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09-03-2009, 01:32 PM
Looking for Feedback - Can this build in theory work - has a mix of ranged and melee attacks - primary stats Enurance/Ego - getting gear aimed towards Dex - can go offensive or defensive - what too take for the last travel speed and power?
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: Level 40 Champion
Superstats:
Level 5:
Level 13:
Powers:
Level 1: Kinetic Dart -- Incisive Wit
Level 1: Force Blast
Level 5: Force Shield -- Rank 2, Force Sheath
Level 5: Acrobatics -- Versatility
Level 8: Ego Blade Frenzy -- Unnerving Rage, Rank 2
Level 11: Force Eruption -- Rank 2, Rank 3
Level 14: Lightning Arc
Level 17: Shadow Form -- Rank 2, Rank 3
Level 20: Ego Choke
Level 23: Personal Force Field -- Rank 2, Rank 3
Level 26: Ego Blade Breach -- Rank 2, Rank 3
Level 29: Ego Annihilation -- Rank 2, Rank 3
Level 32: Mighty Leap
Level 35: Field Surge -- Rank 2, Rank 3
Level 35:
Level 38:
Talents:
Level 1: Impetus
Level 6: Energetic
Level 9: Indomitable
Level 12: Agile
Level 15: Shooter
Level 18: Accurate
Level 21: Daredevil
Archived Post
09-03-2009, 02:08 PM
Looking for Feedback - Can this build in theory work - has a mix of ranged and melee attacks - primary stats Enurance/Ego - getting gear aimed towards Dex - can go offensive or defensive - what too take for the last travel speed and power?
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: Level 40 Champion
Superstats:
Level 5:
Level 13:
Powers:
Level 1: Kinetic Dart -- Incisive Wit
Level 1: Force Blast
Level 5: Force Shield -- Rank 2, Force Sheath
Level 5: Acrobatics -- Versatility
Level 8: Ego Blade Frenzy -- Unnerving Rage, Rank 2
Level 11: Force Eruption -- Rank 2, Rank 3
Level 14: Lightning Arc
Level 17: Shadow Form -- Rank 2, Rank 3
Level 20: Ego Choke
Level 23: Personal Force Field -- Rank 2, Rank 3
Level 26: Ego Blade Breach -- Rank 2, Rank 3
Level 29: Ego Annihilation -- Rank 2, Rank 3
Level 32: Mighty Leap
Level 35: Field Surge -- Rank 2, Rank 3
Level 35:
Level 38:
Talents:
Level 1: Impetus
Level 6: Energetic
Level 9: Indomitable
Level 12: Agile
Level 15: Shooter
Level 18: Accurate
Level 21: Daredevil
I would say Laser Sword from Power Armor looks more like a Lightsaber than Ego Blades, I would pick up some other skills aswell, such as Drain Life, Arch Lightning, I would drop Shadow Form and go for Regeneration instead...
Actually I will post something I just made, of course there's always room for tweaks and such :)
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DarkJedi: Level 40 Champion
Superstats:
Level 5:
Level 13:
Powers:
Level 1: Force Bolts -- Energy Refraction
Level 1: Force Blast -- Crippling Challenge
Level 5: Force Shield -- Rank 2, Force Sheath, Rank 3
Level 5: Acrobatics -- Versatility
Level 8: Laser Sword -- Rank 2, Particle Acceleration
Level 11: Force Eruption -- Rank 2, Rank 3
Level 14: Lightning Arc -- Rank 2
Level 17: Regeneration -- Rank 2, Rank 3
Level 20: Ego Choke
Level 23: Lifedrain -- Rank 2, Rank 3, Accelerated Metabolism
Level 26: Unbreakable
Level 29: Shadow Shroud
Level 32: Mighty Leap
Level 35: Rebirth
Level 35: Teleport
Level 38: Sparkstorm -- Rank 2, Rank 3
Talents:
Level 1: Impetus
Level 6:
Level 9:
Level 12:
Level 15:
Level 18:
Level 21:
Archived Post
09-06-2009, 05:42 PM
/bump
I'm also attempting to creat a Force user and this is helps...
he's now lvl 8 I have a lvl 8 fire hero; I like this one better lots
I made strengh my Sstat to help knockbacks(force push)
looking forward to picking up a lightning power later on
Archived Post
09-06-2009, 07:12 PM
I don't think regeneration is a good idea, it scales with presence.
