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09-03-2009, 08:39 PM
Champions Online is being brought down for emergency maintenance at 1AM PST. We are expecting this downtime to last no more than 2 hours. Please keep an eye on this thread for more details, and to be advised when the servers are back up!

Thank you,
The Champions Online Team

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09-03-2009, 08:40 PM
Is the new guy working tonight?

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09-03-2009, 08:44 PM
ROFLMAO!!!! :D
I think a better question is: Is the new guy working at all???
I know a mistake like that when I was a System Admin would have cost me my job!!

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09-03-2009, 08:52 PM
I hope the problem will be resolved once and for all.... Thank you for your efforts.:)

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09-03-2009, 09:00 PM
don't sack the new guy! give him a level 1 toon, lock its XP, and make him sit in pvp for a week! that should make people happy =)

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09-03-2009, 09:26 PM
I wonder what could possibly need to be adjusted now. Oh well, I'll be in bed when it's taking place anyways.

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09-03-2009, 09:31 PM
It's during my main playtime... as usual the server gets brought during my MAIN PLAYTIME... this is getting real annoying and was my main worry buying this game. They have seemed to lock in there server down time at my playtime so I may have to back off this game I cant even freaking play. Bring it down during someone else playtime.. ..

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09-03-2009, 09:36 PM
It's during my main playtime... as usual the server gets brought during my MAIN PLAYTIME...

Mine too, but we're in the minority. They bring it down when the fewest players are on.

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09-03-2009, 09:37 PM
It's during my main playtime... as usual the server gets brought during my MAIN PLAYTIME... this is getting real annoying and was my main worry buying this game. They have seemed to lock in there server down time at my playtime so I may have to back off this game I cant even freaking play. Bring it down during someone else playtime.. ..

It'll stop happening so frequently when they get everything meshed out and working properly.

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09-03-2009, 09:47 PM
The Homepage says "Server: UP"... are they down or up?

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09-03-2009, 09:47 PM
It'll stop happening so frequently when they get everything meshed out and working properly.

With all due respect, it would have been real nice if it could've been ensured things were working properly before they released the game and made us all pay for it. I bought the game several days ago and between the framerate issues and server downtime I haven't been able to play since.

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09-03-2009, 09:54 PM
Mine too, but we're in the minority. They bring it down when the fewest players are on.

Understood but thats no excuse though, many MMO's change there maintenance time here & there so there not always going down on the same peoples playtime... I mean people that play during the day dont get to miss a day.. I cant play for days a time & I paid $50 and its getting really annoying u know? I understand it will happen less & less but come on i cant get past lv15 with all this downtime ON MY PLAYTIME. EQ used to come down for 5 minutes...upload the patch and bring servers back up, wtf are they doing for 2hrs on opening month to make a good impression...

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09-03-2009, 09:54 PM
It's during my main playtime... as usual the server gets brought during my MAIN PLAYTIME... this is getting real annoying and was my main worry buying this game. They have seemed to lock in there server down time at my playtime so I may have to back off this game I cant even freaking play. Bring it down during someone else playtime.. ..

Wow, I don't think i have heard anything as egotistical as this... People like you are one of the reasons i left WoW.

This is an -emergency maintenance-, it won't happen alot after the game and servers are fully up to speed.

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09-03-2009, 09:57 PM
How many emergencies is CO having? It's getting a bit boy-who-cried-wolf here. Hey maybe that's what all those werewolves are doing in Blood Moon :eek:

Sly, cryptic. Sly.

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09-03-2009, 09:58 PM
Wow, I don't think i have heard anything as egotistical as this... People like you are one of the reasons i left WoW.

This is an -emergency maintenance-, it won't happen alot after the game and servers are fully up to speed.

Um its the SAME time almost EVERY night, there is nothing emergency or NOT forseen about this maintenance

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09-03-2009, 10:03 PM
With all due respect, it would have been real nice if it could've been ensured things were working properly before they released the game and made us all pay for it. I bought the game several days ago and between the framerate issues and server downtime I haven't been able to play since.

the day someone writes a decent 3d game with multiplayer that is 100% bug free is the day the world will implode. you realise that don't you??

there's hundreds of thousands of lines of code in these things, not ALL of it written by the company who's name is on the box and it ALL has to work together. be thankful the devs are visibly (and communicatively! (unlike a certain cowboy shooter game that came out in June)) working on fixes for the issues that crop up.

MMOs are particularly bad for bugs, since they can't possibly do enough major load testing prior to release. If you're buying MMOs expecting flawless performance on all fronts, you're deluding yourself hugely.

Um its the SAME time almost EVERY night, there is nothing emergency or NOT forseen about this maintenance

unless, you know, they hadn't fixed what they thought they had in the last maint downtime or something else came to light...

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09-03-2009, 10:04 PM
Um its the SAME time almost EVERY night, there is nothing emergency or NOT forseen about this maintenance

If a MONTH had PASSED i could understand, but it has been LESS than a WEEK.

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09-03-2009, 10:07 PM
the day someone writes a decent 3d game with multiplayer that is 100% bug free is the day the world will implode. you realise that don't you??

there's hundreds of thousands of lines of code in these things, not ALL of it written by the company who's name is on the box and it ALL has to work together. be thankful the devs are visibly (and communicatively! (unlike a certain cowboy shooter game that came out in June)) working on fixes for the issues that crop up.

MMOs are particularly bad for bugs, since they can't possibly do enough major load testing prior to release. If you're buying MMOs expecting flawless performance on all fronts, you're deluding yourself hugely.

Oh thank god, yes. The last game I was playing for about 3 years was down to about 200-300 players total due to Sega(Sonic Team primarily), not saying a word about anything. Something would go down, or we wouldn't get any updates for a large gap of time, and they'd just leave us hanging. They had good reasons, as revealed in the end, and are now updating it regularly, but it'd have alot more of a population if they just said what was going on in the beginning.
/end rant.

But yeah, thank god for that.

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09-03-2009, 10:11 PM
the day someone writes a decent 3d game with multiplayer that is 100% bug free is the day the world will implode. you realise that don't you??

there's hundreds of thousands of lines of code in these things, not ALL of it written by the company who's name is on the box and it ALL has to work together. be thankful the devs are visibly (and communicatively! (unlike a certain cowboy shooter game that came out in June)) working on fixes for the issues that crop up.

MMOs are particularly bad for bugs, since they can't possibly do enough major load testing prior to release. If you're buying MMOs expecting flawless performance on all fronts, you're deluding yourself hugely.

One of the best posts i have see so far, just pure gold!

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09-03-2009, 10:12 PM
Cryptic's communication about issues (especially stuff as chuckle-worthy as the network newbie server-death-kill) has been awesome IMO :)

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09-03-2009, 10:14 PM
CoH had daily server takedowns too in the beginning. After a couple of months it dropped to weekly takedowns and a year after release taketowns became rare.

I expect something similar here.

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09-03-2009, 10:15 PM
ok

i understand u guys took a whole day to fix stuff

now u guys are fixing it at night

might i know WHAT is the problem now ?? any patches some thing ?

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09-03-2009, 10:17 PM
Cryptic's communication about issues (especially stuff as chuckle-worthy as the network newbie server-death-kill) has been awesome IMO :)

Ya they have been good about that & i'm not expecting a bug free game, not sure why that person said that. They have clearly not played any MMO's. but they could switch up the time they upload a new patch though... or just not take 2hrs to upload 70meg...

