Reminder: Lifetime Subscriptions

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Today is your last chance to purchase the Lifetime and 6-month subscriptions! At 11:59PM, we're pulling the plug for the last time. Check out the Exclusive Specials (http://www.champions-online.com/exclusive_specials) page for the details about each subscription and grab them before they're gone for good.


Link to the news article. (http://www.champions-online.com/node/467033)

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Thanks for letting us know Daeke, Nice to see something going good.

And I'd love to abuse this offer but sadly, i don't have a cred card, Only Paypal at the moment, Sadly, other payment options are not being used.

Either way, I'll see you in-game :D

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Limiting these subscription options so severely is really user unfriendly, IMO.

The beta wasn't that long, and I'll be a lot of people would rather play for a couple of months before committing to a 6 month or lifetime subscription. Taking that option away before the game even goes gold is not a good move.

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Limiting these subscription options so severely is really user unfriendly, IMO.

The beta wasn't that long, and I'll be a lot of people would rather play for a couple of months before committing to a 6 month or lifetime subscription. Taking that option away before the game even goes gold is not a good move.

from what I understand you'll still be able to get a 6 month sub after today, it just wont be quite as discounted or have neat perks with it

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Personally I don't think it's remotely fair to offer this BEFORE the game is available to some people, and to discontinue it on the official launch day is just sad. I'm sure the marketing dept. had something to do with it.

The way I see it is this, and if you read the fine print you'll see a statement that there's no guarantee the game will be available online for any length of time. It may not even last 12 months, let alone long enough for the two hundred dollar "lifetime" subscription to be worthwhile. Hellgate: London had a lifetime offer, and it folded this year. There's no more online service. The same thing could easily happen here.

If you'd extend that offer for the first 3 months after launch you might get a lot more people purchasing the lifetime subscription, or if you guaranteed service for at least 2 years. A hundred per year isn't a great deal, but it's acceptable.

But that's not what you want. You want a huge, quick influx of money. 200 bucks from a few thousand players is a lot of cash. You're railroading some people who see it as a deal into buying it when they're not even sure they'll enjoy the game, they may not get 200 dollars worth out of it.

I may be one potential customer who would consider, after being able to play the game for a while, buying a permanent subscription. I don't want to do it with a game I'm not even sure I'll enjoy. . . and something that may only last a year.

I don't mean to sound so negative, the game looks great and I'll probably give it a shot. It's just that if I like it after a few months I would buy the lifetime subscription. . . as it stands I might grab 3 to 6 months, tops. I don't like shelling out money monthly. It's your loss though, not mine.

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Wait, what?! Why ending it so soon? I won't get my paycheck until the 19:th, and can't afford Lifetime yet. That's not fair at all.
You should at least let it run through September aswell to let new users get a chance to at least test out the game before rushing off a decision.

People like me, who never got to try the open beta due to lack of info, just can't decide like that, and you have to understand that. Really, really bad style. I won't get the game until... 14+ hours from now when it gets released on D2D.

I don't see why you would limit the lifetime stuff already. Again, as I said, it is unfair. I would like of you to reconcider, and at least let it run through September aswell.

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the 6 month is coming back right after this but at a higher price point. The lifetime is what is leaving and it should. Lifetimes are basically a special product they are not something they make money off of. It is more of a rare offer for fans. I personally think they were way too generous bringing it back the second time. Especially for the reasons given, But I wont go back there because the flames will start. They brought it back and were very detailed on it ending . Lets all let them end it this time. Trying to push them into keeping it open again is starting to get greedy since they make nothing on them. Any longer is honestly quite rude. Thanks guys for extending it for those who were unable to afford them during the orginal buy period but you guys did your good deed slay the green evil monster and move on intio release. Yeah you cannot keep assuming yhour game is going to be around all the tinme. I think it will but you never know. No offense inteded also you have roughly more then a month to decide and 2 weeks in game. This game is not that complicated to have that big of a decision to weigh on. If yiou cannot decide in that tkime frame you really are not a big fan of the game and that is really who the lifetimes are aimed at. its not some right you are somehow entitled to get its a reward for being a fan take in time frame allowed or leave it.

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Wait, what?! Why ending it so soon? I won't get my paycheck until the 19:th, and can't afford Lifetime yet. That's not fair at all.
You should at least let it run through September aswell to let new users get a chance to at least test out the game before rushing off a decision. People like me, who never got to try the open beta due to lack of info, just can't decide like that, and you have to understand that. Really, really bad style. I won't get the game until... 14+ hours from now when it gets released on D2D. I don't see why you would limit the lifetime stuff already. Again, as I said, it is unfair. I would like of you to reconcider, and at least let it run through September aswell.