Lightning reflexes may be better.
I agree on the laser sword idea though.
Archived Post
09-06-2009, 08:57 PM
Force Bolts? Force Blast? You're making a Sith Sorcerer there...
The Ego Blades might not look perfectly like lightsabers, but it's your best bet for a complete destroyer. The Telekinesis powerset is just gravy for Dark Jedi. You have Telekinetic Wave which makes an excellent Force Push, Ego Choke for Force Grip, Telekinesis for Force Throw, and do you have any idea how much damage Ego Annihilation does? If you want a lightsaber-wielding slayer, this is the tree you want.
Drop PFF, it sucks anyway, go with Lightning Reflexes. Get a Dex/Ego build going for massive crit potential. Telekinetic Shield will serve as your barrier, granting you a constant deflection effect if you block often, and after the test server patch, it blocks significantly more damage than Force Sheathe.
Ego Storm can be picked up for a Force Destruction effect, and either Ego Form or Shadow Form when you want to switch to Offense. I'd rather have Shadow Form since it still helps the blade damage, but it also improves Telekinesis powers that already do good damage, you can color it as Dark Rage.
If you insist on Power Armor, at least grab the Energy Shield and slot it for Laser Knight. Little less damage for a nice auto-guard.
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09-06-2009, 10:57 PM
I don't think regeneration is a good idea, it scales with presence.
Lightning reflexes may be better.
I agree on the laser sword idea though.
Wrong, Regen scales with Rec.
Archived Post
09-06-2009, 11:59 PM
Made Some Changes/Tweaks based on the feedback - now to test it out
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Dark Jedi: Level 40 Champion
Superstats:
Level 5: Super Ego
Level 13: Super Dexterity
Powers:
Level 1: Kinetic Dart -- Incisive Wit
Level 1: Ego Blade Frenzy -- Rank 2, Rank 3
Level 5: Telekinetic Shield
Level 5: Acrobatics -- Versatility
Level 8: Lightning Reflexes -- Rank 2, Rank 3
Level 11: Telekinetic Wave -- Psychic Tides
Level 14: Ego Annihilation -- Rank 2, Rank 3
Level 17: Shadow Form -- Rank 2, Rank 3
Level 20: Ego Choke
Level 23: Ego Blade Breach -- Rank 2, Rank 3
Level 26: Ego Storm -- Malevolent Manifestation
Level 29: Force Eruption -- Gravitational Polarity
Level 32: Mighty Leap -- Bull Rush
Level 35: Masterful Dodge -- Unfettered Strikes
Level 35: Flight
Level 38: Lightning Arc -- Never Strikes Twice?
Talents:
Level 1: Quick Trigger
Level 6: Agile
Level 9: Indomitable
Level 12: Shooter
Level 15: Enduring
Level 18: Ascetic
Level 21: Acrobat
Archived Post
09-07-2009, 04:23 AM
Just a heads up. LR is modified based on the speed of the incoming attack. So, if the opponent has slow attacks, LR is great. If you are facing rapid attacks, you will die...alot. I had to finally respec out of LR at 30+ simply because I could no longer survive 4+ pulls. Just thought I'd let you know :D
Archived Post
09-07-2009, 07:14 AM
Just a heads up. LR is modified based on the speed of the incoming attack. So, if the opponent has slow attacks, LR is great. If you are facing rapid attacks, you will die...alot. I had to finally respec out of LR at 30+ simply because I could no longer survive 4+ pulls. Just thought I'd let you know :D
Sounds just like what a Jedi concept needs. Jedi are going to be mad hard to kill 1v1, but if overwhelmed, much easier. Besides, dodging things makes sense.