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09-03-2009, 10:23 PM
CoH had daily server takedowns too in the beginning. After a couple of months it dropped to weekly takedowns and a year after release taketowns became rare.

I expect something similar here.

If this is going to come down daily for a couple months..that is totaly not playable for me. I wouldn't beable to play for months, lol.

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09-03-2009, 10:23 PM
Ya they have been good about that & i'm not expecting a bug free game, not sure why that person said that. They have clearly not played any MMO's. but they could switch up the time they upload a new patch though... or just not take 2hrs to upload 70meg...
Just because the client "only" needed to download a 70meg patch doesn't mean they didn't have to do lots of other changes on the server .. For one I'm thankful that they are fixing issues and rolling out updates as quickly as they do. Even if it does mean a slight loss of play time here at the start of it all.

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09-03-2009, 10:24 PM
i agree, i'd *love* it if the maint times could be staggered - playing from Australia we get the short end of the maint stick with almost every MMO - on top of the massive ping times to US servers etc (worse for me because i already get huge pings even to servers based here >< ).

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09-03-2009, 10:26 PM
If this is going to come down daily for a couple months..that is totaly not playable for me. I wouldn't beable to play for months, lol.

I do feel for you though. I used to work night shift, so on those days off when I'd be up all night, I'd like to play my MMO. Since I wasn't on a set schedule and those days off would shift every week, the day my night off fell on a maintenance night, it was deflating to say the least. And those maintenances would last for 4-5 hours. Not fun.

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09-03-2009, 10:27 PM
Um its the SAME time almost EVERY night, there is nothing emergency or NOT forseen about this maintenanceActually, it can be argued that they leave the game as-is during prime time to allow everyone to play. But the code still needs heavier work than was expected, so even though it's still happening nightly, it's officially an Unscheduled maintenance (figure Cryptic wants to keep it ideally to once a week, but it's just not able to happen atm), escalating it to "Emergency" status.

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09-03-2009, 11:18 PM
I wonder what could possibly need to be adjusted now. Oh well, I'll be in bed when it's taking place anyways.

hopefully all the headstart respecs, I'd like to play earlier than a week or two from now if possible without needing to rely on groups for solo missions, yes it's my fault for not better researching, but they DID say they were doing it.

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09-03-2009, 11:44 PM
Cryptic, are you sure this game should be called Champions "Online" right now? :)

But thanks for the extra day of game time.

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09-03-2009, 11:46 PM
It's during my main playtime... as usual the server gets brought during my MAIN PLAYTIME... this is getting real annoying and was my main worry buying this game. They have seemed to lock in there server down time at my playtime so I may have to back off this game I cant even freaking play. Bring it down during someone else playtime.. ..

My main concern was that the forums would be full of the same dead horses being beaten. Guess we're both out of luck.

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09-04-2009, 12:01 AM
Just got in long enough to start a new concept toon, and just before The Champions HQ, down for maybe two hours. *looks around the data center for the new guy*

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09-04-2009, 12:01 AM
Cryptic, are you sure this game should be called Champions "Online" right now? :)

But thanks for the extra day of game time.

LOL THANKS FOR THE EXTRA DAY!?!?!? They dropped the ball, they should be saying "Thank you for not cancelling your subscription." Not you, no thanks is deserved.

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09-04-2009, 12:02 AM
Yikes, Glad I don't work for Cryptic. In at work for 9AM, and not left for home yet (Midnight). Mind you, I bet the local Pizza Delivery Store is doing VERY well out of it!!!!!!!

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09-04-2009, 12:02 AM
It's during my main playtime... as usual the server gets brought during my MAIN PLAYTIME... this is getting real annoying and was my main worry buying this game. They have seemed to lock in there server down time at my playtime so I may have to back off this game I cant even freaking play. Bring it down during someone else playtime.. ..

I think you should reconsider such selfish remarks, especially during the first few weeks of the game.

Use the time to generate more clever and engaging character ideas!

Peace be with you,
Eodatam :D:D:D

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09-04-2009, 12:03 AM
... again?

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09-04-2009, 12:03 AM
Is the new guy working tonight?

I LOL'd and to fulfill the ten character requirement, I LOL'd again.

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09-04-2009, 12:04 AM
We are expecting this downtime to last no more than 2 hours

I'll believe it when I see it...

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09-04-2009, 12:04 AM
Jesus ti**yf*cking christ just because you can't fap to your female toon in spandex for two hours.

I hope you catch seven kinds of aids and your mother takes your router away so you have to go meet girls.

so you're actually hoping he gives AIDS to some girls? you are a sick, sick puppy

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09-04-2009, 12:05 AM
I don't even care about the down time. I had such a fun time tonight that I will dream about this game.

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09-04-2009, 12:06 AM
Um its the SAME time almost EVERY night, there is nothing emergency or NOT forseen about this maintenance

Welcome to playing an MMO at launch. This must be your first time?

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09-04-2009, 12:06 AM
You guys have got to be kidding... Down for half the friggin' day, and then let's take it down again at night? This is just silly... No, I'm not going to tromp around and say I'm cancelling/quitting/etc., let's face it I'm not going to (at least, not now, but if this becomes a trend, that will change), but this is getting stupid.

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09-04-2009, 12:07 AM
Lol you guys should try playing Eve Online. They have server maintenance everyday for a minimum of an hour. Granted its based in Iceland so their maint. happens at 5am my time. Oddly enough that still interrupts my playtime on occasion...:p

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09-04-2009, 12:08 AM
Keep up the good work guys and thanks for fixing what needs fixing.

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09-04-2009, 12:08 AM
Aww I was just about done creating a new character hehe :p

I'm ok with it.. This is the first MMO I have joined at launch, and I'm actually quite happy to be part of the whole "Fixing/Patching" era.. Watching it get better and better with each patch and all.

To those annoyed, they DID give us an extra free day added to our subscriptions.. no worries :)

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09-04-2009, 12:09 AM
Jesus ti**yf*cking christ just because you can't fap to your female toon in spandex for two hours.

I hope you catch seven kinds of aids and your mother takes your router away so you have to go meet girls.

maybe a bit extreme, consult your doctor, they have great drugs for stress nowdays :p

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09-04-2009, 12:09 AM
i like how its an emergency every night and they bring the servers down @ 1am PST.

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09-04-2009, 12:10 AM
Down for half the day and down again, sucks takeing a day off work to play when your not able to get into the game. Lets hope the get the bugs worked out before long, I hate paying for something I can't use.:mad:

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09-04-2009, 12:12 AM
Heh, i was writing a short "Story" on my Hero, last thing to do before clicking "Play Now".. Then i got disconnected.. And forgot to save while working on it...

*Mental note to self* Save frequently while customizing....

Great game tho, but i hope they fix this silly problem quickly - or atleast make the Hero Creater useable when server is offline... I reckon that would be a clever thing to do.. Go Cryptic GO! :D

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09-04-2009, 12:12 AM
I just want to know with the game having been down for like 6 hours yesterday, why is another maintenance needed?

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09-04-2009, 12:13 AM
I think you should reconsider such selfish remarks, especially during the first few weeks of the game.

Use the time to generate more clever and engaging character ideas!

Peace be with you,
Eodatam :D:D:D

you're the first anti flame that I'm going to support for the moment, that was pretty dumb wording he used about "his" this and "his" that

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09-04-2009, 12:13 AM
I just want to know with the game having been down for like 6 hours yesterday, why is another maintenance needed?

