mistake, and now Facebook is making that mistake. Twitter will remain popular for as long it remains lightweight and simple to use.



I just wanted to fill you in. I have to go now... I think a girl just looked at me and I need my first cup of coffee.

This. Besides, with how ubiquitous cell phones with keyboards (real or virtual, ala touch screen) are, it's easier for people to tweet or IM or text than it is to write up a full article with proper grammar and spelling.

Besides, old fogeyism aside, several posts in this thread illustrate how herd mentality factors in. Several people have noted that their friends don't (or only a few do) use it so they don't use it. It leads people to believe that if their friends did use it, they'd use it too. I have several friends and clients who use Facebook and Twitter religiously (or more than religiously considering how rarely some of them go to church :p) but I don't. On the flip side, my mother will be 70 in January and she has (and uses) her iPhone (and the reason she got the iPhone is because it was so difficult to text using her old RAZR), Kindle 2, iPod (my credit card is the form of payment on her iTunes account. She uses it more than I do), and so forth. Sure, she got into these things because of me (I bought all of those for her, and the CD player back in the day too) but she uses them because she likes them and the convenience they offer. She wouldn't pay $360 herself for a book reader (because $360 is still a lot of money to someone of her generation) but once she got it, OMG.

Oddly enough, there were many people who dismissed blogging as some fad. Same with Google (there were A LOT more "search engines" out there when they started and just like in this case, many people still don't know the difference between a search engine and what Google does). Heck, wasn't the internet as a whole dismissed as a fad 15 or so years ago?

There are MMO designers who give their real opinions on things outside of 'official' channels. People tend to say what they really think when they don't have to deal with the faceless corporate filter, after all.

I have roughly 50 contacts on my Pidgin and Skype combined, only about 5 of which I'd bother pulling out of a fire*. That's as far as "social networking" on the internet will go for me. No one cares if that sandwich was awesome, **** off.

I have Twitter/MySpace/Facebook accounts only out of necessity of people** who aren't consistent enough to use an IM program or *gasp* a freakin' phone.

* The ones I wouldn't? . . . not even a house fire or anything, just a fire they're standing in because they're stupid, even if I had a fireproof suit.
**These people now belong in the "wouldn't pull out of a fire" category.

I dunno about you, but if every one of my friends decided to 'ring me on the tele' whenever they had something to tell me, I'd never get any actual work done. I don't use Twitter but I've had AT&T give me a 'talking to' for my text messaging. I guess 'unlimited' doesn't actually mean what it does in the dictionary.:p

But isn't the fact that it has become so mainstream evidence of it's pending demise?

Remember when MySpace was "just for the kids", then everybody used it in some ill fated attempt to look "modern and edgy". Social media can only be viable as long as the target userbase (ie: the young, urban people) finds it "egdy" and "modern". The second it becomes another corporation, they move onto the next fad. Evidenced by every single fad ever aimed at youth. (X-TREME *product*, grunge, peircings, etc.)

Hi. Google went mainstream. Still waiting for its demise. Windows went mainstream. ETA on it failing? Hip hop went mainstream. I'd really like to know when the suburban children are going to stop trying to be 'hood'. (You grew up in freakin' Scarsdale (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scarsdale). You have no street cred.)

That's not always true. The fastest growing demographic (and last I heard the largest proportion of users) of facebook are "older". I started using instant messengers a very long time ago and they're still around.

One thing to consider. "Old people" outnumber young people substantially. It may start with them, but if it takes hold in the old fogey set, it has potential to be around a long time.

Okay, I have to admit I got a sophomoric laugh out of that last part. It's true but it's funny (the 'old people' and the 'be around a long time' thing).

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I'm only 32, ferchistsakes.

The end of the sentence really shows that 32 is old.

Also the 16-bit era was way better.

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Okay, I have to admit I got a sophomoric laugh out of that last part. It's true but it's funny (the 'old people' and the 'be around a long time' thing).

I'm officially old, I can make jokes like that, on the days I remember how.

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I despise Twitter. A communication tool that encourages a lack of communication skills is just comedy to me.

But having said that, I've no real problem with its use as an emergency source of CO information (i.e. main site is down), or to point to info on the Main site. But it should never be the primary means of communication for the game. Secondary is fine.