:rolleyes: "Here we go again..."

:confused: "Is this a joke? ... your lack of smilie faces or '/sarcasm' is deeply alarming..."

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:rolleyes: "Here we go again..."

:confused: "Is this a joke? ... your lack of smilie faces or '/sarcasm' is deeply alarming..."



Someone has been here since... Feb 2008.

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You'll never please everyone and there will always be a situations that isn't optimal for everyone, be it timing, situation etc.

Thanks for all the hard work guys, looking forward to the official launch!

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In six months, a year at the most, every single person who didn't buy a lifetime sub is going to be very happy they didn't.

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Personally I don't think it's remotely fair to offer this BEFORE the game is available to some people, and to discontinue it on the official launch day is just sad. I'm sure the marketing dept. had something to do with it.

The way I see it is this, and if you read the fine print you'll see a statement that there's no guarantee the game will be available online for any length of time. It may not even last 12 months, let alone long enough for the two hundred dollar "lifetime" subscription to be worthwhile. Hellgate: London had a lifetime offer, and it folded this year. There's no more online service. The same thing could easily happen here.

If you'd extend that offer for the first 3 months after launch you might get a lot more people purchasing the lifetime subscription, or if you guaranteed service for at least 2 years. A hundred per year isn't a great deal, but it's acceptable.

But that's not what you want. You want a huge, quick influx of money. 200 bucks from a few thousand players is a lot of cash. You're railroading some people who see it as a deal into buying it when they're not even sure they'll enjoy the game, they may not get 200 dollars worth out of it.

I may be one potential customer who would consider, after being able to play the game for a while, buying a permanent subscription. I don't want to do it with a game I'm not even sure I'll enjoy. . . and something that may only last a year.

I don't mean to sound so negative, the game looks great and I'll probably give it a shot. It's just that if I like it after a few months I would buy the lifetime subscription. . . as it stands I might grab 3 to 6 months, tops. I don't like shelling out money monthly. It's your loss though, not mine.

None of this made any sence, you had ample time to get in on the deal (And a hell of a lot of time if you pre'd the open beta). I could understand if they didnt return the original 9/1 deal but they did, gave full perks with it and lastly withought supply limit. They honored there deal and should be praised not scolded because people want to try the game out for 3-5 months to see if they want to get a life plan. And its your loss if you dont see how awesome this game is.

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" In six months, a year at the most, every single person who didn't buy a lifetime sub is going to be very happy they didn't. "

and why is that?

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This is ridiculous.

Quit your complaining.

The devs went to bat for us on this one after Atari made the boneheaded move of pulling the option WELL before the originally-intended closing time.

I, personally, am grateful that the devs did it. They didn't have to, and the simple fact that they stuck their necks out on this one is a good sign. All the whining going on is really beginning to bother me. There's a lot of people who are getting their knickers in a wad over the tiniest of details, and while I can honestly say I can't agree with every change the devs have made, but overall, they've taken a setting that I love dearly and turned it into something that is MUCH greater.

Whining and complaining because they're ending the discounted 6-month and lifetime sub options on the date they were supposed to end originally is like complaining that someone won't honor an expired coupon at the checkout line in the grocery store.

GET OVER IT.

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In six months, a year at the most, every single person who didn't buy a lifetime sub is going to be very happy they didn't.

Wow. I really can't argue your point as you have supported it with such a strong series of concrete facts. You were obviously the captain of an Ivy League debate team.

Or perhaps you are simply bitter and arrogant.

In six months, a year at the most, every single person who read your quote will be able to decide for themselves which is true. Of course by then you'll have moved on to trolling "The Smurfs Online" because you don't think it's fair that every Smurf is blue.

Make a point or make a point of not saying anything.

Oh...and thanks Cryptic for being open, communicative and responsive to your community. The lifetime subscription offer is generous and relatively unprecedented (yeah, yeah, Hellgate:London...I know) and those of us who were able to take advantage of the offer will likely still think it was a great deal in six months or a year.

Have a great day everyone.

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Im' not sure if I did this way too late, but I just did a pre-order, and I didn't get a pre-order key code, and I realy want that lifetime membership.

Let me guess, I'm screwed?

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If it wasn't for the Lifetime subscription offer, I probably wouldn't be playing CO. That, and the promise of gamepad support in the near future.

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Today is your last chance to purchase the Lifetime and 6-month subscriptions! At 11:59PM, we're pulling the plug for the last time. Check out the Exclusive Specials (http://www.champions-online.com/exclusive_specials) page for the details about each subscription and grab them before they're gone for good.


