Content Gaps

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I thought I'd start a thread where people can post content gaps they encounter. As others read, they can maybe suggest options, and the devs can get a picture of where their customers are running into issues.

That said, on my level 22 I'm about 90k short of 23. I've done all of the level 22 missions in Canada and a few of the 23's (like the ones from the female precog at the Project Awakening waypoint). Contacts in my Crime Computer are only offering level 23-25 missions. I've gotten and completed several level 22 door missions from the Socrates network except I can only find 5 of the 6 briefcases in "Saving Heroes... A Test Tube at a Time." In fact, Socrates offered me two level 24 door missions.

So I'm seeing a substantial hole in the 22-23 range.

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Same thing here. Except I'm stuck at 23.

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I was never stuck, from 1 to near 36 (with a full quest log). I often had to turn down quests because my log was full. I never farmed or grinded npc's, I did missions all the way up. There are more than enough missions to go to 40.

Now, what is missing is Cryptic holding my hand. There were a number of times when I had no quests in my log and no indication of where to get more, so I'd start running around to where I remembered silver !'s, and sure enough there'd be 30 quests there to fill me back up.

So there is no dearth of content, nor are there gaps. What there are, however, is an absence of continuity quests. Most MMO players are used them from games like WoW, where you get a quest to go to the next hub, so you're never left not quite sure where to go. I found a number of batches of missions with no clue how I was supposed to know they were there. Canada has a TON of quests, from 1-35, and you'll go in and out of that zone as you level.

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If you found enough quest to level from 37 to 40, I would like to hear about them. I'm not even halfway to 37 and I've ran out of missions to do.

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Thanks for the completely unhelpful post. I don't need hand holding, I need quests. There's not a single quest my level avaialble. I've scoured all three zones and there's nothing. It's not entertaining in the least to run around blind hoping to see a !.

As a matter of fact, you really had no reason to even post in here, you didn't add anything remotely useful. This is for people to report gaps so Cryptic knows where we're having trouble. If there's more quests available then they need to add them to the crime computer.

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If you found enough quest to level from 37 to 40, I would like to hear about them. I'm not even halfway to 37 and I've ran out of missions to do.

Well I'm not there yet, but I've not found a single gap on the way to where I am, and I see a lot of silver !'s, so I have to assume from that point forward. I definitely found no gaps on my way to 35, which was the OP's point. I'll hit 36 here in a few minutes and see, but I'm hoping it's consistent all the way up.

Edit: One thing I did note, if you missed a hub and slugged your way through higher level content, that may create a gap at the higher end. For example, there's easily 3-4 lvls of content out in nooks in Canada. If a hero didn't do them and ground out quests 3 lvls over their head, then that's exps they never got, which would skew them down a bit and maybe create gaps.

Just theorizing.

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Quest have been found! They just weren't in the crime computer, and would of completely missed them if I didn't happen to fly over looking for things to kill.

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Edit: One thing I did note, if you missed a hub and slugged your way through higher level content, that may create a gap at the higher end. For example, there's easily 3-4 lvls of content out in nooks in Canada. If a hero didn't do them and ground out quests 3 lvls over their head, then that's exps they never got, which would skew them down a bit and maybe create gaps.

Just theorizing.

Well, then reporting perceived gaps might allow devs to look at your completed mission log and see which ones were missed. If lots of folks are missing the same missions, that might indicate that a pointer would help, and prevent player frustration.

Now, what is missing is Cryptic holding my hand.

Your initial post was helpful in that it offered a tactic some folks might not have considered. The denigrating tone implied by the use of the phrase "holding my hand" seems to have offended at least one poster. If that was not your intent, more careful consideration of phrasing might be in order.

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If you found enough quest to level from 37 to 40, I would like to hear about them. I'm not even halfway to 37 and I've ran out of missions to do.

ditto I hit 38 off of public quests because I ran outta quests to do.

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Thanks for the completely unhelpful post. I don't need hand holding, I need quests. There's not a single quest my level avaialble. I've scoured all three zones and there's nothing. It's not entertaining in the least to run around blind hoping to see a !.