Archived Post
09-07-2009, 07:18 AM
Kinetic Darts of Force Bolts, does it matter ?, of those two Force Bolts still fits it more, due to them knocking down, and graphical standpoint are not as flashy.
Force Blast is your Force Push, charge it up and you knock people away everytime.
its a Concept, and it works, atleast to the lvl which I played it ;)
Archived Post
09-07-2009, 07:54 AM
Just a heads up. LR is modified based on the speed of the incoming attack. So, if the opponent has slow attacks, LR is great. If you are facing rapid attacks, you will die...alot. I had to finally respec out of LR at 30+ simply because I could no longer survive 4+ pulls. Just thought I'd let you know :D
Thing is, invuln, pff, and regen all work off different stats. A Jedi has to go full defensive mode to really survive a SWARM of blaster bolts, and for that you have Telekinetic Shield which has a lingering effect that blocks about 40% damage.
Conceptually, I've never seen Jedi fly. If you want a Jetpack flight, go with the boots. Super Jump kinda works, but I think the Disc Flight is best. It's an actual futuristic contraption doing the levitating.
The last thing I'd change is Ego vs Dex. Switch them. You need the Dex early on for Lightning Reflexes, waiting till level 13 to be able to dodge well is going to make LR useless at level 8.
Archived Post
09-07-2009, 05:13 PM
Force Bolt Version
2nd travel power - yeah flight doesn't fit - but to be honest I pretty much just use acrobatics - don't really care for the others - boots/disc has a good theme to it
Biggest Different between force and kinetic bolts - force has KB and you can get a defensive advantage on the bolts - kinetic can stun and proc your 2nd id blade if you take the advantage
But will either build have a problem with energy - is con a a good third stat to pump up or would enudrance/recovery be better?
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: Level 40 Champion
Superstats:
Level 5: Super Ego
Level 13: Super Dexterity
Powers:
Level 1: Force Bolts -- Energy Refraction
Level 1: Force Blast
Level 5: Force Shield -- Rank 2, Force Sheath
Level 5: Acrobatics -- Versatility
Level 8: Ego Blade Frenzy -- Rank 2, Rank 3
Level 11: Lightning Reflexes -- Rank 2, Rank 3
Level 14: Force Eruption
Level 17: Shadow Form -- Rank 2
Level 20: Ego Choke -- Garroting Grip
Level 23: Masterful Dodge -- Unfettered Strikes
Level 26: Ego Blade Breach -- Rank 2, Rank 3
Level 29: Ego Annihilation -- Rank 2, Rank 3
Level 32: Mighty Leap -- Bull Rush
Level 35: Lightning Arc
Level 35: Flight
Level 38: Ego Storm -- Malevolent Manifestation
Talents:
Level 1: Quick Trigger
Level 6: Agile
Level 9: Indomitable
Level 12: Shooter
Level 15: Enduring
Level 18: Ascetic
Level 21: Acrobat
Archived Post
09-07-2009, 06:56 PM
Alright, here's another one... my previous Ego/Dex TK suggestions are for a Dark Jedi that is the closest to the real thing while still being playable (Telekinesis powers fit well for the Force and Lightsabers, and it's not a crappy set).
This one I'm not so sure on the playability of... it has energy issues when I tested it, even with Focus of the Unleashed Tempest with a high DEX crit rate. However, with END as a super stat, you can literally spam Laser Sword without fear, and Laser Knight turns you into a deflecting machine. I still tried to make it playable, and somewhat PVP compatible (snares, travel power knock off, holds) but it's the closest thing to a real Jedi I can muster.
