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09-02-2009, 12:18 AM
I recognize that for game balance purposes its necessary for escort mission NPCs to be slow and follow a stupid circuitous path, but for the purposes of immersion, could they at least stop waving at the enemy in such a jaunty, friendly manner? Maybe have them do a scared animation so they do a little tiptoe thing instead.
I'm escorting this lawyer or whatever and the dude honestly looks like he thinks he's at a PARADE! This is not a photo op, moron, there are people with bats and guns after you, MOVE YOUR PASTY WHITE-COLLAR ASS!!!
While you're at it, could you maybe add something to the quest text to explain why I can't just grab the dude by his belt and take off with him? Hell, I'm strong enough to load him into a car and then carry THAT. Maybe make the prosecutor afraid of heights. The asian girl could be preggers or something. I don't know.
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09-02-2009, 02:06 AM
I recognize that for game balance purposes its necessary for escort mission NPCs to be slow and follow a stupid circuitous path, but for the purposes of immersion, could they at least stop waving at the enemy in such a jaunty, friendly manner? Maybe have them do a scared animation so they do a little tiptoe thing instead.
I'm escorting this lawyer or whatever and the dude honestly looks like he thinks he's at a PARADE! This is not a photo op, moron, there are people with bats and guns after you, MOVE YOUR PASTY WHITE-COLLAR ASS!!!
While you're at it, could you maybe add something to the quest text to explain why I can't just grab the dude by his belt and take off with him? Hell, I'm strong enough to load him into a car and then carry THAT. Maybe make the prosecutor afraid of heights. The asian girl could be preggers or something. I don't know.
This is something that's been bothering me, but I've been too lazy to post about. I agree with the sentiment, but I'll go one step further.
Why is it necessary to have escort missions (at least this style) in this game at all? Yeah, we're all used to them at this point, but still. This is a game about super heroes. Your escort missions don't cut it here, like omechron mentioned - my character can fly, is strong enough to lift up an army transport, but no, let me walk patiently behind you, old lady McGee, while you wander out of harm's way in your own good time. Bull***t.
You want to have escort missions? Fine.
"(Hero), the MCPD needs your help! We're transporting (Villain) to a federal maximum-security facility upstate. We need you to keep an eye on the convoy to the city limits - our informants tell us (Villain)'s entire gang is getting ready to try to spring him/her in transit. Keep sharp, they're bound to have set up an ambush or two along the way."
There's your escort mission.
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09-02-2009, 03:26 AM
Schlockstar for next quest design job opening please.
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09-02-2009, 03:27 AM
Although I did quite enjoy the escort mission with the suicidal cop from outside the jail. There's a man who puts iron filings in his breakfast cereal.
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09-02-2009, 03:39 AM
This is something that's been bothering me, but I've been too lazy to post about. I agree with the sentiment, but I'll go one step further.
Why is it necessary to have escort missions (at least this style) in this game at all? Yeah, we're all used to them at this point, but still. This is a game about super heroes. Your escort missions don't cut it here, like omechron mentioned - my character can fly, is strong enough to lift up an army transport, but no, let me walk patiently behind you, old lady McGee, while you wander out of harm's way in your own good time. Bull***t.
You want to have escort missions? Fine.
"(Hero), the MCPD needs your help! We're transporting (Villain) to a federal maximum-security facility upstate. We need you to keep an eye on the convoy to the city limits - our informants tell us (Villain)'s entire gang is getting ready to try to spring him/her in transit. Keep sharp, they're bound to have set up an ambush or two along the way."
There's your escort mission.Good god this, i shouldn't need to escort that scientist down the mountain, i should just be able to pick him up and set him down somewhere else.
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09-02-2009, 03:51 AM
Good god this, i shouldn't need to escort that scientist down the mountain, i should just be able to pick him up and set him down somewhere else.
Agreed! Although, to make it a little less "Pick up and carry damsel (or gent) in distress from Point A to Point B", it should be just a touch more challenging. Should I get ambushed along the way by a random mob or a scripted one, I should have to set the rescued citizen down. Otherwise, I'll only fight at something like 40-60% my normal effectiveness (with maybe 75-85% my normal defensiveness), because I'm considered "distracted" by having to carry and protect a citizen while trying to battle a henchman or villain.