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Twitter is a social tool that a ton of companies use these days. It's an extremely simple way for each of us to talk about things we're working on during the day, and it takes about 2-4 seconds to write mini-updates throughout the day. If we were to stop using Twitter, it wouldn't end up with providing any more information on the website than we currently do. Twitter is a sidebar, a completely optional tool that gives you greater insight into the development process, should you choose to use it. It's possible people will find out interesting little leaks and details on Twitter before they get announced, but anything important will always be announced on our website.

The way the world works today, we take advantage of every social networking tool we can get our hands on. It's how companies work nowadays. I understand if there's an aversion to signing up for Twitter, and no one's requiring you to do so. But if you want to hear what I work on throughout the day, or maybe get a heads up about an announcement that's coming up on the site, Twitter's a very useful tool.

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Nice. totally agree with you. I consider myself a bit of an internet baby but I still hate this kind of thing.

You have your own site. Use it.

i don't wanna have to trawl the internet for information that should be here.

Agreed. I actually signed up on facebook to find old friends...which was cool. Went and had dinner with people I haven't seen in years. Then I see Twitter come out of the woodworks. It's just a facebook ripoff...making it that much worse. And you can 'tweet' into your facebook account...and probably vice versa. Who needs this crap? "Tweet?!?!" WTF?? Are we birds? I wonder what "TWIT" thought of "Twitter" LOL.

Somehow, they got celeberties to buy into this thing, then companies. Now we officially have yet another social network....exactly what the world needs right.

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Twitter is a social tool that a ton of companies use these days. It's an extremely simple way for each of us to talk about things we're working on during the day, and it takes about 2-4 seconds to write mini-updates throughout the day. If we were to stop using Twitter, it wouldn't end up with providing any more information on the website than we currently do. Twitter is a sidebar, a completely optional tool that gives you greater insight into the development process, should you choose to use it. It's possible people will find out interesting little leaks and details on Twitter before they get announced, but anything important will always be announced on our website.

The way the world works today, we take advantage of every social networking tool we can get our hands on. It's how companies work nowadays. I understand if there's an aversion to signing up for Twitter, and no one's requiring you to do so. But if you want to hear what I work on throughout the day, or maybe get a heads up about an announcement that's coming up on the site, Twitter's a very useful tool.

It takes just as long as posting the same information right here on the actual site. I think it's a travesty to post information on Twitter without posting it here, you do an injustice to the fanbase. Laziness is not an excuse.

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It takes just as long as posting the same information right here on the actual site. I think it's a travesty to post information on Twitter without posting it here, you do an injustice to the fanbase. Laziness is not an excuse.

Can anyone provide me with details on what information we've posted to Twitter that we haven't posted on the site? Well, anything relevant to the game, at least? I don't think the fact that I died in WoW last night because I held down "Shift" to block a spell is something that should be on the front page of our site :P

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Twitter wasn't made to be a social put up a bunch of pictures and play games on it and browse through someones personal info network.

The entire thing is aimed at status updates and answering one question. "What are you doing?" It's liturally only used to be like "Going to dinner at ______" or "Just spent the day with @_____".

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I agree! And what's with these kids using the Googles?! They tell me to go to the googles to find information! Damned kids and their trendy websites!

No, seriously. It's just another site. You don't even need to be a member to read the thing. Just treat it like an RSS feed and bookmark the page. Most the people I've followed are older than most the player base here, and usually it's just for the content links they put on there. At least when this page goes down there is somewhere to get info. Why create a separate server and page when there is already a simple system to put out short status updates?

Basically it sounds like if they made an exact copy of this with a different name than "Twitter" you'd be happy.
Don't get so hung up on a name. It's just another feed of information.

I also do some in-character ones for laughs, because it's easier than setting up a site for such things.

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I agree! And what's with these kids using the Googles?! They tell me to go to the googles to find information! Damned kids and their trendy websites!

No, seriously. It's just another site. You don't even need to be a member to read the thing. Just treat it like an RSS feed and bookmark the page. Most the people I've followed are older than most the player base here, and usually it's just for the content links they put on there. At least when this page goes down there is somewhere to get info. Why create a separate server and page when there is already a simple system to put out short status updates?

