Melee doomed in pvp?

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I made an ego blade character, while my mate made a Munitions. Ok i know we were both only level 6 but he flat out butchered me :(, is this what is to be expected later from melee Vs the large amount of ranged powersets?
Sorry if this is posted already, but im too friggin tired to scan through all threads + im still at work :(

Ta

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Pretty much. Melee sucks in general due to having to keep people in range. Between travelpowers, knockbacks and roots.. it's pretty hard to do that. Meanwhile, the rest of us snipe you from above.

You'll need to have a ranged energy builder, which you probably don't have, and you'll need some holds or roots of your own.
You'll also need one of the travelpower disabling attacks.

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Ranged energy builder, Core melee, then branch off to get the roots and other CCs. pick up ice sheath for the chill. That always comes in handy.

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Ah nice i didnt see that Ice Sheith, looks good :P
Cheers

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Holds are really powerful. I'd say too powerful (stacking every single anti-hold item and breakfree ability I still get held constantly). So you hold people, run up and slasherize them. Is it as easy as ranged? No. But it can still be pretty effective.

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Melee needs charge attack early on. Its hard closing the gap on ranged type. I have a toon right now that has melee energy builder and fire core. It sucks for PVP. Fire isnt to damaging at early levels (fire breath is underpowered) and after I run out of energy its difficult to melee any one because there is no way to close the gap.

I agree with Aeyn if you want to melee have it as your core and have a ranged energy builder it works alot better.

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The only thing I regret about my melee guy is getting a melee end builder. Other than that, melee works just fine in pvp and pve in my opinion =/

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I beat the crap out of people in PvP with my melee character.
He may be a magic swordsman, but I main melee attacks.

You just need to get used to being able to hit people...which isn't hard after a while.

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You will cry once you fight people with Force Eruption, since they can use it while held. You won't get in any good damage against held targets because Force Eruption will simply KB (or repel) you once you get close. It's stupid and it makes playing as a melee character pointless.

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Melee is rough early on against ranged because you have no way of keeping them in range, but even later the damage comparison is pretty ugly. Melee is supposed to do more damage than ranged to compensate for having to spend time chasing people down and keeping them pinned, but from what I've heard Might and Ego Blades are roughly on par with ranged, and from my own experience Martial Arts are just... ew...
I do decent in PvE, but when I go into PvP against people with self heals and/or passive defenses, I may as well be trying to tickle them to death. Thundering Kicks do nothing, sometimes literally, and even a fully charged Dragon Kick takes only about 1/15 of their health on average.

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You will cry once you fight people with Force Eruption, since they can use it while held. You won't get in any good damage against held targets because Force Eruption will simply KB (or repel) you once you get close. It's stupid and it makes playing as a melee character pointless.

Most melee guys will have high strength. Whle this alone wont keep you from being kb'd away from a fully charged force eruption, if you put on a piece of kb resist gear (very cheap and easy to make), Force eruption starts having an almost negligable effect. I just feel bad that you can only start using such pieces of gear at level 26

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Pvp in this game is rather pointless and grossly unbalanced at the moment. It's apparent Cryptic didn't even make attempts to fix any of this in beta, or they need to hire an entirely new team of people if they did.

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I prefer melee because it takes some work to be effective but when you are ready for the situations you own.

First off, get the Throwing Shuriken skill from the martial skills. Get the upgrade Chained Kunai. Now you have a ranged Get Over Here knockdown.

Next make sure you have some kind of snare, stun, or knockdown. A good bleed also works.

Get a defensive and block skill.

Finally have an alpha attack, something that just punches a whole through a mountain.

I build damage and as much health as I can cram onto my chars.

It's easier to be effective with ranged but everyone is expecting it so when you yank em over and cut them in half people are caught off guard most of the time. The main thing I can offer to you is to get tunnel vision. Once you lock onto a target, don't shift off, chase that sucker down through teleports, around the cage etc. It's a good time.

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I prefer melee because it takes some work to be effective but when you are ready for the situations you own.

First off, get the Throwing Shuriken skill from the martial skills. Get the upgrade Chained Kunai. Now you have a ranged Get Over Here knockdown.

Next make sure you have some kind of snare, stun, or knockdown. A good bleed also works.

Get a defensive and block skill.

Finally have an alpha attack, something that just punches a whole through a mountain.

I build damage and as much health as I can cram onto my chars.

It's easier to be effective with ranged but everyone is expecting it so when you yank em over and cut them in half people are caught off guard most of the time. The main thing I can offer to you is to get tunnel vision. Once you lock onto a target, don't shift off, chase that sucker down through teleports, around the cage etc. It's a good time.