As a matter of fact, you really had no reason to even post in here, you didn't add anything remotely useful. This is for people to report gaps so Cryptic knows where we're having trouble. If there's more quests available then they need to add them to the crime computer.

Angry, angry young person. He wasnt doing anything wrong.

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Your initial post was helpful in that it offered a tactic some folks might not have considered. The denigrating tone implied by the use of the phrase "holding my hand" seems to have offended at least one poster. If that was not your intent, more careful consideration of phrasing might be in order.

Or you know, people could develop a sense of humour and read. he said, "he missed Cryptic holding his hand,"

- and i agree with him. I am at 23 on my main and would love to have someone point me in the right direction, cos i know there are quests out there.

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I am level 34 with and have never once had time without any quests. Only time I ran out, I fired up the crime computer and went to the 3 or so places I had missed.

Have you been doing the open quests? All citizen patrol quests (typically you get these at the "right" level by either freeing citizens in trouble or just having them run up to you as you stand on the ground)? Have you really done all quests listed in the crime computer? One sidenote - I did both canada and desert areas after leaving the desert crisis. I wonder if some people skip doing one or the other?

Right now at level 34 though I have been doing quests that's 1-2 levels above me. I try to avoid it but I did ran out of level 33 quests to do and did level 34-35 ones. This of course leads me to believe that I will run out in a few levels. I still have 5 instance quests (two in Canada, one in monster island) to do too for example.

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I am level 34 with and have never once had time without any quests. Only time I ran out, I fired up the crime computer and went to the 3 or so places I had missed.

Have you been doing the open quests? All citizen patrol quests (typically you get these at the "right" level by either freeing citizens in trouble or just having them run up to you as you stand on the ground)? Have you really done all quests listed in the crime computer? One sidenote - I did both canada and desert areas after leaving the desert crisis. I wonder if some people skip doing one or the other?

Right now at level 34 though I have been doing quests that's 1-2 levels above me. I try to avoid it but I did ran out of level 33 quests to do and did level 34-35 ones. This of course leads me to believe that I will run out in a few levels. I still have 5 instance quests (two in Canada, one in monster island) to do too for example.

At level 22, my CComputer is only offering contacts with missions +1 - +3 as of last night. I have done some of the +1's. I did most of the 14-20 Help a Citizen missions that were offered, with the exception of one or two that popped up when I had to go. I have also done all of the Socrates network missions offered including two that were for level 24's.

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If you have +1 missions then you are fine. You don't have to only do missions at your level. There would be a gap if all missions are +3, but as long as you still got enough +1s then there is enough to do.
+1 doesn't mean you should not do it, it means that they will be a bit more challenging.

I'd suggest finishing up snake gulch and moving northeast towards stronghold. But the missions there will be +2 and are not really what you are looking for.

Still as you have things to do which you yourself agree you are quite capable of doing, there is no gap and definitly not a substantial one.

I by the way am 29 and am still clearing up old missions in Canada up to 4 levels below me.

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Or you know, people could develop a sense of humour and read. he said, "he missed Cryptic holding his hand,"

- and i agree with him. I am at 23 on my main and would love to have someone point me in the right direction, cos i know there are quests out there.

Purely as a point of clarification, MacAllen's original post read, "Now, what is missing is Cryptic holding my hand." I don't read that the same way you seem to. I was just noting that one reader seemed to take objection to this phrasing. It certainly could be interpreted as condescending. ;)

As to the rest of your post, that was why I included the info about the missions given by the female precog by the Project Awakening recover point in my original post. This NPC did not appear in the CComputer. Maybe if folks find mission chains in out-of-the-way places they could post them here in addition to posting the perceived gaps.

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I'd suggest finishing up snake gulch and moving northeast towards stronghold. But the missions there will be +2 and are not really what you are looking for.

Done everything in/around Snake Gulch. On a 22, The missions offered at Stronghold are +2-+3. Are there missions in little out-of-the-way places in between?

