Leveling is pretty fubar

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To be blunt, the leveling and missions don't match up properly. Before today's nerf it wasn't really that big of a deal b/c I could pretty easily do missions that were 3 levels above me so I didn't even pay any mind to it. Now I'm level 21, all the missions that are offered to me are level 24/25. Before there were mildly difficult but fun, now, with my damage nerfs and the baddies increased damage, they are just a pain and I would very much like to be doing missions my own level.

Before anyone asks, yes I've done all the available ones in MC and desert, now I'm working on the lowbie ones in Canada since all the others are 24/25. I even did the crime computer ones for a while to see if that would help but there's not many of those.

I don't know what I did wrong as others have said they didn't run into this issue but every mission I'm offered is 3 levels over me. Someone really needs to work on the balance of missions to level if todays changes are permanent.

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To be blunt, the leveling and missions don't match up properly. Before today's nerf it wasn't really that big of a deal b/c I could pretty easily do missions that were 3 levels above me so I didn't even pay any mind to it. Now I'm level 21, all the missions that are offered to me are level 24/25. Before there were mildly difficult but fun, now, with my damage nerfs and the baddies increased damage, they are just a pain and I would very much like to be doing missions my own level.

Before anyone asks, yes I've done all the available ones in MC and desert, now I'm working on the lowbie ones in Canada since all the others are 24/25. I even did the crime computer ones for a while to see if that would help but there's not many of those.

I don't know what I did wrong as others have said they didn't run into this issue but every mission I'm offered is 3 levels over me. Someone really needs to work on the balance of missions to level if todays changes are permanent.

I'm guessing the really bright guys (LAUGH) Missed that point. It's okay to be balanced against 3 even con mobs.... when you can actually FIND THEM.

The humanity is killing me.

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Nope, you did everything right.

At 22-26 my real life friend and I were constantly doing quests higher than us, and that was before TODAYS EXP nerf.

Now we are 28, and refuse to touch our characters.

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Nope, you did everything right.

At 22-26 my real life friend and I were constantly doing quests higher than us, and that was before TODAYS EXP nerf.

Now we are 28, and refuse to touch our characters.

I wonder how that differences appear, im 30.8 or so now and never had a real gap. I did all missions available in canada, desert and mc now, including all crime computer mission and every mission a contact offers in the emergencies. The only missions open now are MI and later some more in canada (too high atm) and the 5 man missions i didn't do yet.

I hope the will add the missing contacts to the emergencies, like the spirit of ravensomething or whatever that guys in canada is called. For now it looks ok, but many already said that you will run out of missions long before 40, especially now with the big reduction in quest XP that isn't compensated for.

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Did you always do missions at your level or where you forced to do missions from higher levels (getting useless rewards)? I had to do higher level quests constantly constatly since about level 17.

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I ran out of missions at 31 and had to grind out on PQs to 32. Throughout the whole leveling up process to 31 I was always doing quests 2-3-4 levels above me, there just isn't enough quests.

Do they honestly want you to do the 5 quests for your level, then grind the rest out on a PQ. Do the next 5 go back to the PQ, etc etc cause it would work but what a gd boring way to level. They need to double their current content in all honesty.

Which can be done quite easily via the crime computer and putting in random door missions like that for every level. It seemed to just shut off in the mid 20's.

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After all the XP tweaking and coming into the release, there were gaps. Now they have lowered the quest xp even more. Sigh! They said they raised mob xp, but I wonder if it was enough that you could actually grind out a couple levels so that you can attempt the next tier of quests that are +2 or +3. Any thoughts?

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My main is only 20 but no sign of a mission shortage yet. I still have the following level missions:

Desert
1 x 18
2 x 19
5 x 20

MC
2 x 19
1 x 20

I've not done any grinding of mobs but had about 5 citizen given missions.

I have noticed that the mission path isn't linear (shock horror ;) ) but if I was somewhere doing another mission, or just flying between mission givers/rewards that I'd suddenly spot a ! on the mini-map. Sometimes it would be a single mission other times a whole series of them. So for those of you short on missions I'd suggest looking around.

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I made a thread about this last night but I suck at making threads so it got no replies. So I'll reply to yours.

I'm lvl 22, I have several missions in my journal but I cant solo them. When I try to find or form a group I dont have much luck. People better start grouping up more.