... becuase it was down for 6 hours?

sorry , had to do it.

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09-04-2009, 12:13 AM
Good to see a little bit (key being little) less whinging going on.
EverborN, are you Australian? Or just a late night yank. Either way, you'd be use to this downtime times, because its like that in EVERY OTHER MMO.

Cryptic came through on the respec issue, came through with free playtime...I think we need to start giving them the benefit of the doubt, rather than "LOLZ U GUYZ DONT CARE BOUT US PAYIN CUZTOMERS IMA QUIT SCREW YOU LOLOL".

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09-04-2009, 12:14 AM
Down for half the day and down again, sucks takeing a day off work to play when your not able to get into the game. Lets hope the get the bugs worked out before long, I hate paying for something I can't use.:mad:

They actually gave us an extra free day for the down time yesterday, so if this will take all day - they might do the same..

But i agree, i took the day off aswell... And it's freakin' friday over here!! :)

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09-04-2009, 12:15 AM
all I have to say about the whining is age of conan, game was like swiss cheese it was so full of holes when it released and people still bared through that, I don't like to go down this road but some of the people cussing their brains out, not just the people doing it over the game going down again, need to give it a rest and stop trying to start fights because you're angry/bored.

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09-04-2009, 12:15 AM
Well, hey. It's only two hours, and I managed to get my character to the level I was during Open Beta in one evening. Even if it doesn't go up in two hours, I've had a pretty productive day.

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09-04-2009, 12:16 AM
Hope you guys fix the freakin lag and rubberbanding once and for all... at least some of you guys had a chance to play someof the game :)

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09-04-2009, 12:16 AM
They should decide they are having daily downtimes just like in COH. That way they dont have to call every downtime an 'emergency downtime'.

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09-04-2009, 12:16 AM
They actually gave us an extra free day for the down time yesterday, so if this will take all day - they might do the same..

But i agree, i took the day off aswell... And it's freakin' friday over here!! :)

Not that I am clamoring for rewards or anything - I have always found that to be silly - but giving away 'extra' days is kind of lame.

At least in the view of the ones with life time subs.

Hey! I get life +1!

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09-04-2009, 12:16 AM
I just want to know with the game having been down for like 6 hours yesterday, why is another maintenance needed?

Probably the "new" guy forgot to push another buttom :D

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09-04-2009, 12:18 AM
o well, time to continue leveling my pony in my other mmo
http://www.ponystars.com/

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09-04-2009, 12:19 AM
I understand why this might bug people with the whole servers up and down thing happening but keep this in mind!

If they didnt take it down then this is what would happen.

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/LJ9wKun1hFe3ji9t2B0DiQ?feat=directlink

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/AmlwOTnXE5cbpIuW_5S3AQ?feat=directlink

I logged in at 1:01am(PST) and killed the main Qularr leader outside the Champions HQ in the tutorial and turned and when inside the door and that happened.

So you might not get to play but its better than playing and not being frozen in the beyond land lol

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09-04-2009, 12:19 AM
I just want to know with the game having been down for like 6 hours yesterday, why is another maintenance needed?

most likely to do the work that got screwed up when they had to spend 6 hours rolling back to the last known working config.

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09-04-2009, 12:19 AM
Keep up the good work guys and thanks for fixing what needs fixing. ELL OHH ELL?

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09-04-2009, 12:22 AM
ROFLMAO!!!! :D
I think a better question is: Is the new guy working at all???
I know a mistake like that when I was a System Admin would have cost me my job!!

You cant sack someone for making a mistake...least i hope no one would.

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09-04-2009, 12:25 AM
the day someone writes a decent 3d game with multiplayer that is 100% bug free is the day the world will implode. you realise that don't you??

And as long as we - the paying customers - accept that, it'll never be changed. Imagine buying a tv that turns off now and then, cannot show all the channels yet, or changes a program halfway you're watching it. "Well yes ma'am/sir, it happens, but it's just been released, this telly".

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09-04-2009, 12:27 AM
You cant sack someone for making a mistake...least i hope no one would.

Well, there is a difference between making a small mistake and bringing down a production environment for several hours... I work in a production environment, and if someone managed to bring everything down for most of the working day, there would be hell to pay...

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09-04-2009, 12:27 AM
And as long as we - the paying customers - accept that, it'll never be changed. Imagine buying a tv that turns off now and then, cannot show all the channels yet, or changes a program halfway you're watching it. "Well yes ma'am/sir, it happens, but it's just been released, this telly".

That comparison doesn't even make sense. You can't just take two different things and compare them. They have to be somewhat similar.

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09-04-2009, 12:28 AM
Why that could not be solved until the official releas...
Such mistake must not happen :S

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09-04-2009, 12:28 AM
Except a TV is nowhere near the leve of complexity that an MMO is.
So many variables, and the nature of servers are that they are fickle beasts.

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09-04-2009, 12:28 AM
Ahahahah! Great comparison there Gwahr!

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09-04-2009, 12:28 AM
Login server keeps timing out. So, I'd bet that as of posting (1:30p PST) the servers were still not up and functioning.

That, or the new guy found a new directory to play in.

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09-04-2009, 12:29 AM
Ohhh my...emergency maintenance. The funny thing is? I wake up at about 4am (I'm on EST so that's pretty much right when it started) and think "Hey, I'll play some CO right away...fun times!"...then I realize that there's more maintenance a-brewin'! Ahh...me oh my oh...still, I could give them some credit...as it is I'm getting a better feeling from how this game's launch is progressing than how WoW's launch was.

All I remember from THAT launch is horrid lag and an entire 24 hour plus period in which nobody could play at all. Anything less than that and I can deal...plus I got an extra day to my free 30 days...which is nice.

As much as it may suck not to be able to play, whether it's "prime" time for your area of the world or not, at least you know why it's down and approximately how long it's going to take to fix it.

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09-04-2009, 12:29 AM
You cant sack someone for making a mistake...least i hope no one would.


Oh ya you can if the mistake is severe enough, though it also depends on the company. I know a guy responsible for a wierd system crash to cash registers getting to market who got canned, but I also know the QA tech at CCP who was held accountable for the EVE:trinity XP SP2 win.ini issue and they still have a job, just a demotion as well.

Either way, let the maintainence ride, any MMO worth its code will do the same thing launch week, there's just to much crucial data that can be mined from the servers to optimize performance and start some predictive stat-tracking, but the really good stuff means you gotta shut the servers down and stop the 'write' process.

And as a complete left-field, anyone know if theres a full-skeleton body unlock for costumes anywhere?

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09-04-2009, 12:32 AM
Champions Online is being brought down for emergency maintenance at 1AM PST. We are expecting this downtime to last no more than 2 hours. Please keep an eye on this thread for more details, and to be advised when the servers are back up!

Thank you,
The Champions Online Team

Lotsa emergencies... (http://www.sysadminday.com/images/horror/Danny.flooded_srvr_rm.jpg)

How's the netop doing that gave us so much joy yesterday? (http://www.sysadminday.com/images/horror/Frank.Schicksal.JPG)

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09-04-2009, 12:34 AM
... becuase it was down for 6 hours?

sorry , had to do it.

Har dee har har *rimshot*

Hopefully they will list why...