I also do some in-character ones for laughs, because it's easier than setting up a site for such things.

This.

There is absolutely no reason to complain about a 2nd source of (usually) useless information.

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In fact, now that I think of it, you don't even need to go there more than once:

https://twitter.com/champsonline

Look down at the bottom of the sidebar. There is an RSS link.

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Can anyone provide me with details on what information we've posted to Twitter that we haven't posted on the site? Well, anything relevant to the game, at least? I don't think the fact that I died in WoW last night because I held down "Shift" to block a spell is something that should be on the front page of our site :P

I have no idea why but reading that made me laugh hysterically. Did you seriously do that? Lawl. xD

Anyway back to the topic.

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The only Twitter I recall reading about that never ended up on the site was the one early on when the 2GB patch got released that wasn't even supposed to be since it did nothing, and the tweet said, sarcastically mind you, something along the lines of "shame on players for trying to log on to the game."

I don't think that warranted posting on the front page. :P

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Can anyone provide me with details on what information we've posted to Twitter that we haven't posted on the site? Well, anything relevant to the game, at least? I don't think the fact that I died in WoW last night because I held down "Shift" to block a spell is something that should be on the front page of our site :P

lol, cant say i havent done something dumb like this when hopping from game to game

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Can anyone provide me with details on what information we've posted to Twitter that we haven't posted on the site? Well, anything relevant to the game, at least? I don't think the fact that I died in WoW last night because I held down "Shift" to block a spell is something that should be on the front page of our site :P

Most recently, telling us about new stuff coming to the c- store. And the server crash updates that were posted there and not here. The Champions website should be one stop shopping for information about the game, not using 3rd party sites to pass along information.

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Can anyone provide me with details on what information we've posted to Twitter that we haven't posted on the site? Well, anything relevant to the game, at least? I don't think the fact that I died in WoW last night because I held down "Shift" to block a spell is something that should be on the front page of our site :P

I already have a feeling i'll like you as a dev Daeke. :D

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lol, cant say i havent done something dumb like this when hopping from game to game

I have.

Especially with keymappings that are close, but not exactly the same. When I was raiding EQ and playing CoH a lot there was some unfortunate cross-overs.

Fortunately it wasn't ever something like wiping a raid, more like "@#$%@! @#$@%! Why won't y...oohhhhh..."

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Most recently, telling us about new stuff coming to the c- store. And the server crash updates that were posted there and not here. The Champions website should be one stop shopping for information about the game, not using 3rd party sites to pass along information.

New stuff coming to the C-Store was not a new announcement. That's something we've been talking about since launch. And making an announcement on the site that says "New items are coming to the C-Store soon! I can't tell you what they are yet!" seems sort of mean rather than helpful. The second I'm allowed to post the list of new features coming to the C-Store, it'll be up on the site. Until then, I'm going to tease the heck out of it, because that's what I do.

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Until then, I'm going to tease the heck out of it, because that's what I do.

You magnificent basta --- jackanape!

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I'm not "demanding" anything.

I'm simply stating that EVERY item they put on Twitter should also be on their official site.

Simple.

I follow most of the devs on Twitter and have for a while now. In my experience the official information that gets passed down to twitter is usually a link to an article on the main page of this site. Occasionally there's a message saying something along the lines of "Heads up, about to post [whatever] to the site." and then another tweet with a link soon following.

It's just another delivery method for the same information everyone else is getting. I'm not seeing any preference given to Twitter unless of course you want to see updates about what games Daeke has been playing at home or what devs are enjoying on TV on the main site. Do you care? I enjoy that sort of stuff, so I follow. :)

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I used to hate Twitter, and refused to use it at all... until about 2 months ago. I don't input much to Twitter, but it really is a useful Newsfeed type tool for friends, companies, etc. I have TweetDeck up and running on my 2nd monitor almost all the time now, and I think it's a pretty neat concept.

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New stuff coming to the C-Store was not a new announcement. That's something we've been talking about since launch. And making an announcement on the site that says "New items are coming to the C-Store soon! I can't tell you what they are yet!" seems sort of mean rather than helpful. The second I'm allowed to post the list of new features coming to the C-Store, it'll be up on the site. Until then, I'm going to tease the heck out of it, because that's what I do.