Link to the news article. (http://www.champions-online.com/node/467033)

this is too bad. I wanted the lifetime subscription but I'm broke at the moment. Cryptic is lucky I scraped together the money for the preorder. Guess I'll save up and get a lifetime sub for another game *hint m-f'in hint*

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Im' not sure if I did this way too late, but I just did a pre-order, and I didn't get a pre-order key code, and I realy want that lifetime membership.

Let me guess, I'm screwed?

You aren't too late! Get the lifetime now! You have a few hours left! Go go gogogogo!

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Im' not sure if I did this way too late, but I just did a pre-order, and I didn't get a pre-order key code, and I realy want that lifetime membership.

Let me guess, I'm screwed?

Pre-orders are for the game, lifetimes are for the subs. The former will be through the retailers, the latter is with Atari/Cryptic on this site.

Hope this helps.

Edit: just re-read and realise you probably understand this, the prob is that your code for subbing isn't in.

Try contacting customer service and explain the situation. Maybe they can help.

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I think that the ppl who took advantage of the 6month offer should be offered later on down the road, a chance at a lifetime subscription. Just a thought

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I think that the ppl who took advantage of the 6month offer should be offered later on down the road, a chance at a lifetime subscription. Just a thought

Why not just offer it nonstop? This month you might get a number of people who buy it, next month the same. In the meanwhile everyone else is still paying monthly.

I think cryptic is going to offer it again in a month or so saying 'it was such a sucres that they just had to do it again'.

The only reason I think they put a time limit on it is to get people to scrounge up the money for a lifetime sub in hopes of making some money. Mmorpgs can be so volitile these days and players buy the game, live it for 2 months and then never play again. The developers know that a number of those types of people will jump at the opportunity to get 6 months of play at a reduced rate just in case we stick with the game.

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Thank you very much for bringing back Lifetime through the rest of the originally stated period. I'm p. shocked people are STILL complaining but thanks to your bringing it back, several of my friends were able to get in on the deal. Thank you very much!!

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They may offer it again as an anniversary bonus (like LOTRO did) but I doubt it will become a common occurance.

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I'd be nice if they allowed us to buy it at a later date.

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I got mine today, I figured since I helped argue the point as to why it should be re-instated I may as well buy one. I really hope I don't regret the Lifetime membership :)

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Personally I don't think it's remotely fair to offer this BEFORE the game is available to some people, and to discontinue it on the official launch day is just sad. I'm sure the marketing dept. had something to do with it.

The way I see it is this, and if you read the fine print you'll see a statement that there's no guarantee the game will be available online for any length of time. It may not even last 12 months, let alone long enough for the two hundred dollar "lifetime" subscription to be worthwhile. Hellgate: London had a lifetime offer, and it folded this year. There's no more online service. The same thing could easily happen here.

If you'd extend that offer for the first 3 months after launch you might get a lot more people purchasing the lifetime subscription, or if you guaranteed service for at least 2 years. A hundred per year isn't a great deal, but it's acceptable.

But that's not what you want. You want a huge, quick influx of money. 200 bucks from a few thousand players is a lot of cash. You're railroading some people who see it as a deal into buying it when they're not even sure they'll enjoy the game, they may not get 200 dollars worth out of it.

I may be one potential customer who would consider, after being able to play the game for a while, buying a permanent subscription. I don't want to do it with a game I'm not even sure I'll enjoy. . . and something that may only last a year.

I don't mean to sound so negative, the game looks great and I'll probably give it a shot. It's just that if I like it after a few months I would buy the lifetime subscription. . . as it stands I might grab 3 to 6 months, tops. I don't like shelling out money monthly. It's your loss though, not mine.
You dont understand it lol if this game last for about 2 years, lifetime soubscripers will basically play for free since that.... thats why its limited and is offering before launch, becouse its extremly disadvantage for devs lol..

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In six months, a year at the most, every single person who didn't buy a lifetime sub is going to be very happy they didn't.

Can I change that a little bit? like:

In six months, a year at the most, every single person who didn't buy a lifetime sub is going to be very sad they didn't.


I'm sorry man, but the game is awsome. If you like the genre of course...

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Whew, got in just under the wire to pick up my lifetime subscription.

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To anyone who complains either in this thread or after the Lifetime subs have ceased:

You had TWO chances to get your funds together and pay for a lifetime subscription. Fortune favors the brave, not the stingy.