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09-04-2009, 12:36 AM
are they ever going to make eye beams a head slot or is that just going to stay listed and mechanically as a shoulder slot, I mean, I guess it would be a bit powerful to have that and a shoulder slot and chest slot all firing at once, but it makes no sense, it comes from your eyes not your shoulderblade : P

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09-04-2009, 12:37 AM
CoH had daily server takedowns too in the beginning. After a couple of months it dropped to weekly takedowns and a year after release taketowns became rare.

I expect something similar here.


CoH had daily maintenence until I hung up that cape for a new and shinier one a few days ago, I guess you where sleeping at the server down time though... (I'm GMT+1)

I'm still waiting to log in to the game, can't wait to fiddle around in the character creator!!!

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09-04-2009, 12:38 AM
This is a fairly smooth release as far as I can tell, though I'm guessing most people don't play every MMO from release like I generally do.

You could always go play **** where you have to download an anti piracy program with the game and then download another program that makes the anti-piracy program gtfo and let you play :)

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09-04-2009, 12:40 AM
are they ever going to make eye beams a head slot or is that just going to stay listed and mechanically as a shoulder slot, I mean, I guess it would be a bit powerful to have that and a shoulder slot and chest slot all firing at once, but it makes no sense, it comes from your eyes not your shoulderblade : P
But what if you're a mutant superhero with an eye ON your shoulder? Eh? Riddle me THAT, Batman!

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09-04-2009, 12:41 AM
darn it, server gotta be down the day i get sick and stay up all night because of stuffy runny nose.

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09-04-2009, 12:42 AM
This is a fairly smooth release as far as I can tell, though I'm guessing most people don't play every MMO from release like I generally do.

You could always go play **** where you have to download an anti piracy program with the game and then download another program that makes the anti-piracy program gtfo and let you play :)

Man NOW THAT sounds like fun. :eek:

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09-04-2009, 12:42 AM
Not that I am clamoring for rewards or anything - I have always found that to be silly - but giving away 'extra' days is kind of lame.

At least in the view of the ones with life time subs.

Hey! I get life +1!

Hehe forgot about that lifetime subscription thingie.. But still, you committed to the game for a lifetime.. I'm only trying it out - it's nice to get an extra day when stuff like this happened, in wow for example.. - you don't get jacksh*t :)

Anywho, i really enjoy the game - atleast the hours i've played, it's looking good! Go Cryptic GO! :D

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09-04-2009, 12:42 AM
Actually i would be satisfied with some reasons for the downtimes.

IMO notes for patches or maintenance are still kind of slackering...


As you have to get a plan on what you patch each time you change something, i am always wondering myself, why we get -at best- a coarse overview instead of details.

Personally i don´t like to get the half truth said and figure out the other half slowly by myself after.





Can´t be that hard. :rolleyes:



B.

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09-04-2009, 12:44 AM
darn it, server gotta be down the day i get sick and stay up all night because of stuffy runny nose.

Dood, me too. :p

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09-04-2009, 12:49 AM
But what if you're a mutant superhero with an eye ON your shoulder? Eh? Riddle me THAT, Batman!

I suppose I can't argue with that logic, though still, for most of us, we don't have eyes on our shoulder : P

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09-04-2009, 12:50 AM
And as long as we - the paying customers - accept that, it'll never be changed. Imagine buying a tv that turns off now and then, cannot show all the channels yet, or changes a program halfway you're watching it. "Well yes ma'am/sir, it happens, but it's just been released, this telly".

hi, welcome to reality!

maybe go google C++ then have a wander through the directx sdk, etc etc etc then come back and tell us how easy it is to write massive applications completely bug free for DIVERSE hardware (which a single TV is not). I'm sure Cryptic would love to hire a developer with your keen insight into the workings of applications like this.

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09-04-2009, 12:51 AM
I suppose I can't argue with that logic, though still, for most of us, we don't have eyes on our shoulder : P
You're just not thinking outside the mutated-appendage box! Not enough arms? Mutate a new one! Eyes not giving you the perception you deserve? Mutate today and see the world a new way!

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09-04-2009, 12:52 AM
Servers Up

Patching

Just thought I'd toss that out there, but dunno if 100% stable.

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09-04-2009, 12:52 AM
Server's up :)

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09-04-2009, 12:52 AM
ROFLMAO!!!! :D
I think a better question is: Is the new guy working at all???
I know a mistake like that when I was a System Admin would have cost me my job!!

Well if that would be the case, I wouldn't want to work for such a company anyway.

Everyone makes mistakes. You learn from it and move on. That's how you grow and build up experience.

Even Veteran IT pro's, who are in the bussiness for many years, still screw up now and then.

We are not talking about a doctor killing a patient, because he drunk to much on a party the night before.... or something like that.

It's just a game.

Cheers

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09-04-2009, 12:55 AM
I'd like to know what the patch did :)

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09-04-2009, 12:58 AM
The server is still technically down. If you patch early, you may have to repatch once the server actually comes up, thus wasting time. You might want to continue to refresh the main page to verify the server is actually up, that way you can avoid wait times for patching.

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09-04-2009, 12:59 AM
hi, welcome to reality!

maybe go google C++ then have a wander through the directx sdk, etc etc etc then come back and tell us how easy it is to write massive applications completely bug free for DIVERSE hardware (which a single TV is not). I'm sure Cryptic would love to hire a developer with your keen insight into the workings of applications like this.


I think the "DIVERSE hardware" is just a small part of game. It´s more the stability/balancing thingy IMO.

Actually the question is, if those emergency maintenance surprises have to be or if they could be collected to patch them all at once on a weekly base or if it´s still at the state of late non-stable beta.


I do understand both sides of understanding daily patching and complaining daily patching. Even we are almost all familiar with those up- and downtime starts, it won´t make it better at all.
Sometimes it seems to me, that every online-mmorpg has to invent his own wheel. ;)



Anyways, enjoy the time and work on alternative builds.. just for the case of another nerf... :p


B.

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09-04-2009, 01:00 AM
I see new build version. Any chance to see the patchnotes for it?

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09-04-2009, 01:02 AM
I'd like to know what the patch did :)

^This. There really needs to be notes in the launcher for ever patch we install, even if it just says "Patch 9-4-09: Upgraded Launcher Software"

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09-04-2009, 01:03 AM
Yes, where are the patchnotes? And the ones from the previous patch ?

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09-04-2009, 01:16 AM
Down for half the day and down again, sucks takeing a day off work to play when your not able to get into the game. Lets hope the get the bugs worked out before long, I hate paying for something I can't use.:mad:

I really hope and pray that you people who do this aren't serious. I worked as a manager for a Major Philadelphia based cable comp. All this right around the start of CoH. On Saturdays we let out guys bring in Laptops and watch movies or play mmo's over wireless. You take the day off to play? Fired.

Period. Get real. It is after all only a game. Not Rocket Surgery!
I get it you dont like downtimes but FFS.......

As a side note if you really want to ensure that you can play when you take a :Sick Day: to play...Might I suggest you email Cryptic in advance and let them know you are taking the day off and could they please keep the servers up.

*walks away shaking her head*

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09-04-2009, 01:18 AM
Does no one remember the WoW start?...i think they handed out a week of free time due to their stuff not working

At least i dont rubber band back 30blocksevery 2 min like i did in CoV's opening week...and that was considered relativity smooth.

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09-04-2009, 01:19 AM
I really hope and pray that you people who do this aren't serious. I worked as a manager for a Major Philadelphia based cable comp. All this right around the start of CoH. On Saturdays we let out guys bring in Laptops and watch movies or play mmo's over wireless. You take the day off to play? Fired.