You tease the heck out of new content all the time, or are you willing to tell us all the celestial powers right now? Or how they'll be unlocked? Or exactly how ling the event will run? Not a valid argument.

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You tease the heck out of new content all the time, or are you willing to tell us all the celestial powers right now? Or how they'll be unlocked? Or exactly how ling the event will run? Not a valid argument.

Sorry, man. Not sure what else I can tell you then. Looks like I'm fighting a losing argument. We use Twitter, because it's how the industry works. I can promise you you're not missing anything important by not participating. But if you want some quick, unconfirmed teases of upcoming content, you know where we'll be :)

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Sorry, man. Not sure what else I can tell you then. Looks like I'm fighting a losing argument. We use Twitter, because it's how the industry works. I can promise you you're not missing anything important by not participating. But if you want some quick, unconfirmed teases of upcoming content, you know where we'll be :)
More importantly, we know where you won't be.

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I think everything that I don't do is narcissistic and wrong. Everything I do is of vital importance and people should stop ragging on that stuff.


Seriously, though: get over your twitter hate. It's not evil. It's not furthering the downfall of the socialization of the species. It's not a tool to be used solely to cater to people's egos.

It's a tool. That's it. And it's a useful one, at that.

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Lies. It heralds the destruction of this world and all we hold dear. In 140 characters or less.

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Lies. It heralds the destruction of this world and all we hold dear. In 140 characters or less.

95 characters - well done! I could retweet this, and even have space for your @name!

I still don't get why age was brought up in this thread though. Does me being 43 mean I should love Twitter, or hate it?

I can never be sure.

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To the OP:
I wonder, if they put on their site a Twitter widget, then you will be happy?

P.S. Be prepared to lose some upcoming Twitter-only competitions. Already is happening with **** and CoH...

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You can tweet almost effortlessly anywhere, anytime and it meant to be informal. Updating the website, especially if you want it in a more formal presentable format takes more effort and time.

Twitter is great for teases and small updates that we will eventually see in greater detail on the site.

I can guarantee you that if what we saw on twitter was seen on the site first, you'd be first one on here to post what ac rap job they're doing on the site and to put more time and effort into it. Of course than you'd also probably complain that the site is not updated enough adn you want information now.

You can never please all of the people all of the time...

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OP just sounds butthurt and looking for a reason to complain. "I don't like clicking on a link to a page where I don't have ot register to see little useless updates that I seriously care about".

If you don't care enough to go to the page, or subscribe to it as an RSS Feed (Which you can do.) then obviously the news on it isn't as important to you as you're making it out to be.

And as for this age thing, my father uses Twitter (a lot) and so do I, and so does my grandfather, so... what?

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OP just sounds butthurt and looking for a reason to complain. "I don't like clicking on a link to a page where I don't have ot register to see little useless updates that I seriously care about".

If you don't care enough to go to the page, or subscribe to it as an RSS Feed (Which you can do.) then obviously the news on it isn't as important to you as you're making it out to be.

And as for this age thing, my father uses Twitter (a lot) and so do I, and so does my grandfather, so... what?

you mad?

twitter works fine, also im happy when 8bit finds something minimal to be angry about, otherwise he would be rampaging round the forum, well he cant at the mo but thats a diffrent topic.

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Just keep all twitter related news on twitter...

And keep all Champions Online related news here. :cool:

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I have Twitter/MySpace/Facebook accounts only out of necessity of people** who aren't consistent enough to use an IM program or *gasp* a freakin' phone.

**These people now belong in the "wouldn't pull out of a fire" category.

You are, I'm assuming, excluding people who grew up and actually left the town they were born/raised in, right?

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You are, I'm assuming, excluding people who grew up and actually left the town they were born/raised in, right?

Leave the town you were raised in! That's CRAZY! Why would you even leave your moms basement! :rolleyes:

No but really I live 3 states away from everyone and everything I've ever known.

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Leave the town you were raised in! That's CRAZY! Why would you even leave your moms basement! :rolleyes:

No but really I live 3 states away from everyone and everything I've ever known.

wow 3 whole states!

did you know as low as only 20% of americans own passports!