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To anyone who complains either in this thread or after the Lifetime subs have ceased:

You had TWO chances to get your funds together and pay for a lifetime subscription. Fortune favors the brave, not the stingy.


Nah. Some of us have more important things to pay for than lifetime subscriptions to a video game. I, for one have no intention of sitting in front of my computer fir the rest of my life. Don't :eek: get me wrong. I like the game, but my savings is more important to me. By saying I'm broke, I meant that I hadn't allocated spending money for this. I didn't even know the game existed until about 2 weeks ago. I budget my money a lot more wisely than most people and I don't have 270$ to spend on entertainment. As it is the game pushed my budget for the month.

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In six months, a year at the most, every single person who didn't buy a lifetime sub is going to be very happy they didn't.

Really? Because if you plan to sub this game for 2 - 4 years like most people play mmos. You end up saving alot of cash.

15$ x 12 = 180$ x 4 = 720$ for subbing for 4 years at 15$ a month subtract 200$ and you just saved yourself 520$

Seems like a pretty good deal if you ask me. Especially with how todays economy is.

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Wow, we're really getting heated up over this aren't we? Well, might as well throw in my two cents:

Without knowing the exact amount of time that MMO's last, I can't say that buying the lifetime subscription is/isn't completely worth it, but, mathematically, it does save money within under two years.

I'm sad I wasn't able to scrounge up enough money to get the subscription myself, but someone brought up a point earlier that I feel inclined to agree with:

"I may be one potential customer who would consider, after being able to play the game for a while, buying a permanent subscription. I don't want to do it with a game I'm not even sure I'll enjoy. . . and something that may only last a year."

Two hundred dollars is a gamble in this situation (not to mention, a grand sum of money to those that have to really try hard to earn it), especially when the game hasn't even lifted off the ground as far as being open to the public. We don't know how popular it's going to be, how much support it will get, or how far it will go in the long run. It feels like the entire deal was exclusively for those fortunate enough to get in on the beta, and even then, some people were only able to play for a small part of the beta (I myself haven't sufficiently tested the game out). Although I see the reasoning behind the theory of "the offer can potentially cripple the company since they're being overly generous", I feel a little inclined to say that any gaming company wouldn't completely risk their neck to appeal to the public, especially if a similar mistake was made before (apparently there was a Hellgate London incident)? I think that this branch from CoH/V has enough support that it wont go diving under at the first sense of pressure, and that this whole deal was a strategic and timed move by them in order to get a nice large pool of money to start themselves out with. It all goes towards the hungry artists and tech staff right?

Anyway,

Perhaps the bitter side of me is talking when I say that the entire lifetime thing felt like a big push to get a lot of money quickly. Who else would pay for a lifetime subscription than a bunch of game nerds (like myself) that played the beta hungrily? In any case, perhaps the deal shouldn't be offered for a while, maybe wait a year and see how the game is doing, but it feels unfair to leave the waiting public that didn't participate in the beta behind in this. I'm not saying that it should be extended because I can't afford it at the moment, mind you, but once the game opens up to everyone, then you would probably see another wave of buying the deal. Perhaps expand the time limit on the deal as well. As stated earlier, $200 is a lot (at least for this working/full time college student) and as such, I think that a lot of us would appreciate some more saving time to get things together (remember, life/books/college/food come first! :p )

In the end, it really is a great deal, and I'm truly saddened that I couldn't get in on it. I hope the game flourishes enough so that it's offered again, but in the meantime, I'll have to just settle for paying a little more.

Besides, at least this way, if I don't like it before a year is up, I saved money overall if I uninstall it. :)

Much love to the nerds. See you heroes in-game!

-Angilis

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Really? Because if you plan to sub this game for 2 - 4 years like most people play mmos. You end up saving alot of cash.

15$ x 12 = 180$ x 4 = 720$ for subbing for 4 years at 15$ a month subtract 200$ and you just saved yourself 520$

Seems like a pretty good deal if you ask me. Especially with how todays economy is.


Also factor in the extra character slots you get with it, whcih will probably be $10.00 for 4 atleast, adds to the savings.

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Today is your last chance to purchase the Lifetime and 6-month subscriptions! At 11:59PM, we're pulling the plug for the last time. Check out the Exclusive Specials (http://www.champions-online.com/exclusive_specials) page for the details about each subscription and grab them before they're gone for good.


Link to the news article. (http://www.champions-online.com/node/467033)


Dash Darnit!!!
When I finally get hold on some money I can't get the lifer sub... :(

It's just my luck...

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Make sure you pull the special deals on subscription fee BEFORE I ever log into the game. Make sure that only the beta guys get the deal. No way should I even get to see anything of the game before I decide where to throw two hundred dollars...