Period. Get real. It is after all only a game. Not Rocket Surgery!
I get it you dont like downtimes but FFS.......

As a side note if you really want to ensure that you can play when you take a :Sick Day: to play...Might I suggest you email Cryptic in advance and let them know you are taking the day off and could they please keep the servers up.

*walks away shaking her head*

If he took a holiday then it's his business what he does on that day. Companies do not own their employees.

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09-04-2009, 01:35 AM
Any patch notes?

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09-04-2009, 01:38 AM
I have a note:

GameClient.exe wasnt able to initalize.


Thats all about the last patch.. servers up but u cant start the game.. nize work!

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09-04-2009, 01:45 AM
I really hope and pray that you people who do this aren't serious. I worked as a manager for a Major Philadelphia based cable comp. All this right around the start of CoH. On Saturdays we let out guys bring in Laptops and watch movies or play mmo's over wireless. You take the day off to play? Fired.

Period. Get real. It is after all only a game. Not Rocket Surgery!
I get it you dont like downtimes but FFS.......

As a side note if you really want to ensure that you can play when you take a :Sick Day: to play...Might I suggest you email Cryptic in advance and let them know you are taking the day off and could they please keep the servers up.

*walks away shaking her head*

I lol'd. The emote at the end was probably my favorite part.
She literally just assumed an apocryphal scenario in her mind where she and him were in the same room so she could walk away, shaking her head, for dramatic effect.
Priceless.

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09-04-2009, 01:48 AM
GameClient.exe has stopped working.


I get this error now after it's done patching. What gives?

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09-04-2009, 01:49 AM
I'm logged in fine.

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09-04-2009, 01:50 AM
I have a note:

GameClient.exe wasnt able to initalize.


Thats all about the last patch.. servers up but u cant start the game.. nize work!

That explains why I can't even get the game to start. I was starting to wonder if it was something on my computer.

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09-04-2009, 01:50 AM
So is the server up or down? I see no official confirmation.

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09-04-2009, 01:50 AM
That explains why I can't even get the game to start. I was starting to wonder if it was something on my computer.

Well that's a huge relief. I was panicking for a bit there.

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09-04-2009, 01:56 AM
I'm trying to update my patcher by downloading the latest one, since I still have the same one from OB. I'll let you know if this works.

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09-04-2009, 01:56 AM
ROFLMAO!!!! :D
I think a better question is: Is the new guy working at all???
I know a mistake like that when I was a System Admin would have cost me my job!!

I hope he is, it is a mistake, but these happen, I don't like to see so sever punishments, it was a mistake for sure, but nothing on the life threatening scale, logically the embarrassment alone is a quite severe punishment.

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09-04-2009, 01:57 AM
when you guys finish your emergency downtime, you all mind trotting the new guy out here so we can all point and laugh at him... again?

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09-04-2009, 02:01 AM
Reinstalling game and new patching wont help :mad:

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09-04-2009, 02:08 AM
Are the servers up as the web implies?

I can't see a post from Cryptic, also how about the patch server?

(just curious, no complaint)

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09-04-2009, 02:09 AM
a blatant..meh

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09-04-2009, 02:21 AM
Just wondering, is "emergency maintenance" code for "let's break the launcher.........again"

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09-04-2009, 02:22 AM
this wouldent happen if it was blizzard : /

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09-04-2009, 02:23 AM
this wouldent happen if it was blizzard : /

Yes. Yes it would, and yes it DID when WoW first launched.

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09-04-2009, 02:24 AM
this wouldent happen if it was blizzard : /

What wouldn't happen? Emergency maintenance, guess not they would just let the problems fester until next Tuesday.

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09-04-2009, 02:24 AM
and it does say server is up but now when i press play an error message comes up saying it would "initalize properly" weakkkkkk

Archived Post
09-04-2009, 02:27 AM
The launcher itself works fine, crpytic one upped Blizzard and broke the client. Cheers.

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09-04-2009, 02:27 AM
Press Play then Nothing...:(

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09-04-2009, 02:29 AM
nice, they given us a added day time.
i was hoping they would do that

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09-04-2009, 02:33 AM
A simple update would be nice. The Support forums are full of posts from people unable to log in but not 1 official reply :(

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09-04-2009, 02:33 AM
A simple update would be nice. The Support forums are full of posts from people unable to log in but not 1 official reply :(

Maybe they are tweeting again :rolleyes:

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09-04-2009, 02:35 AM
Maybe they are tweeting again :rolleyes:

No such luck.
http://twitter.com/Cryptic_Daeke

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09-04-2009, 02:35 AM
Ok, here is what i found out:

I saved a "pre-patch-installation" of CO.

Then i patched it. Starting CO brings the error mentioned above.

So i tried to copy 3 files from prepatch to actual "live" folder:

xlive.dll
xlivefnt.dll
xlperfctr.dll

After that, my client starts, but i am not able to connect to account server or able to login.

But i think the last patch made one or all of those files corrupt.

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09-04-2009, 02:43 AM
With all due respect, it would have been real nice if it could've been ensured things were working properly before they released the game and made us all pay for it. I bought the game several days ago and between the framerate issues and server downtime I haven't been able to play since.

things are working properly, did you read the post? it says a member of the team made a mistake nothing to do with the game being non complete.

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09-04-2009, 02:44 AM
things are working properly, did you read the post? it says a member of the team made a mistake nothing to do with the game being non complete.

Gullible is written on the ceiling.

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09-04-2009, 02:44 AM
A simple update would be nice. The Support forums are full of posts from people unable to log in but not 1 official reply :(

it says wait and cheak back for when the servers are up.

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09-04-2009, 02:47 AM
it says wait and cheak back for when the servers are up.


Will that be when PST timezone comes home from work like yesterday?

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09-04-2009, 02:47 AM
Gullible is written on the ceiling.

well im not one to make asumpions. based on the fact that i do not work at cryptic nor have i been involved in releasing a high profile game smoothly

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09-04-2009, 02:47 AM
it says wait and cheak back for when the servers are up.

The servers ARE UP !!! The this is a totally new problem that the gameclient.exe wont launch after last ~100mb patch on different systems.

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09-04-2009, 02:51 AM
The servers ARE UP !!! The this is a totally new problem that the gameclient.exe wont launch after last ~100mb patch on different systems.

did you patch up yestoday with that whole palarva with the 1gig patch. because there was a dev post about it somewhere and what to do.

if you didnt then this is indeed a new problem. im not gonna try run the game till they say its up, and at the moment i havn't read anywhere that its now back up.

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09-04-2009, 02:56 AM
did you patch up yestoday with that whole palarva with the 1gig patch. because there was a dev post about it somewhere and what to do.

if you didnt then this is indeed a new problem. im not gonna try run the game till they say its up, and at the moment i havn't read anywhere that its now back up.

Ok i think i have to explain a bit:

Yesterday was the big downtime thats right:

AFTER That, there was a 140mb patch and the game worked fine until 10am GMT today.
This downtime should last until 12am GMT today. Server came back online and another 123mb patch.

NOW the client wont start. Thats the problem..

You are talking about the 2nd last downtime...

Archived Post
09-04-2009, 02:56 AM
for those who can't get on try downloading the game client again from the Cryptic download page and run that. just click it to download and instead of saving it just open it and let it run. Then it should update your game and you can play.