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I'm 28 since saturday and, so far, only leveled through missions.

There are no gaps if you switch from Canada to Desert to MC. But you have to keep switching, it's not like you can do the whole "quest line" at a time.

Oh, I forgot: I did the repeatable quest in Canada 5 times, the prison PQ in MC twice and the PQ in the far east of MC 3 times.

That's all :\

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At some points, namely int he early thirties and again in the late 30s (Including pretty much the entirety of 39), you inevitably run out of missions, and the Crime Computer gives you no info to deal with that. It'd be nice to see the Devs at least acknowledge this problem.

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I was in the same spot for a while. For all of levels 21 and 22, I was doing quests that were, at a minimum, 2 levels above me. It was pretty annoying, but since I'm doing a tank build, I could get through it.

The issue mentioned in the OP occurred to me. Unless they add more quest content, then they've just made leveling a lot harder for some characters. Soloing with a munitions build was already tough. I haven't tried it yet under the new nerfing, but I imagine that some DPS builds will have to mob grind out a few levels in there.

Moar missions! ;)

Actually, it would be nice if we could just repeat all of the "door missions" as much as we want. That would help.

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I'm lvl 22 and I cant find lvl 22 missions. All I can find are lvl 24 missions in canada and the desert.

And I cant solo them.

And I cant find groups.

I could do timed missions, btu I dont like those.

I guess Ill start a new character.

If someone can point me to a lvl 22 mission chain, plz do so. Thanks.

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My main is only 20 but no sign of a mission shortage yet. I still have the following level missions:

Desert
1 x 18
2 x 19
5 x 20

MC
2 x 19
1 x 20

I've not done any grinding of mobs but had about 5 citizen given missions.

I have noticed that the mission path isn't linear (shock horror ;) ) but if I was somewhere doing another mission, or just flying between mission givers/rewards that I'd suddenly spot a ! on the mini-map. Sometimes it would be a single mission other times a whole series of them. So for those of you short on missions I'd suggest looking around.

That's awesome, because we have the same quests available. Except I don't see the level 20 quests because I'm only 16 :( If we get the same % of xp when you finish ALL those quest you will have gained 1.5 levels.

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I managed to get to MI before running out of quests of my level, but this was doing every single mission I could find and soloing some of the 2 or 3 man missions which gave me a boost to xp. No I'm on monster Island I've shelved this character as I'm now starting to have to do quests above my level and with the new damage changes, I'm getting creamed.

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I'm 28 since saturday and, so far, only leveled through missions.

There are no gaps if you switch from Canada to Desert to MC. But you have to keep switching, it's not like you can do the whole "quest line" at a time.

Oh, I forgot: I did the repeatable quest in Canada 5 times, the prison PQ in MC twice and the PQ in the far east of MC 3 times.

That's all :\

Yeah I am switching around, I've went back to MC and Desert multiple times looking for missions, I did find some way out in an area of the desert that the game hasn't sent me too yet, but even those were 3 levels above me. I'm not having the issue of not finding missions, at least not yet, just not finding any that are my level. With the changes they made the other day, doing the ones 3 levels above me is substantially harder now and often I waste a lot of time dieing before I get it done, if I get it done and that's just boring and annoying so I want content my own level. I don't really have a huge problem with them making the game more difficult in that patch but if they're going to do that they need to have the content in place to support it. Going against super villans and master villans that are 3 levels above you is suicide. Hell even a group with just 2 villans in it will push your health pool add in the crazy cross aggro and it's just ridiculous.

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ditto for me, in OB and headstart, i could come out of canada/desert at about 15, do the stuff on the west side of MC, and be at snake gulch for 18. i started a character yesterday after the patch, and now i'm in snake gulch at barely 17, and everything's a right pain. it's not the defensives nerf that bothers me, i quite like the challenge of dealing with mobs that are yellow/orange. it's the thought that i might run out of missions in canada at 22 and be stuck.

i thought the mission xp was fine during headstart. dunno why it's been lowered but i hope it gets changed back.

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I am at 14 and just gone through Desert (Completed as far as I can tell everything I find including the tutorial where I also done the Canada missions.) The problem I think is direction, if they directed you to canada or if your there back to the desert ay level 10 you wouldn't feel like the lowbie missions in the other are such a bore and grind and not want to do them.