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wow 3 whole states!

did you know as low as only 20% of americans own passports!

Don't need to move out of country to move away from everything you've ever known, but I guess I can see how it matters how far away you move, because the point doesn't remain the same if you're 3 states away, because obviously you can still drive the 15 hour drive home at a whim and just check out what's going in on your original neighborhood and then drive back!

Oh no wait. It's the opposite of that.

Your sarcasm is noted, and forgotten. Especially since I was agreeing with you.

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sorry wires crossed a little i dont disagree with your point.

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S'all good. Lets hug, kiss and make out..

I mean make up.

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Twitter is cool in my book. I couldn't stand the myspace or facebook junk and stoically resisted them, because it's far too open and people just can't seem to resist turning their pages into something out of an epileptic's worst nightmares.

I've found Twitter quite useful without being intrusive. It is short, to the point and an easy way to see whats going on with friends, companies, favorite artists, etc at a glance.

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I'm closer with a bunch of people I only slightly knew and have made new friends on Twitter. I can keep track of how my sister's doing in the UK. I found out about the death of a family friend.

Don't you see? Twitter's ruining human social interaction!

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I'm closer with a bunch of people I only slightly knew and have made new friends on Twitter. I can keep track of how my sister's doing in the UK. I found out about the death of a family friend.

Don't you see? Twitter's ruining human social interaction!

I feel obligated to point out you could have done all those things well before Twitter. And in some cases much much better.

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Twitter is a social tool that a ton of companies use these days. It's an extremely simple way for each of us to talk about things we're working on during the day, and it takes about 2-4 seconds to write mini-updates throughout the day. If we were to stop using Twitter, it wouldn't end up with providing any more information on the website than we currently do. Twitter is a sidebar, a completely optional tool that gives you greater insight into the development process, should you choose to use it. It's possible people will find out interesting little leaks and details on Twitter before they get announced, but anything important will always be announced on our website.

The way the world works today, we take advantage of every social networking tool we can get our hands on. It's how companies work nowadays. I understand if there's an aversion to signing up for Twitter, and no one's requiring you to do so. But if you want to hear what I work on throughout the day, or maybe get a heads up about an announcement that's coming up on the site, Twitter's a very useful tool.

I use Twitter and get the tweets for CO updates. I also have events that happen in game sent to both Facebook and Twitter. I have had several people ask me what those were about and had some interest in the game. It is a pretty cool feature in my opinion.

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I feel obligated to point out you could have done all those things well before Twitter. And in some cases much much better.

True - but it can't compete with Tweets for this:

Cryptic_Daeke CCP made the greatest video I've ever seen: http://bit.ly/XppnS

WARNING - Continuous use of the F Word, may not be appropriate for children, trolls or those without a sense of humor.

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I feel obligated to point out you could have done all those things well before Twitter. And in some cases much much better.
Not with the same ease, I couldn't. This works because the amount of effort required to tweet is so minimal. If I want to keep abreast of my sister's ongoings, it's a long distance phonecall, or a bunch of emails instead of a series of quick updates throughout the day. Now multiply that by however many people you know. Still possible?

And, even if I could do all those things beforehand, so what? Is it bad to have more ways to do stuff? If we have cars, we shouldn't have motorcycles?

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Not with the same ease, I couldn't. This works because the amount of effort required to tweet is so minimal. If I want to keep abreast of my sister's ongoings, it's a long distance phonecall, or a bunch of emails instead of a series of quick updates throughout the day. Now multiply that by however many people you know. Still possible?

And, even if I could do all those things beforehand, so what? Is it bad to have more ways to do stuff? If we have cars, we shouldn't have motorcycles?

I guess we're just going to have to agree to disagree here. Tweets are only good for meaningless quick updates in my opinion. No I really don't care what all my friends are having for breakfast, or are considering for lunch. I'm pretty sure they care even less about what I'm up to. The important stuff can easilly be covered in an email, phone call (if especially urgent) or chatting online when I 'see' them.

Really even posting on this forum is a better way to get to know people than Twitter. But I'm not saying its 'bad.' Just that its not very good. ;)

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Very often, it's a case of not seeing the forest for the trees. People get caught up in the 140 letters and assume that nothing that can be said in that is "meaningless", or that everything is what people had for breakfast or whatever. You can say a lot in 140 characters, though, and if there's more, add a link to the full thing.