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09-02-2009, 04:02 AM
Well perhaps we could play in a comic book world but gosh darn it, not all Superheroes are Super all the time
Why can't we be forced to play as normals who have to climb the tree instead as we try to protect our Identity... oh yeah because that's lame and people want to be in costume.
We have escort missions like those because unlike your comic book, my comic book has people who don't use their superpowers to resolve all problems, they you the most powerful power any hero has his, HEART.
It is sappy and 'ghey' but I'm still waiting for the mission to rescue a cat from a tree without using flight.
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09-02-2009, 04:05 AM
I'd be alright with not being able to fight at all while carrying a civilian, but that might just be me.
Also, a big YES to schlockstar's ideas and similar ones. Things like 'please escort this experimental tank to a testing range' or 'please protect Radium Rick while he soaks up the ambient radiation in the area'. A bit of imagination applied to escort missions would make a world of difference.
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09-02-2009, 04:10 AM
I have to agree...I am ok if i have to invent a harness to strap anyone in on my back and rocket boot my butt off of the mountain. I must say these civilians do have a lot of gall to walk around with psychotic killers like its a Sunday stroll.
If you think about it, in high school my little pasty butt walked tall with half the football team behind me. It could just be the lead filings that someone mentioned that they eat for breakfast...
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09-02-2009, 04:31 AM
This is something that's been bothering me, but I've been too lazy to post about. I agree with the sentiment, but I'll go one step further.
Why is it necessary to have escort missions (at least this style) in this game at all? Yeah, we're all used to them at this point, but still. This is a game about super heroes. Your escort missions don't cut it here, like omechron mentioned - my character can fly, is strong enough to lift up an army transport, but no, let me walk patiently behind you, old lady McGee, while you wander out of harm's way in your own good time. Bull***t.
You want to have escort missions? Fine.
"(Hero), the MCPD needs your help! We're transporting (Villain) to a federal maximum-security facility upstate. We need you to keep an eye on the convoy to the city limits - our informants tell us (Villain)'s entire gang is getting ready to try to spring him/her in transit. Keep sharp, they're bound to have set up an ambush or two along the way."
There's your escort mission.
Well, if your hero can fly and is strong enough to pick up an armoured transport, then really - he could just carry the armoured vehicle to the prison as well, no need for a convoy! :P
But good points, it did seem a little odd that whenever you had to go into an area to "save" someone, they'd happily and quite slowly prance their way to the end marker - and if you disregard their speech bubbles it'd more often than not seem like a happy stroll rather than an adrenaline filled getaway from blood-thirsty henchmen.
It's a weird compromise i guess between the super hero world and the main stream MMO quest types.
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09-02-2009, 05:25 AM
Well perhaps we could play in a comic book world but gosh darn it, not all Superheroes are Super all the time
Why can't we be forced to play as normals who have to climb the tree instead as we try to protect our Identity... oh yeah because that's lame and people want to be in costume.
We have escort missions like those because unlike your comic book, my comic book has people who don't use their superpowers to resolve all problems, they you the most powerful power any hero has his, HEART.
It is sappy and 'ghey' but I'm still waiting for the mission to rescue a cat from a tree without using flight.
Yeah well, how many copies does your comic book sell per issue? Unlike your comic book, my comic book has heroes who use the most powerful power any person has: their MIND. When automatic weapon fire and molotov cocktails are flying around with a civilian who needs to be protected from such, your heart is going to get that mundane a quick trip to a steel slab (complete with fashionable, personalized toe tag). Go link up with the MCFD and rescue cats from trees. The rest of us will deal with global threats that mundanes can't take on without extreme loss of life. The cops love us because we help them get to their families at night, breathing and in one piece. Often that requires the use of the very thing that separates us from them (gee, wonder what that is?). Having a civilian with a death mark on his head saunter about as if this were New Orleans on Fat Tuesday, seems just a bit odd. If that civilian were your mother/father/sister/brother/husband/wife, you'd want that hero to use their powers to get them back safely. Better you have a bleeding heart over using your powers to accomplish a goal than an entire family having to plan a "homegoing service" because you want to use "heart".
(Mind you, I see what you're saying and to a point, I agree. Variety is good in an MMO. But, I'm pretty sure the vast majority of people playing this game didn't create their characters because Muffin or Patches is stuck in a tree. Besides, it would be awfully incongruous to have someone ask you, a SUPER HERO, to rescue a cat from a tree. Do superheroes not have anything better or more important to do in this city?)