I agree 100%. my favorite combo is thunderbolt lunge into entangling web (gadgeteering). High strength and two pieces of +50% kb resist gear make force eruption not much of a problem.

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I actually had someone call my melee character overpowered last night (31+ bracket)
Basically blamed me for all the games problems too because I grabbed skills from various powersets. It was pretty cute actually.

im not even using the more popular skills like ice, pyre, mines, shotgun, bow stuns, etc.
I even have a melee energy builder.
I do have teleport though :)

ill have to try that web grenade.

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You will cry once you fight people with Force Eruption, since they can use it while held. You won't get in any good damage against held targets because Force Eruption will simply KB (or repel) you once you get close. It's stupid and it makes playing as a melee character pointless.

Then get knockback resistance?

Melee is pretty powerful right now if given some opportunity.. if it was much easier on them then they would easily be OP.

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Pretty much. Melee sucks in general due to having to keep people in range.

True, which begs the question: "How did the people who made such a travesty of Melee combat over five years ago in CoH manage to repeat THE EXACT SAME PROBLEM in Champions Online"?

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I actually had someone call my melee character overpowered last night (31+ bracket)
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Oh, well, that CERTAINLY invalidates the personal experiences of every other player in the game. Some random person called you "overpowered". Yup, thanks for sharing.

Holy smokes, why do people like you EVEN BOTHER TO POST? Do you really think we're all sitting around in awe of your awesome manliness, because "some random person that doesn't know what the hell they're talking about may or may not have said something stupid to you"?

You can't move while Melee attacking. You can't win against a Ranged class. Knockback can easily make it so a Melee character can't attack AT ALL. But hey, THANK YOU SO MUCH, you WORLD-CLASS GENIUS, for trivializing what is probably one of the biggest problems with the game at the moment by relating your imaginary story about someone telling you that you're "overpowered."

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You can't move while Melee attacking.
wut

You can't win against a Ranged class.
lolwut

Knockback can easily make it so a Melee character can't attack AT ALL.
wut

But hey, THANK YOU SO MUCH, you WORLD-CLASS GENIUS, for trivializing what is probably one of the biggest problems with the game at the moment by relating your imaginary story about someone telling you that you're "overpowered."
You're the epitome of stupid.

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Oh, well, that CERTAINLY invalidates the personal experiences of every other player in the game. Some random person called you "overpowered". Yup, thanks for sharing.

Holy smokes, why do people like you EVEN BOTHER TO POST? Do you really think we're all sitting around in awe of your awesome manliness, because "some random person that doesn't know what the hell they're talking about may or may not have said something stupid to you"?

You can't move while Melee attacking. You can't win against a Ranged class. Knockback can easily make it so a Melee character can't attack AT ALL. But hey, THANK YOU SO MUCH, you WORLD-CLASS GENIUS, for trivializing what is probably one of the biggest problems with the game at the moment by relating your imaginary story about someone telling you that you're "overpowered."

you're pretty awesome guy. You do realize I was joking about the 1 person calling me overpowered? I thought the "cute" reference would of given it away. Maybe next time ill attach an idiot tag for people like you that specifically says "THE FOLLOWING LINES WILL CONTAIN SARCASM"

See like you calling me a world class genius... that was sarcasm right? See how I picked up on that? You didn't even leave the idiot tag for me.
SPEAKING OF IRONY. I don't know who the real "world class genius" is. The person who is trying ot play melee without stuns, roots, or snares and attempting to use 7ft range CHARGE moves which root you... or the person who is actually successfully playing a melee.
or the person who is complaining about knockbakcs without bothering to use knockback resistance. DURP DE DO.

Im sorry, I don't have your problems. Maybe you're problems are just yours?
Im not saying melee is perfect, but I somehow managed to find a way to connect my hits. I know... it must of been god that is doing it for me because OBVIOUSLY the game mechanics just do not exist to allow melee to hit people.
BTW the god reference was SARCASM in case you didn't catch that.

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I made an ego blade character, while my mate made a Munitions. Ok i know we were both only level 6 but he flat out butchered me :(, is this what is to be expected later from melee Vs the large amount of ranged powersets?
Sorry if this is posted already, but im too friggin tired to scan through all threads + im still at work :(

Ta

MEE IZ MAYLAY ANNA GUT UH 52/12/-1 REKORD INNA PEE-VEE-PEAZ.

(mee nut noze wut da neguhtiv wun iz fer)

*scratches head*

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wut


lolwut


wut


You're the epitome of stupid.

But he can spell and form sentences.