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Done everything in/around Snake Gulch. On a 22, The missions offered at Stronghold are +2-+3. Are there missions in little out-of-the-way places in between?

No, once you finish with snake gulch and the surrounding viper area the desert jumps to 24 around Stronghold and leads to a few quests near area 51.
Most of the 22 stuff is in Canada. The Gadroon, Viper and Argend content.
If the server goes up I'll try to recheck my mission log, see what info it kept.

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No, once you finish with snake gulch and the surrounding viper area the desert jumps to 24 around Stronghold and leads to a few quests near area 51.
Most of the 22 stuff is in Canada. The Gadroon, Viper and Argend content.
If the server goes up I'll try to recheck my mission log, see what info it kept.

OK, thanks!

The Gadroon missions were 24-25 in CB, and Argent was 25-26. The 22 stuff currently is all Hunter-Patriot driven (e.g., Renegade Run) then the Viper missions are 23-24ish. I've done all but 3 of the 23 missions there.

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I was never stuck, from 1 to near 36 (with a full quest log). I often had to turn down quests because my log was full. I never farmed or grinded npc's, I did missions all the way up. There are more than enough missions to go to 40.

Now, what is missing is Cryptic holding my hand. There were a number of times when I had no quests in my log and no indication of where to get more, so I'd start running around to where I remembered silver !'s, and sure enough there'd be 30 quests there to fill me back up.

So there is no dearth of content, nor are there gaps. What there are, however, is an absence of continuity quests. Most MMO players are used them from games like WoW, where you get a quest to go to the next hub, so you're never left not quite sure where to go. I found a number of batches of missions with no clue how I was supposed to know they were there. Canada has a TON of quests, from 1-35, and you'll go in and out of that zone as you level.

Yea and you did this before the last patch that adjusted exp. If you claim you did this after I will straight up call you a liar.

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Stuck here at 35 with 182k experiance to level.

No missions at all. Did every crime computer mission that socrates gives you, and every mission in every single zone.

Means I'm forced to either farm open missions, manimal weaponsmiths, or go afk in the open until my nemesis minions drop a clue 500 times

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I thought that there was a content gap as for a while all that I had access to were missions 2-3 levels above me, but then I checked my crime computer and found several people offering missions that I didn't receive a "Bread crumb" mission for. This was the level 23-26-ish area.

Right now, I am toeing the line for level 29 and the group quests I have in my log will likely bump me to 30 adding in kill experience. However, I did both the Desert and Canada Crisis zones and I am quickly approaching the point where all my available quests are group missions (which is not a bad thing) or to go to the Monster Island Crisis which is 2 levels above me. I also did not do many of the "Door" missions during my 14-20 time.

So taking that into account...it seems to me that there might very well be a small gap that requires some grinding, but I'm not sure exactly where. I was level 25 by launch day. Doing both crisis zones should not be required to have no content gaps. I fully expect to run out of missions shortly though, as I'm supposed to be moving to a new zone.

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I made 23. I decided to grind about the last 75K to leave myself a few level 23 missions for when I was actually 23. Made it by killing Cyborg Fanatics (near Renegade Run) at about 1.3k a pop, along with a few Gadroon and miscellaneous scum, throwing in "Scare Straight" when I went by Steelhead and it was up.

I will post other content gaps, when and if I encounter them, along with the steps I took (successful or not) to try to remedy them. If others could do the same, both gaps and solutions, if they found one, that would be great.

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My odd tip is that if you see someone in trouble, save them. It was honestly one of the things that always bothered me in another MMO involving superheroes that there was little reason to save people you found in trouble- saving a person tends to give either an XP award (500-ish around) or a mission to do. The civilian missions may not be quite as rewarding as the real quests, but they've been a pretty good supplement for mission XP I may have trouble finding.

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I think the whole game suffers from an experience curve starting at level 12. From then you're constantly doing quests higher level than you are. My friend and I are now level 21 and we can't even use the quest rewards we're getting because the only quests we can get are level 23.

This is a problem because A) it makes it very difficult to complete quests that have you killing +5 NPC's. B) We often run out of quests completely and have to scrounge around for things to do.