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09-04-2009, 02:57 AM
So i treid to log in, got in no problem. Asked in game was told the downtime was only 1 hour. So much for checking back on this site to see if the servers are back up...

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09-04-2009, 02:57 AM
for those who can't get on try downloading the game client again from the Cryptic download page and run that. just click it to download and instead of saving it just open it and let it run. Then it should update your game and you can play.

Not true. People in the Support forums have tried that and it doesn't work for them.

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09-04-2009, 02:59 AM
I just did it and I'm playing

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09-04-2009, 03:00 AM
Ok i think i have to explain a bit:

Yesterday was the big downtime thats right:

AFTER That, there was a 140mb patch and the game worked fine until 10am GMT today.
This downtime should last until 12am GMT today. Server came back online and another 123mb patch.

NOW the client wont start. Thats the problem..

You are talking about the 2nd last downtime...

i played after the downtime and never downloaded anything. and i played till the early hours,
but thanks for letting me know about the new patch.

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09-04-2009, 03:00 AM
looks like it could swing either wayif I try to log in. Cross Fingers...

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09-04-2009, 03:03 AM
looks like it could swing either wayif I try to log in. Cross Fingers...

i downlaoded the 123mb patch fine and im in. so all should be fine.

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09-04-2009, 03:07 AM
Now I'd just really like some patch notes. Though from what I can tell, it's just the stuff from the last patch on test. Bye mini mines, bye pyre, bye... telekinetic eruption. *stream of obscenities*

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09-04-2009, 03:07 AM
for those who can't get on try downloading the game client again from the Cryptic download page and run that. just click it to download and instead of saving it just open it and let it run. Then it should update your game and you can play.


I get to the play button but game just disapers. Tried doing this way but that didn't work eaither.

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09-04-2009, 03:10 AM
I get to the play button but game just disapers. Tried doing this way but that didn't work eaither.

Did you maybe download the update yesterday that wasn't supposed to happen? If you did maybe it's because of that.

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09-04-2009, 03:12 AM
Did you maybe download the update yesterday that wasn't supposed to happen? If you did maybe it's because of that.
I belive so there was a patch yesterday and 1 today both automatic.

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09-04-2009, 03:18 AM
It may be that. But I'm not sure. But if you are willing to try then do what was said about what to do if you downloaded that patch first. Another forum member has to tell you where to find the instructions on that though as I don't know myself.

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09-04-2009, 03:31 AM
It may be that. But I'm not sure. But if you are willing to try then do what was said about what to do if you downloaded that patch first. Another forum member has to tell you where to find the instructions on that though as I don't know myself.
still cant get on but no offical word to say servers back up so will go play warhammer for a bit. Still sorted out myavatar atleast.

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09-04-2009, 03:36 AM
too bad. Wished I could help. The server is on though. I'm playing right now.

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09-04-2009, 03:44 AM
THE SOLUTION FOR THE PROBLEM IS HERE :

http://forums.champions-online.com/showpost.php?p=945334&postcount=56


Thanks to Powerhouse!

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09-04-2009, 03:52 AM
I simply cannot get the game to launch. Champions Online.exe does nothing and the Gameclient.exe file gets to log in but just sits looking for the account server forever.

edit. Also tried the previous post's C++ things but it hasnt made any difference.

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09-04-2009, 03:55 AM
yeah i can't connect either. the gameclient still crashes. can't update er nothing. gonna lose another day here :(

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09-04-2009, 04:01 AM
Yes quite.. please don't leave the sharp scissors in the Control room and well be fine..
That's what post Beta is all about.. a proper shake down cruise and the Ships leaks are patches the engines proven is a squall and the crew trained proper.. Pip Pip

-----------------------24/7 is about being the night zombie a foot in the door...
Omnia Omnibus Ubique

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09-04-2009, 04:35 AM
I don't even care about the down time. I had such a fun time tonight that I will dream about this game.

SHUT UP!!! If roper hears that we will get another nerf ALL HAIL ROPER DESTROYER OF GAMES!!

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09-04-2009, 04:51 AM
SHUT UP!!! If roper hears that we will get another nerf ALL HAIL ROPER DESTROYER OF GAMES!!

All hail the Principality of Ceon!

Ceon Forum Moderator: "Sir Roper Aznable we, umm I'm sorry to report but we have another feud of unhappy players in sector 7 of the forum instance, it looks like the Player Federation is gaining control."

Roper Aznable: "Well damnit, not again! Clear out the Update Colony, that's right! No sparkles and candy corn for these traitors, it's time to drop another Nerf Colony on them. That will show that the might and power of Ceon is absolute!"

"All Hail Ceon!"

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09-04-2009, 05:00 AM
All hail the Principality of Ceon!

Ceon Forum Moderator: "Sir Roper Aznable we, umm I'm sorry to report but we have another feud of unhappy players in sector 7 of the forum instance, it looks like the Player Federation is gaining control."

Roper Aznable: "Well damnit, not again! Clear out the Update Colony, that's right! No sparkles and candy corn for these traitors, it's time to drop another Nerf Colony on them. That will show that the might and power of Ceon is absolute!"

"All Hail Ceon!"

I like this guy! Wish he wouldn't take my candy corns though

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09-04-2009, 05:23 AM
application error same for everyone?

bummer.. I had the day off, and was going to get a lot done... in-game. :D

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09-04-2009, 05:33 AM
I've started my launcher, everything look fine, server showed up, but after pressing play, the game never started. My time 9h30 eastern time.

Are the server up or the game just crash and die?

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09-04-2009, 05:50 AM
I think everyone is having the same problem.

I do hope they are all over this, or this will be a long day. :mad:

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09-04-2009, 05:51 AM
I think everyone is having the same problem.

I do hope they are all over this, or this will be another long day. :mad:


fixed
10char

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09-04-2009, 05:57 AM
Servers are offline.....I dont see the green light at the top of the screen either

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09-04-2009, 05:59 AM
Same here application doesnt even start...:(

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09-04-2009, 06:01 AM
fixed
10char

hehe, thanks

at least my physical copy is arriving UPS today.

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09-04-2009, 06:12 AM
Not a single dev post today.. I hope they didn't take the day off. :eek:

anyway,

I don't know if it helps the dev's at all..

but also, after logging into the patcher it usually displays one of my toons on the left side. After the patch it had a small black box with "N/A" in white. This image also shows up on all of my toons if i go to the characters link on the main page.

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09-04-2009, 06:17 AM
Seriously, let's take a look at the fact that this game has been trully live for only 3 days. Any thing that is this "massive" (MMO) is going to have issues in the first couple of weeks and will require frequent updates and patches. I cannot think of one single MMO that has not encountered this same issue.

I will say the thing I appreciate the most is the fact that Cryptic is fast to react to any issues and does an amazing job of communicating what is going on. I have played WOW since day 1 and saw all the same issues. My regular day off is tuesdays and I can't tell you how many of those days were filled with down server time even up to a month ago. I understand youe frustration here. The biggest thing that differentiates Blizz from cryptic is customer service. WOW would never even think about giving any form of credit to their customers, while Cryptic is adding a free day to everyone for the lost day of game time. I salute you Cryptic for this decision. You now have a lifetime customer!