The problem with missions atm is there to hard for your level to solo but then to easy when you have a group.

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I have the same problem. I'm lvl 23 and all my missions are 25+. I've done all the crime computer and even some of the repeatable ones.

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Well right now my Wife is 31 and needs about 300k to level to 32 and has exhausted all possible missions except for 2 in MC that have been bugged for the last few days. Does somebody equate in cryptic equate a challenge with killing 4000 mobs? This change is really upsetting. It screwed up the curve in beta and now they broke it here.

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For my main (Lorriette) I started out in Canada Crisis. By the time I left the Tutorial I was about 7. Got to about 9 ish in the Crisis and then did the missions there. When I hit 13 or so, I went and did the quests in The Desert. May seem pointless, but hear me out. Although they are small XP rewards, they are easy to do, and quick.

Lvl 15 saw me do the quests in Millennium City. Did that till I was about 19. Good thing to do is use the Crime Computer. Last night I have 5 e-mails from SOCRETES asking me to come help with missions there. After a few Citezen missions and Bank Missions too, that got me to 20.

lvl 20 sent me back to The Desert, and around Snake Gulch. Finished that area for about 23 ish, back to Millennium to finish off the 20 ish quests and then off to Canada. Hit 25 by the time gpt to the ARGENT place in Canada.

I have not grinded any mobs either (save a few RobotCowboys for Snake Bucks) but I seem to be doing ok. I say this as I am levelling 6 other characters too, all in the 15 area ;)

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My GF and I have been grouping together since we started, we're now level 16 (close to 17) and we're only getting level 19 quests. Since we got into MC at 13, we've been doing quests 2 levels above our current level the entire time. We've also been getting item rewards we aren't able to use when we finish the quests.

XP for 13+ still seems fairly broken, there needs to be more 13 to 16 content - all we have now are level 10 stuff in the desert and level 18+ stuff in MC. Is this how the entire game will run? Always 2 to 3 levels behind the quests we're doing?

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I seemed to be doing ok with missions up until now, I never did anything that was more than one level above me (Bear in mind that this was during headstart and yesterday so before the XP nerf again I think), but now I have hit level 32 I seem to have come to a complete standstill.

I have done every single quests I can find in every area and now the only quests available to me are for Lv 35., and with the changes to defensive powers and Henchmen suddenly hitting me like a truck, I do not even want to try and turtle my way through any of those, hoping I can get a Pyre off before I die and then blocking for another few minutes till my health regens.

I just have absolutely no idea what to do with my character at the moment. I wouldn't even mind grinding out a few levels if it didn't make me want to stab myself in the eye out of frustration.

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My main is only 20 but no sign of a mission shortage yet. I still have the following level missions:

Desert
1 x 18
2 x 19
5 x 20

MC
2 x 19
1 x 20

I've not done any grinding of mobs but had about 5 citizen given missions.

I have noticed that the mission path isn't linear (shock horror ;) ) but if I was somewhere doing another mission, or just flying between mission givers/rewards that I'd suddenly spot a ! on the mini-map. Sometimes it would be a single mission other times a whole series of them. So for those of you short on missions I'd suggest looking around.

Shut the **** up. You have no idea how brutally boring it is at level 31.

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I seemed to be doing ok with missions up until now, I never did anything that was more than one level above me (Bear in mind that this was during headstart and yesterday so before the XP nerf again I think), but now I have hit level 32 I seem to have come to a complete standstill.

I have done every single quests I can find in every area and now the only quests available to me are for Lv 35., and with the changes to defensive powers and Henchmen suddenly hitting me like a truck, I do not even want to try and turtle my way through any of those, hoping I can get a Pyre off before I die and then blocking for another few minutes till my health regens.

I just have absolutely no idea what to do with my character at the moment. I wouldn't even mind grinding out a few levels if it didn't make me want to stab myself in the eye out of frustration.

Same boat. At L33 and 208k exp to go for next level. Done all the L34 quests with only having L35 missions available to me now on Monster Isle, Canada and Lamania (sp). I won't do them as I can see It will just put me deeper in a hole with the next levels.

Sorry but there just is not enough content for the current exp rate. Grinding is not my idea of fun either.

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Shut the **** up. You have no idea how brutally boring it is at level 31.
I just hit 31 (may be a bar or two in).