The whole thing does not add up to a fun experience and I hope the devs review it soon.

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I am level 34 with and have never once had time without any quests. Only time I ran out, I fired up the crime computer and went to the 3 or so places I had missed.



I'm wondering if maybe people are missing an aspect of the crime computer here? They are used to going there for the socrates missions. But do they know that from the same screen they can click search for emergency's to get a list of contacts in their level range?

I'm wondering if maybe they are missing that button and not realizing that the crime computer does more than just give them random missions.

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I'm wondering if maybe people are missing an aspect of the crime computer here? They are used to going there for the socrates missions. But do they know that from the same screen they can click search for emergency's to get a list of contacts in their level range?

I'm wondering if maybe they are missing that button and not realizing that the crime computer does more than just give them random missions.

That suggestion has certainly been made in multiple threads. The problem comes in when the contacts the CComputer provides are only offering missions that are +2-+3. Some folks seem to run into this issue and others are not.

Some missions are also not available to one character and are to others, which can also cause smaller or larger gaps. For instance, my first character thru MC was able to get the mission to defeat the two metal themed martial artists and for the 2nd character the mission is nowhere to be seen, though I've completed the preliminary mission. Another example, the mission chain involving the New Purple Gang that starts with Chief Surhoff as a level 15 mission has not been available to either toon, though I did it as recently as OB. The chain ends with you fighting Pulsar in a New Purple Gang hideout. Maybe that chain was moved to higher level or dropped completely.

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Redsea@SentinalBlade;

lvl 23, Single Blades, took med drones, and Pyre(fixing to take another fire power)

ALL Canada quests currently have been completed, save for one viper Master Villain quest, and all but two of the gadroon quests. Gadroon quests are level 25, and i received them at 21.

Desert Prison Quests are all finished, save for the one where you enter the stronghold.

I dont even have a bar into 23. Prison quests gave me around 6 bars total, i think.

Still cant handle the Gadroons. And thats actually a good heap of quests...maybe 8 total, that might almost get me to 24 :)

CComputer has pointed me to everything else in the desert, and ive done it.

Any hints on where to head next?

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I thought I'd start a thread where people can post content gaps they encounter. As others read, they can maybe suggest options, and the devs can get a picture of where their customers are running into issues.

That said, on my level 22 I'm about 90k short of 23. I've done all of the level 22 missions in Canada and a few of the 23's (like the ones from the female precog at the Project Awakening waypoint). Contacts in my Crime Computer are only offering level 23-25 missions. I've gotten and completed several level 22 door missions from the Socrates network except I can only find 5 of the 6 briefcases in "Saving Heroes... A Test Tube at a Time." In fact, Socrates offered me two level 24 door missions.

So I'm seeing a substantial hole in the 22-23 range.


ok, as a level 40, ive been going back and doing every mission i missed

and i have come to a conclusion

you can go from 1-40, without doing ANY grinding, if you get all the missions

now hear me out

coming out of the crisis missions in either desert or canada, you are in the same zone
you do all the quests, check the computer, go to where they say, but, have you ever stopped and wondered about certain parts of each of those zones, which the quests do not send you to? well after going back and checking alot of these areas, i have found dozens upon dozens of quests, dropping off mobs, off npc's the computer does not send me to, which would have made it so i was doing easier missions all the way through to 40 with no grinding or gaps at all

additonaly, you may check your knowledge perks to see if their is more to a quest chain you have been working on. this is something many people didnt know you could do at all when i pointed it out. each and every quest has a chain of events that lead to a story arc perk, if you didnt get that perk, you arent done. when you finish all the minor arcs, you get a major arc perk(arc a, b, c, d all lead to perk X for instance) so if you are missing a minor arc, you may need a drop off a mob or maybe you missed a guy not listed, ive found tons of these like this.

the problem is, people RELY on that damn crime computer, so what can ya do but complain if it doesnt hold your hand all the way through


and i am starting a new character tomorow, and i bet io make it to 40 without grinding, just watch