As to whether you care about the minor goings-on in your friends' lives or they yours, that's up to you, but you might be surprised at how little the "important" stuff in a person's life tells you about them, and how much you can learn from the seemingly mundane. After all, what percentage of your life is filled with important stuff? If you're just the aggregate of those moments, you're reduced to your resumé and a few photo albums.

It's very impressive how quickly the crap of a Twitter account can actually build up into a compelling portrait of a person, and how much like hanging out with someone it can be to read it.

But, again, it's not for everyone. If you really don't care about anything other than important stuff, then no matter what I say, you're going to see people's tweets as a waste of your time, but it's your time, so it's your call.

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Very often, it's a case of not seeing the forest for the trees. People get caught up in the 140 letters and assume that nothing that can be said in that is "meaningless", or that everything is what people had for breakfast or whatever. You can say a lot in 140 characters, though, and if there's more, add a link to the full thing.

As to whether you care about the minor goings-on in your friends' lives or they yours, that's up to you, but you might be surprised at how little the "important" stuff in a person's life tells you about them, and how much you can learn from the seemingly mundane. After all, what percentage of your life is filled with important stuff? If you're just the aggregate of those moments, you're reduced to your resumé and a few photo albums.

It's very impressive how quickly the crap of a Twitter account can actually build up into a compelling portrait of a person, and how much like hanging out with someone it can be to read it.

But, again, it's not for everyone. If you really don't care about anything other than important stuff, then no matter what I say, you're going to see people's tweets as a waste of your time, but it's your time, so it's your call.

Yep - there's a reason many major Companies are starting to use Twitter. Easy advertising, and assists in creating consumer profiling...

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Very often, it's a case of not seeing the forest for the trees. People get caught up in the 140 letters and assume that nothing that can be said in that is "meaningless", or that everything is what people had for breakfast or whatever. You can say a lot in 140 characters, though, and if there's more, add a link to the full thing.

As to whether you care about the minor goings-on in your friends' lives or they yours, that's up to you, but you might be surprised at how little the "important" stuff in a person's life tells you about them, and how much you can learn from the seemingly mundane. After all, what percentage of your life is filled with important stuff? If you're just the aggregate of those moments, you're reduced to your resumé and a few photo albums.

It's very impressive how quickly the crap of a Twitter account can actually build up into a compelling portrait of a person, and how much like hanging out with someone it can be to read it.

But, again, it's not for everyone. If you really don't care about anything other than important stuff, then no matter what I say, you're going to see people's tweets as a waste of your time, but it's your time, so it's your call.

Ironically 140 characters isn't enough to explain why Twitter might be useful. But is enough for me to poke fun at it. ;)

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I guess we're just going to have to agree to disagree here. Tweets are only good for meaningless quick updates in my opinion. No I really don't care what all my friends are having for breakfast, or are considering for lunch. I'm pretty sure they care even less about what I'm up to. The important stuff can easilly be covered in an email, phone call (if especially urgent) or chatting online when I 'see' them.

Really even posting on this forum is a better way to get to know people than Twitter. But I'm not saying its 'bad.' Just that its not very good. ;)

It's all in how you use it, some people use it for much more meaningful purpose... some not so much.

I was actually surprised reading your responses Personae, being one of the people on here who I usually find very grounded and open minded it was surprising to see such a narrow view. It is nice to know everyone has some of their own foibles though. ;)

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Ironically 140 characters isn't enough to explain why Twitter might be useful. But is enough for me to poke fun at it. ;)
Twitter: for some people, it's missing the forest for the leaves.

Hey, that was less than 140!

Does 26 letters sum up the length and breadth of Shakespeare?

<140 there, too!


So, out of curiosity: how many of the anti-Twitites actually tried it out before declaring it useless?

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Twitter: for some people, it's missing the forest for the leaves.

Hey, that was less than 140!

Does 26 letters sum up the length and breadth of Shakespeare?

<140 there, too!

Except neither line really communicated anything well. Nor did my line you quoted, which, of course, was the entirety of the joke. <not under 140

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Let's hope you will never need to communicate something using SMS then...