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Sith Warrior: Level 40 Champion
Superstats:
Level 5: Super Dexterity
Level 13: Super Endurance
Powers:
Level 1: Electric Bolt -- Accelerated Metabolism
Level 1: Lightning Arc -- Never Strikes Twice?, Rank 2
Level 5: Ego Weaponry -- Thought Sever, Rank 2
Level 5: Acrobatics -- Versatility, Rank 2, Rank 3
Level 8: Energy Shield -- Laser Knight, Rank 2
Level 11: Lightning Reflexes -- Rank 2, Rank 3
Level 14: Thunderbolt Lunge -- Essence Assault
Level 17: Laser Sword -- Rank 2, Rank 3
Level 20: Ego Choke -- Rank 2, Rank 3
Level 23: Telekinetic Wave -- Psychic Tides
Level 26: Force Eruption -- Gravitational Polarity
Level 29: Inexorable Tides
Level 32: Ego Storm
Level 35: Sleep
Level 35: Hover Disk
Level 38: Focus Of The Unleashed Tempest
Talents:
Level 1: The Hero
Level 6: Sniper Training
Level 9: Jack Of All Trades
Level 12: Covert Ops Training
Level 15: Accurate
Level 18: Paramilitary Training
Level 21: Martial Training
Archived Post
09-08-2009, 06:32 AM
I would definitly say for a dark jedi go Electric colored red...also id forget the light saber and just pick up swords. They use swords in the kotr universe anyway and youll have more attacks to choose from.
Archived Post
09-08-2009, 07:29 AM
Alright, here's another one... my previous Ego/Dex TK suggestions are for a Dark Jedi that is the closest to the real thing while still being playable (Telekinesis powers fit well for the Force and Lightsabers, and it's not a crappy set).
This one I'm not so sure on the playability of... it has energy issues when I tested it, even with Focus of the Unleashed Tempest with a high DEX crit rate. However, with END as a super stat, you can literally spam Laser Sword without fear, and Laser Knight turns you into a deflecting machine. I still tried to make it playable, and somewhat PVP compatible (snares, travel power knock off, holds) but it's the closest thing to a real Jedi I can muster.
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Sith Warrior: Level 40 Champion
Superstats:
Level 5: Super Dexterity
Level 13: Super Endurance
Powers:
Level 1: Electric Bolt -- Accelerated Metabolism
Level 1: Lightning Arc -- Never Strikes Twice?, Rank 2
Level 5: Ego Weaponry -- Thought Sever, Rank 2
Level 5: Acrobatics -- Versatility, Rank 2, Rank 3
Level 8: Energy Shield -- Laser Knight, Rank 2
Level 11: Lightning Reflexes -- Rank 2, Rank 3
Level 14: Thunderbolt Lunge -- Essence Assault
Level 17: Laser Sword -- Rank 2, Rank 3
Level 20: Ego Choke -- Rank 2, Rank 3
Level 23: Telekinetic Wave -- Psychic Tides
Level 26: Force Eruption -- Gravitational Polarity
Level 29: Inexorable Tides
Level 32: Ego Storm
Level 35: Sleep
Level 35: Hover Disk
Level 38: Focus Of The Unleashed Tempest
Talents:
Level 1: The Hero
Level 6: Sniper Training
Level 9: Jack Of All Trades
Level 12: Covert Ops Training
Level 15: Accurate
Level 18: Paramilitary Training
Level 21: Martial Training
Some amazing concepts here!!!
One question though I have been thinking about, when does one take upgrades to these various powers. Meaning "Rank1, Rank2, etc..." When everyone posts their builds here do these upgrades go in order how they are listed, or do you take these upgrades randomly?
Archived Post
09-08-2009, 12:49 PM
I'm liking my force "Jedi' so far, granted he's only 11 I just picked up Force erruption(or whatever that PBOE knockback power is) and LOVE IT
playing him reminds me a bit of playing The Apprentice in the Force Unleashed..the force attack knocks back alot, now only if Force has a pull...
I WAS going to drop PFF and reroll with reflexes but the PFF fits the concept(using the force as a shield) so I'll keep it
I also love how acrobatics works when fighting since he's ranged with the only melee(so far) I have is Laser sword and the afrementioned PBOE Force power.
I'm looking forward to seeing when I go with this concept, perhaps Electricity as others have posted..
I'm just not sure what Elec power to take..
Archived Post
09-08-2009, 09:18 PM
Messing around with talents and ranks of the powers but what you think of the powers?