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09-04-2009, 06:18 AM
Blizzard bought Cryptic - they want their players back :P

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09-04-2009, 06:26 AM
:mad: FIX IT FIX IT FIX IT FIX IT FIX IT.... GUWAAHHHHH!!!!!! :mad:

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09-04-2009, 06:28 AM
omg it was supposed to take 2 hours ... wtf is this?? NOOOBS NOOOOOOOOBBBBSSS!!! FIX IT!!!!!!!!

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09-04-2009, 06:34 AM
Seriously, let's take a look at the fact that this game has been trully live for only 3 days. Any thing that is this "massive" (MMO) is going to have issues in the first couple of weeks and will require frequent updates and patches. I cannot think of one single MMO that has not encountered this same issue.

I will say the thing I appreciate the most is the fact that Cryptic is fast to react to any issues and does an amazing job of communicating what is going on. I have played WOW since day 1 and saw all the same issues. My regular day off is tuesdays and I can't tell you how many of those days were filled with down server time even up to a month ago. I understand youe frustration here. The biggest thing that differentiates Blizz from cryptic is customer service. WOW would never even think about giving any form of credit to their customers, while Cryptic is adding a free day to everyone for the lost day of game time. I salute you Cryptic for this decision. You now have a lifetime customer!

Don't get me wrong.. i'm not really complaining. I think Cryptic does an excellent job with reaction time.

I'm simply here to make sure they know there IS an issue.. so they can use their awesome mad-skillz to fix it. :D

And I didn't say "bad day".. I said "long day". :D


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*edit* Hatebreeder: dood, did you make that signature just for this thread.. lol. >.<

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09-04-2009, 06:37 AM
It says the server is up but I get to the first screen after log in and it just sits there - not patching????

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09-04-2009, 06:37 AM
To be fair, Cryptic is in California. It's still early morning for them. I expect we'll hear something soon.

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09-04-2009, 06:44 AM
I am scared for my well being. This is how my morning started yesterday too.........:(

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09-04-2009, 06:49 AM
To be fair, Cryptic is in California. It's still early morning for them. I expect we'll hear something soon.

omg, hehe. Good point. It's quite easy to forget that everyone doesn't live in my city. :rolleyes:

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09-04-2009, 06:49 AM
Servers are up am playing now, did you guys try the fix suggested earlier by Powerhouse?

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09-04-2009, 06:52 AM
Had to restart the patcher a few times to get past the "updating the patcher" stall but I appear to be zoning into the game now.

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09-04-2009, 06:56 AM
well its still not working for me

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09-04-2009, 07:01 AM
Really... patcher wont update for me

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09-04-2009, 07:04 AM
Servers are up am playing now, did you guys try the fix suggested earlier by Powerhouse?

maybe you could help by pointing us to said "fix", or by telling us what the "fix" is..

because I patched just fine.. when I hit play the game crashes. Please enlighten me.

*edit*

found it: http://forums.champions-online.com/showpost.php?p=945334&postcount=56

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09-04-2009, 07:06 AM
This is getting out of hand...this is the second day in a row where I'm not able to play.:mad:

something needs to be done or alot of unhappy gamers are going to stop lay'n and everything will go down the drain.

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09-04-2009, 07:06 AM
Well, it took me several attempts to get the patcher to connect and begin patching the client (previously, it would let me log in, but wouldn't connect to the patch server), but it seems to be running now.

Just hope the game is OK once the patcher has finished.


[edit] ... yep, I'm in.

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09-04-2009, 07:08 AM
The launcher itself works fine, crpytic one upped Blizzard and broke the client. Cheers.

I beg to differ its being a total clott
This doesnt half take some time

This is taking too long its just getting out of hand

Archived Post
09-04-2009, 07:09 AM
well here it is 11 olcock est and im still having an issue with it trying to update the launcher. Any idea how long it will be? and yes i did try the fix powerhouse suggested.No dice.

hope they get it fixed.

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09-04-2009, 07:12 AM
Has anyone taken a look at the system and application event logs? It looks (on my system at least) like the launcher is looking for microsoft vc90.crt (visual c++ component stuff). I only have vc80.crt.
As far as I can tell, this means that the latest patch has been compiled in debug mode and the people that don't have the necessary vc++ components are out of luck until the devs re-compile and re-patch.

Or download and install the latest visual c++ redistributable package:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=9b2da534-3e03-4391-8a4d-074b9f2bc1bf&displaylang=en

Tested this on my system and it seems to work now

This works. He's right. I'm in.

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09-04-2009, 07:12 AM
Had to restart a couple times, but its working just fine for me now.

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09-04-2009, 07:18 AM
The VC++ fix worked for me as well. Vista 64-bit.

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09-04-2009, 07:29 AM
Just because the client "only" needed to download a 70meg patch doesn't mean they didn't have to do lots of other changes on the server .. For one I'm thankful that they are fixing issues and rolling out updates as quickly as they do. Even if it does mean a slight loss of play time here at the start of it all.

A big part of client-server structures has been mentioned here. Just because we only needed 70MB it doesn't mean that's the only change for the server side. Files, generally, can't be updated when they're in use which is why you have to bring things down for updates. We have no idea what was updated on the server(s) or why it needed to be brought down for so long, but at least we only got stuck with a 70MB download. :)

I've said it in other threads, and several have said it here, but just try to be patient and weather the storm. MMO launches are (almost) always rocky. That doesn't mean we can't expect a quality product but there are going to be issues and those issues will need to be addressed. Cryptic is doing a good job of keeping us informed of what has been going on. The comment about the new NOC guy and what caused the big outage is a lot more than I've seen come from some other companies in the past when there was a problem. Most of the time they just say "We located the issue and it has been fixed" with no more explanation than that.

I know it sucks when the outages happen during your key play hours but things should get better. It's only the fourth. There has been one week of retail play time (if you had the early start) and honestly I've been able to play more often than not so I'm probably taking this lighter than some. However, if this is SOP a month from now then I think we'll all be grabbing the pitchforks and torches.

Sorry for the long-winded reply.

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09-04-2009, 07:32 AM
is the game down NOW or am I having patcher issues?

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09-04-2009, 07:35 AM
you're awesome dude, that fixed mine too.

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09-04-2009, 07:38 AM
Ignore this. Fix was found while I was posting.

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09-04-2009, 07:40 AM
I have a note:

GameClient.exe wasnt able to initalize.


Thats all about the last patch.. servers up but u cant start the game.. nize work!

This is the solution, works great :D

http://forums.champions-online.com/showthread.php?t=54340

edit:

forget it, someone was faster ^^

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09-04-2009, 07:55 AM
I see we're having to apply another patch after last night's maintenance. Yet, once again, there's no patch notes about this patch.

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09-04-2009, 07:59 AM
I hope this isn't going to be a repeat of yesterday....

Because I'm having the same initial issue with the Launcher not being able to "UPDATE"!!

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09-04-2009, 08:04 AM
Use the C++ fix on the previous page, it worked for me!

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09-04-2009, 08:05 AM
With all due respect, it would have been real nice if it could've been ensured things were working properly before they released the game and made us all pay for it. I bought the game several days ago and between the framerate issues and server downtime I haven't been able to play since.

You need to relax. THE most successful mmo - Wow had more problems at launch. So Chill, and get a life, find something to do in meantime. And if u concerned about $$ you should know better than to lunge urself into a freshly released game. Its kinda normal that they still tweak things after launch.

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09-04-2009, 08:07 AM
I'll admit to being a little annoyed since I have NEVER been able to log onto this game, since I bought it and got into the beta. The stupid server has been down every time I've tried. I could cry...

