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09-08-2009, 10:40 PM
just showing how ice is in bash ^^

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLD6eEYD6K4&fmt=22

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09-09-2009, 01:23 AM
Impressive damage, when I told you ice is just as effective as my build, and now I see you also have force block, which is clearly not a ice skill :) didnt you tell me that you specced full ice ? :) anyways I must say I am impressed by the damage a ice charecter puts out there, and id say it seems about as effective as mines atleast combined with the laser sword skill, or atleast it will be once the damage is toned down.

Good job, but please be less of a hypocrite ? getting bored with your little hate tells :p

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09-09-2009, 01:30 AM
nice vid , which hero game is that ?

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09-09-2009, 01:38 AM
Its Westside B.A.S.H

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09-09-2009, 03:16 AM
Impressive damage, when I told you ice is just as effective as my build, and now I see you also have force block, which is clearly not a ice skill :) didnt you tell me that you specced full ice ? :) anyways I must say I am impressed by the damage a ice charecter puts out there, and id say it seems about as effective as mines atleast combined with the laser sword skill, or atleast it will be once the damage is toned down.

Good job, but please be less of a hypocrite ? getting bored with your little hate tells :p

i have to use 3 abilities to do that burst damage, and the max dmg of those 3 abilities combined does less combined damage than a single cast of minimines.

highest i can do is about 700. whereas minimines, which has a 5 second cooldown, can easily hit for 1000+ with wall of fire

which is why it's lame :p

and i've pretty much run out of decent ice skills to pick, so i'm not full ice anymore

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09-09-2009, 03:53 AM
Most of those looked like horrible players IMO, hardly anyone even blocked against you plus most of them seemed to be running offensive passives without much in the way of defenses to compensate lol. I agree we're a bit OP in BASH with it being so open but you'll find that things soon change once you're in the last tier. People are much harder to kill in Apokalypse and (for the most part) are better players by that point.

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09-09-2009, 04:02 AM
yeah, im not impressed at all, you are fighting ******** people, ice dmg is ok considering you need to be really close to get its full potential, anyway good job on killing those inexperienced player.


Your build seem to be a good ice build, keep in mind force shield will become mostly an energy builder after the next patch, it is still a good block.

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09-09-2009, 11:49 AM
Most of those looked like horrible players IMO, hardly anyone even blocked against you plus most of them seemed to be running offensive passives without much in the way of defenses to compensate lol. I agree we're a bit OP in BASH with it being so open but you'll find that things soon change once you're in the last tier. People are much harder to kill in Apokalypse and (for the most part) are better players by that point.

well i took the crippling challenge advantage for my laser sword, so they shouldnt be able to block anyway :p

but yeh, non of em had much defense. but then again, i have no defenses either - i havn't picked up any heals or hold breaker yet, and i use ice form for the damage boost.

would you suggest i use a defensive passive instead of ice form ?

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09-09-2009, 12:05 PM
Regardless on other people's take on "skill" of the other players. The video was pretty neat for me and showed a nice little combination I hadn't thought of and probably wouldn't have tried (hint of melee mixed into ice).

As to the defensive passive question, if you have room in your build, why not take both and you can switch them between builds if you're running into folks clashing through your ice form? If nothing else, if people are used to seeing you a bit squishier in ice form, could be a nice surprise for them.

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09-09-2009, 12:06 PM
This game has PvP?

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09-09-2009, 12:51 PM
Regardless on other people's take on "skill" of the other players. The video was pretty neat for me and showed a nice little combination I hadn't thought of and probably wouldn't have tried (hint of melee mixed into ice).

As to the defensive passive question, if you have room in your build, why not take both and you can switch them between builds if you're running into folks clashing through your ice form? If nothing else, if people are used to seeing you a bit squishier in ice form, could be a nice surprise for them.

well im not sure if i should replace ice form, since it gives me about 50% more damage with my ice spells

unless regen scales with CON? since im con/end that might work well?

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09-09-2009, 12:57 PM
You seem to have a some pretty Severe and common crits considering ur main stats.
And after patch regen will scale with recovery unless I missread something.