Haven't touched any of the MI missions yet and I still have some stuff to do in MC. Haven't done Stronghold Prison, Dr. Destroyer's Factory, Teleios' Tower or Burial Caves yet.

I have done whatever I could find, including the citizen/patrol missions in Canada, Desert and from Socrates' mails. Not the ones from random MC citizens, those are horrible xp.

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Yup i hit the lack of mission problem at level 30 in monster island. I have exclusively done solo missions or group of 2 max missions. I only have Group 5 missions left on my crime computer and i have done literally two PQs in monster island and gotten very bored of waiting for it to re-spawn.

Tbh i am not going to grind XP, i have better things to do with my time than working real hard killing 1000s of npcs to get the next level and also the whole patrolling for random NPCs in new world content, is just too boring to carry on doing for a whole level.

This is a problem if i have missions gaps, since i am normally quiet good at leveling in mmorpgs.

Tbh this level gap problem is reminding me of Auto Assault, which lacked content. The XP nerf has not helped but i have this feeling it would be the same thing anyway, just to a lesser degree.

We need more random door missions like the paper missions introduced in CoH, where players who have run out of story arcs can go do paper missions to level up (if they like to do missions). I personally will avoid PvP since its not my style and grinding is not for me, since i don't listen to house music and drink redbull energy drinks every 30minutes.

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I'll pipe in here, since I just hit lvl 23 and have run into similar situations. I still have quests but they are all about 3 or more levels high. I have gone all over the place looking for new ones and tried the crime computer.

Most of the players are calling for more content. I agree with this to a point. I do think that you should have enough content to reasonably run from 1 to 40 doing nothing but missions. I do not believe there needs to be a plethora of variety in this though.

The variety needs to be in other areas of gameplay if the game is to succeed.

Group content is essential. I mean really make something worth having a group for, and something that a group can be sustainable for a good long while, at all levels. Making the narrow but effective solo quest path will satisfy the soloers, but if you don't have true group content then you don't have an MMO.

Suggestions:
Make the quests more involved for the solo players, so that there is a mix of kills and quest reward. As it stands, if you only kill what is required for the quest you only kill a handful of mobs usually.

or

Add more quests, and repeatable quests, that allow the player to continue to work the quest xp as much as necessary.

For group content, there simply needs to be more things in the game at all levels that require a group, or at least are more efficient/beneficial with a group. Quest sharing is one option. If all quests were shareable, at least for xp then you would have something.

The public quests are great, but as many have said, they need better execution to really be worthwhile. Door missions with BIG BADDIES inside, that are actually very involved and deep would be ideal. A dungeon type zone for every 5 levels from say 10 to 40 would be perfect. Maybe these things exists late game I don't know but that's all I have to say about that.

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What also makes me laugh a bit is the fact that i am now trying to grind out the remaining XP required to level, on some purple con mobs, but they reward me the same amount of XP as the even con mobs i was killing earlier. For extra effort you get no reward.

The henchman especially it is noticeable, just killed a group of level 38 henchman with the old block technique took a little while, but when they died they yielded the same amount of XP as henchman at level 32.

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What also makes me laugh a bit is the fact that i am now trying to grind out the remaining XP required to level, on some purple con mobs, but they reward me the same amount of XP as the even con mobs i was killing earlier. For extra effort you get no reward.

The henchman especially it is noticeable, just killed a group of level 38 henchman with the old block technique took a little while, but when they died they yielded the same amount of XP as henchman at level 32.

That is disheartening to say the least. I am sure it will all get worked out in the end but yeah that's a tad extreme. Has anyone else noticed that it seems like the level curve is/was really fast. I mean someone posted that they were lvl 40 Saturday. I really don't think that we should be leveling THAT fast! No one want's a boring grind, we want an exciting grind. But that doesn't mean you need to make leveling trivial by allowing max levels attainable w/o PLing in as little as a day. Seems extreme. CoX could be very fast xp with PLing but even that was not as fast as this seems to be. I could be wrong.

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I hit 32 today. Only doing missions, no grinding no repeatable missions. I did Monster Island Crisis at 31 but only moved into Monster Island proper now at 32. Just did the first round of Ironclad Missions, got two bubbles that way. If the missions here are enough to get me to 34 I'll be happy as at 34 I am planning to do the Lemuria Crisis and also would like to try the half dozen 35er missions I already have waiting for me in Canada.