Having said that, I understand teething problems, but it's very disheartening

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09-04-2009, 08:13 AM
Edit: Message deleted by me

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09-04-2009, 08:24 AM
Use the C++ fix on the previous page, it worked for me!

I tired. Cannot install the C++ fix. Any other suggestions, perhaps by a SM?

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09-04-2009, 08:32 AM
So its not just me? Just got in from work (c. 5.30 pm GMT) and still won't launch, like yesterday.

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09-04-2009, 08:33 AM
I have to give it to Cryptic, that was the fastest few (literally 10-ish) seconds it's ever taken me to download a 100+ MB patch for a MMO game (usually patchers are slow and clunky (when it came to WoW) and at least not as fast as this). I must be lucky with the mirror being close to me or something since I typically only get those rates when downloading (no, not illegally) from dedicated hosts :rolleyes: Pleasently surprised about that :o

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09-04-2009, 08:59 AM
You need to relax. THE most successful mmo - Wow had more problems at launch. So Chill, and get a life, find something to do in meantime. And if u concerned about $$ you should know better than to lunge urself into a freshly released game. Its kinda normal that they still tweak things after launch.

That's like saying "It's ok that your rock band's music sucks... look how much money nickelback makes!!"

My point is that WoW is WoW, and this is something else.

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09-04-2009, 09:29 AM
ROFLMAO!!!! :D
I think a better question is: Is the new guy working at all???
I know a mistake like that when I was a System Admin would have cost me my job!!

You can't just fire a noob for ONE mistake... Well i guess you could, but it'd be a ^$&^& move if you ask me.

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09-04-2009, 09:51 AM
the C++ thing totally works :D

that guy should be paid instead of the actual team

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09-04-2009, 10:47 AM
Will cryptic split server status posts in to a separate section?

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09-04-2009, 11:04 AM
i still cant get it to launch it worked fine for me yesterday afternoon and now when i click play it says failed to "initalize application" WHAT DOES THIS MEAN!?!?1?!?1?!?1?!?!?1?!?!?!/

ahhhhhhhhhhh

: [

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09-04-2009, 11:12 AM
What is going on? It had a patch to download but it wont launch?

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09-04-2009, 11:38 AM
Id like to know why there numerous people still reporting issues around launching the patcher/client and nothing is apparently being done about it. The Main CO site doesnt even acknowledge there is still a problem.

When can we expect some support?

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09-04-2009, 03:58 PM
I hope they fıxed , i believe.

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09-04-2009, 04:28 PM
You can't just fire a noob for ONE mistake... Well i guess you could, but it'd be a ^$&^& move if you ask me.

That one mistake ****ed a lot of people off and happened at a bad time for Cryptic. But things happen. Hopefully the guy didn't lose his job because you can be damn sure that he won't be making that mistake again. ;)

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09-04-2009, 04:51 PM
Another patch. Brilliant, I'm only 60% done repatching the entire f'ing game because of what happened yesterday, and I've been patching since yesterday :mad:

At this rate I'll just be playing catch-up with the patcher :(

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09-04-2009, 06:05 PM
UNable to get Cryptic Launcher to UP DAAATE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:mad:


Lets go cryptic.. regress if you have to.. but let me play sheesh@#$#

Archived Post
09-04-2009, 07:28 PM
Speaking of maintenance, the one tonight at 1am was never going to be about the game itself. Cryptic didn't realize that it was still letting all the people who had pre-order accounts still play the game for free. If someone didn't say something, I'm sure they would have been able to play for a long time basicvally taking a **** on anyone who paid.

By the way glad they don't mind losing money on that, but they don't want to bother cleaning up the mess that is all the lies and backdoor deals that the billing department was making. Ticket 30787, anytime someone who isn't part of billing and/or not a total lair/douchebag can look at that, it would be greatly appreciated.

On a related note, if anyone else who had money issues or was getting paid on a day past the deadline was told by billing that a deal would be made where they could still receive the lifetime sub, please state who you spoke to or post the ticket number. Cryptic needs to know about what kind of shananigans was going on internally. Maybe someone from Cryptic will help, maybe not, but at least it can be put out here in the open so people are aware of what has been going on, since unfortunately, it seems like some parties are pretending this never occurred.

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09-04-2009, 08:25 PM
Thank god you guys decided to NOT patch a new build in tonight. I was wondering what madness your management was thinking to do that before a 3-day holiday weekend. If it was the same guy who made the bad call on that Sep 1st patch, then there might be some hope because at least he's learning from his mistakes.

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09-04-2009, 09:16 PM
Um, actually, they ARE patching a new build in tonight. http://champions-online.com/node/504003

Archived Post
09-05-2009, 12:33 AM
Um, actually, they ARE patching a new build in tonight. http://champions-online.com/node/504003

UPDATE 7:13PM: We will not be patching to a new build tonight.

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09-05-2009, 12:44 AM
I cannot subscribe at the moment, billing server down. Is this tied to this Maintenance? Really boring to type in all that stuff and hit the subscribe button and then..RED ANGRY LETTERS

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09-05-2009, 02:36 AM
I wonder what could possibly need to be adjusted now.

That was hopefully a joke. Theres a ton of problems and bugs that need to be addressed in a brand-new MMO.

However, I dont see anything about why I cannot access the game right now. its 1:30 pm here. I like to play these games in the mornings. I like the game so far despite it being suffering from server-related issues.. but this is getting out of hand. Feels like I have spent half of my available playtime waiting for the servers to come back up. On tuesday or was it wednesday I waited maybe 6 hours or so? This morning about 3-4 hours so far. Please guys, I have faith in you but do hurry up.

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09-05-2009, 02:44 AM
I can't tell if its my connection or Cryptic or both that's having issues right now. It;s 6:30 am my time and I have been trying since 3am to log on. 90% of the time I can't get the launcher to load and the one time I was able to log on, I needed to zone and crashed and now I'm back to trying to get the launcher to load.

Have issues with the forums too. Half the time when viewing a thread or just heading back to the main list (cause I'm an addict and I hang out here when I can't play) I get a server not found which is typical when my net goes down. However, other than occasionally, I can view other websites just fine. Here on the forums, I need to refresh 5-7 times (yes I was that bored and counted) before I can get the site to load again.

Again, because my internet is sometimes hiccupy, I can't tell when it's me or when it's just Cryptic but it's driving me guano insane. Cause it's every morning during this time now for the past couple days. I just. want. to play. please.

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09-05-2009, 03:48 AM
The downloader says that "server is up", and theres a worrying lack of other complaints on the forums right now... Are we alone not being able to login?!

If there is someone reading this who can get into the game please say so..

EDIT: YAY immediately after making a support ticket out of this as able to get in.. Loading takes ages though.

Archived Post
09-05-2009, 05:32 PM
New patch and still no information/solution about the ./piggs/texture.hogg error messages a lot of people have been getting... Although to be fair, it does seem to happen less than before.

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09-06-2009, 09:07 AM
i can't log in either. after three days i still can't play. loader always crashes.this not so cool anymore

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09-06-2009, 10:51 AM
'i can't log in either. after three days i still can't play. loader always crashes.this not so cool anymore'

yer i agree, im getting a bit sick of this. yes ppl will now proly say oooh wow launch was much worse or whatever, but to be honest, i couldnt care less about how the launches went for other games, and how long it took them to sort their stuff out....i paid for THIS game...and ide really just like to play it...:(