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It's all in how you use it, some people use it for much more meaningful purpose... some not so much.

I was actually surprised reading your responses Personae, being one of the people on here who I usually find very grounded and open minded it was surprising to see such a narrow view. It is nice to know everyone has some of their own foibles though. ;)

Actually for the record (and I'm fairly sure I said so originally on this thread) I've got no problem with Twitter being used for tiny snippets of conversation. I just have issue with it being used in lieu of more deeper sources of information.

For example, I have no problem with Daeke twittering his daily stuff between meeting and whatnot. If folks find it fun, more power to them. Hinting at stuff he can't quite announce yet seems a good use for it. But I would object if real game announcements were made there instead of the Main site.

Unless of course, its because of a site outage. Then anything goes.

But I hate it as a source of lazy journalism. For example, I was reading a printed article on Patrick Swayze passing away a few weeks back. The article talked about the huge outpouring from other celebrities about his passing. It quoted as its one example of this: Ashton Kutcher twittered 'r.i.p. Swayze.' Nothing against Ashton, but it was sad the article treated that tweet as newsworthy. :rolleyes:

But yes, I do have many many foibles. I embrace them. I sense another coming up...

Let's hope you will never need to communicate something using SMS then...

...Don't get me started. :D

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Twitter is both meaningful and meaningless, I would say. Yes, the main thrust (as parodied by Conan O'brian) is that most of it the stuff most people post is... well... as meaningful to everyone as the tweeting of a bird. Most of the time, sure, it's going to be "This is Daeke. I just superglued Tumerboy's pants to his chair! Ha ha!"

On the other hand, as a tool, as a means of communication that can work along side and independant of TV, phones, and radio, it can be meaningful. As as means of communication, I don't see why someone or some group shouldn't be able to take advantage of something cheap and easy to use no matter how short lived it may be.

In the last year or so, there were several natural disasters (a given, I know) in highly populated places. Infrastructure went down or was hit pretty heavily. However, thanks to ordinary people (as well as the government agencies) twittering important information and updating information in real time - ranging from emergancy numbers to updates on supplies to names of people someone was looking for to gathering points that were safe - well... such disasters were reduced in terms of damages. Along side the use of other tools.

Could phones have worked too (a given since they're using Twitter)? Sure. But it's not going to be possible for phones to handle all that alone - passing information one at a time in a linear fashion doesn't work when you need to talk to an entire major city. Agency X tweets important information to a few people - they in turn pass that information on to other people via phone who may in turn tweet it again who in turn may look back to Agency X - that spreads information faster as multiple agents of communication multiply.

*shrugs* It's a tool - good or bad - it's just a tool. You don't have to use it and you can hate it but I would be wary of dismissing it. It doesn't even matter if it's a fad or not - even if it disappears 7 months from now - that's irrelevant to what it's doing now.

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Nothing against Ashton, but it was sad the article treated that tweet as newsworthy. :rolleyes:

Substitute "any celebrity's opinion" in place of "that tweet" and I'm with ya.

Our celebrity worship is fairly embarassing.

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Actually for the record (and I'm fairly sure I said so originally on this thread) I've got no problem with Twitter being used for tiny snippets of conversation. I just have issue with it being used in lieu of more deeper sources of information.

For example, I have no problem with Daeke twittering his daily stuff between meeting and whatnot. If folks find it fun, more power to them. Hinting at stuff he can't quite announce yet seems a good use for it. But I would object if real game announcements were made there instead of the Main site.
Most Tweets, if they require it, link to a site for the full explanation. If there's only enough info for a 140-character tweet, is it really worth posting on the website?


Unless of course, its because of a site outage. Then anything goes.

But I hate it as a source of lazy journalism. For example, I was reading a printed article on Patrick Swayze passing away a few weeks back. The article talked about the huge outpouring from other celebrities about his passing. It quoted as its one example of this: Ashton Kutcher twittered 'r.i.p. Swayze.' Nothing against Ashton, but it was sad the article treated that tweet as newsworthy. :rolleyes:
I don't blame lazy journalism on Twitter. I blame it on ****** journalists. And the 24-hour news cycle.