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Messaround: Level 40 Champion
Superstats:
Level 5: Super Dexterity
Level 13: Super Ego
Powers:
Level 1: Kinetic Dart -- Accelerated Metabolism
Level 1: Ego Weaponry -- Rank 2, Thought Sever
Level 5: Ego Blade Frenzy -- Unnerving Rage, Rank 2
Level 5: Acrobatics -- Rank 2, Rank 3
Level 8: Ego Form -- Rank 2
Level 11: Lightning Reflexes
Level 14: Telekinetic Eruption
Level 17: Ego Annihilation -- Mindful Inversion, Rank 2
Level 20: Telekinesis -- Rank 2
Level 23: Ego Choke -- Garroting Grip, Rank 2
Level 26: Ego Blade Breach -- Domineering Will
Level 29: Mighty Leap -- Bull Rush
Level 32: Sparkstorm -- Rank 2
Level 35: Force Eruption -- Gravitational Polarity, Rank 2
Level 35: Flight -- Rank 2, Rank 3
Level 38: Masterful Dodge
Talents:
Level 1: Quick Trigger
Level 6: Physical Conditioning
Level 9: Martial Focus
Level 12: Shooter
Level 15: Academics
Level 18: Covert Ops Training
Level 21: Ascetic
Archived Post
09-13-2009, 04:41 AM
Made Some Changes/Tweaks based on the feedback - now to test it out
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Dark Jedi: Level 40 Champion
Superstats:
Level 5: Super Ego
Level 13: Super Dexterity
Powers:
Level 1: Kinetic Dart -- Incisive Wit
Level 1: Ego Blade Frenzy -- Rank 2, Rank 3
Level 5: Telekinetic Shield
Level 5: Acrobatics -- Versatility
Level 8: Lightning Reflexes -- Rank 2, Rank 3
Level 11: Telekinetic Wave -- Psychic Tides
Level 14: Ego Annihilation -- Rank 2, Rank 3
Level 17: Shadow Form -- Rank 2, Rank 3
Level 20: Ego Choke
Level 23: Ego Blade Breach -- Rank 2, Rank 3
Level 26: Ego Storm -- Malevolent Manifestation
Level 29: Force Eruption -- Gravitational Polarity
Level 32: Mighty Leap -- Bull Rush
Level 35: Masterful Dodge -- Unfettered Strikes
Level 35: Flight
Level 38: Lightning Arc -- Never Strikes Twice?
Talents:
Level 1: Quick Trigger
Level 6: Agile
Level 9: Indomitable
Level 12: Shooter
Level 15: Enduring
Level 18: Ascetic
Level 21: Acrobat
Been using this up to lvl 18 now and I love it, but it's sometimes a bit hard to fight multiple enemies.
This is my attemt at trying to make a dark jedi type character with Dual Blades.. I have not tried it and I'm not at all sure if its going to work.
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PreSith Dark Jedi: Level 40 Champion
Superstats:
Level 5: Super Ego
Level 13: Super Dexterity
Powers:
Level 1: Force Bolts -- Energy Refraction
Level 1: Blade Tempest -- Crashing Crescendo
Level 5: Force Shield -- Force Sheath
Level 5: Acrobatics -- Versatility
Level 8: Lightning Reflexes -- Rank 2, Rank 3
Level 11: Force Eruption -- Gravitational Polarity
Level 14: Storm's Harvest -- Rank 2, Rank 3
Level 17: Telekinetic Wave -- Psychic Tides
Level 20: Eye Of The Storm -- Blade Beyond The Veil, Rank 2
Level 23: Masterful Dodge -- Unfettered Strikes
Level 26: Ego Choke -- Garroting Grip
Level 29: Dragon's Wrath -- Rank 2, Rank 3
Level 32: Mighty Leap -- Bull Rush
Level 35: Lightning Arc -- Never Strikes Twice?
Level 35: Hover Disk
Level 38: Ego Storm
Talents:
Level 1: Quick Trigger
Level 6: Agile
Level 9: Indomitable
Level 12: Shooter
Level 15: Energetic
Level 18: Daredevil
Level 21: Accurate