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09-09-2009, 01:01 PM
would you suggest i use a defensive passive instead of ice form ?
That would be an insult to how ice is meant to be lol. I wouldn't swap ice form for anything else in the game.

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09-09-2009, 01:09 PM
Good video, course all I cared about seeing was Raziel in it. He was like my player nemesis last night.

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09-09-2009, 02:21 PM
You seem to have a some pretty Severe and common crits considering ur main stats.
And after patch regen will scale with recovery unless I missread something.

crit is easy to get though :P

i got like 23% crit just from a few +dex items

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09-09-2009, 02:22 PM
would you suggest i use a defensive passive instead of ice form ?


No. Pick up a few clicky defenses to get a little tougher. Maybe some CON gear to add some HP.

If anything I'd say get used to running in avenger with clickys on cooldowns (add nanobots +advantage) and start lumping on the damage buffs and stealth powers. You'll damn sure be a glass cannon but you'll get used to it.

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09-10-2009, 12:03 AM
nanobots give hp?

also i got plenty of HP atm, my superstats are con/end :D

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09-10-2009, 12:19 AM
which skill is it? (key 6) to the right of the sword

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09-10-2009, 12:21 AM
Well I thought it looked fun. Any advice for someone who wants to only do arena from 12-21 using ice?

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09-10-2009, 01:30 AM
nanobots give hp?

also i got plenty of HP atm, my superstats are con/end :D

When advantaged they do.

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09-10-2009, 01:31 AM
which skill is it? (key 6) to the right of the sword
Ice Burst

Well I thought it looked fun. Any advice for someone who wants to only do arena from 12-21 using ice?
just use wall of ice with frozen footsteps advantage then stand next to someone xD crazy damage

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09-10-2009, 01:31 AM
Ignore, already answered

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09-10-2009, 09:16 AM
Wow. Most of those players sucked. >.>

However, you were a brilliant player. You concentrated fire on one person, didn't switch targets, and even though you had teleport, when you got low, you went around a corner THEN teleported away. Otherwise you stood your ground. I'd love to fight you in a PvP match. :D

Ice looks vicious. Looks like some nice burst damage with slows to keep them in range.

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09-10-2009, 02:14 PM
yeh, ice can put out some vicious dps. i can't wait to rank up some of my dps abilities (they all rank 1 atm) and get rank2/3 ice form :D

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09-10-2009, 02:33 PM
nanobots give hp?

also i got plenty of HP atm, my superstats are con/end :D

yes with the advantage

and not in Avenger you won't. CON is still a nice way to go for that BUT does ice form's damage scale off of those or scale at all...I only know Ice's sister Fire Form and it scales off of PRE of all things.

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09-10-2009, 02:47 PM
ice is broken, i dont see how anyone can say this is a good video if and when chill is broken beyond all hell.
meleers dont stand a chance, and unles someone has teleport, they cant run from you due to broken chillness

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09-10-2009, 03:00 PM
yes with the advantage

and not in Avenger you won't. CON is still a nice way to go for that BUT does ice form's damage scale off of those or scale at all...I only know Ice's sister Fire Form and it scales off of PRE of all things.

Ice form scales from End.

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09-11-2009, 07:42 AM
ice is broken, i dont see how anyone can say this is a good video if and when chill is broken beyond all hell.
meleers dont stand a chance, and unles someone has teleport, they cant run from you due to broken chillness

Exactly this, I have a TK blades guy and once I get chilled its all over, even if I had lunging kick etc, cause most ice users have fly/teleport. Nothing effects chill, it doesnt give an immunity timer, and lasts for a ridiculously long time. My hold on kinetic darts is like 2 seconds, causes a hold immunity and basically wrecks my ego hold at times (which is why I will go telepathy for my energy builder plus I like the -% ego debuff).

Ice needs some immunity timers, though by your skill I think you will be just fine, though some less skilled players will be hurt by not getting the iwin button.

Man Chill is supra gay, seriously.

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09-11-2009, 09:35 AM
Exactly this, I have a TK blades guy

Chill isn't the problem, it's the fact that you have a TK blades guy. As someone who has PvPed with a level TK blade character, I'm able to tell you that TK and melee in general without the appropriate abilities aren't great in PvP, be it against Ice characters or characters with knockback moves.