This bodes not well for any form of customer service from this company.

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Oh, man...thats what I get for not following the forums while waiting for the go live date. I can't believe I missed it again. Sucks to be me, I guess I'll just have to hope they do what LotRO did and come out with one latter, that I accually do take advantage of.

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To anyone who complains either in this thread or after the Lifetime subs have ceased:

You had TWO chances to get your funds together and pay for a lifetime subscription. Fortune favors the brave, not the stingy.

And the informed... I would have paid for it had I known...I didn't know until it was too late...who is to blame for that? ME, why because if I had visted these forums even once sence they shutdown Open Beta, I would have knowen and been able to buy. I just wish I had. :(

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If it wasn't for the Lifetime subscription offer, I probably wouldn't be playing CO. That, and the promise of gamepad support in the near future.

this is also for me, i can only afford to pay for 1 game and not 2 :(. when sto comes out i really hope they offer a lifetime sub. even if they dont ill still buy and play it and get rid of city of.

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sigh, looks like I missed it as well. I didn't know about it being pulled before the actual release date. I had not been to the forums in a while too busy with work. :(

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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO =( I just checked the site, I never do for days on end, I was going to buy the lifetime sub and get foxbat minion CURSES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! =( Daeke don't you love me =*(

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Well i came here expecting people whining how it should be extended even further. Even though they already shot past their own financial plan about how many of these where alotted (and still they continued). Because, yknow, they lose money bigtime on each lifer that plays more then 12 months.

Glad atleast i wasn't dissapointed.

Now if you'll excuse me, i'll go back to enjoying my lifetime sub again. It'll greatly help me *save up money* for the next mmo.

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Well, I totally spaced grabbing the Lifetime sub, so I won't even be purchasing the game now. I'll use my $5 preorder money towards something else.

Yeah.... I know, it's my loss. But not really.

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Ok, I want to add some here too...


"I may be one potential customer who would consider, after being able to play the game for a while, buying a permanent subscription. I don't want to do it with a game I'm not even sure I'll enjoy. . . and something that may only last a year."



If you play any other MMO you have to acknowledge that a LT sub isn't the rule right? So the gambling here is to buy the pre-order and go in to look if you really like the game to make this kind of financial commitment. If you like it, LT sub, if not, monthly or goodbye... Another info, if you are waiting for the game for a couple years, and reading stuff on it, you can increase your chances "on the house". :)


Two hundred dollars is a gamble in this situation (not to mention, a grand sum of money to those that have to really try hard to earn it), especially when the game hasn't even lifted off the ground as far as being open to the public. We don't know how popular it's going to be, how much support it will get, or how far it will go in the long run.


Yes, $200 is no joke... But hey, let's be honest here, how much do you spent on a pizza and beers with friends on the weekend? $50? Well... just exchange 5 of it to a lifetime of fun! (Should I get another in game pet for that?) hehehe... Seriously, it's just the fun factor that should drive you to the subscription, and you not having an empty fridge...

Yet again I call for our experience with other online games. Funcom was really TERRIBLE on PR, not listening to the community, and they don't even bother to answer your questions. Real bad, till today I get angry when I remember... I opened some tickets and they answered some and others more "complicated" they just ignored. I loved the game (AoC), but at the end, I'm out cause of Funcom. I can go back if something really exciting happens, but....

So far I see Crypt answering our questions, and respecting their deals (they went back on LT subs). Point for them in MY opinion...


It feels like the entire deal was exclusively for those fortunate enough to get in on the beta, and even then, some people were only able to play for a small part of the beta (I myself haven't sufficiently tested the game out).


I only got to lvl 16 on OB, and I think we can have a very good perspective of the game till there. I've played CoX too, so maybe this helped me make my decision... I love the game so far. The reason is: I had too much fun on this weekend playing it and killing the admins (sorry :)). That's what made my mind... The FUN I can and will get it, even if I play it for just a year... But I doubt it, I kept going back to CoX...


Although I see the reasoning behind the theory of "the offer can potentially cripple the company since they're being overly generous", I feel a little inclined to say that any gaming company wouldn't completely risk their neck to appeal to the public, especially if a similar mistake was made before (apparently there was a Hellgate London incident)? I think that this branch from CoH/V has enough support that it wont go diving under at the first sense of pressure, and that this whole deal was a strategic and timed move by them in order to get a nice large pool of money to start themselves out with. It all goes towards the hungry artists and tech staff right?


Yes, this is a strategy to capitalize a little bit before the launch. Cripple? Don't think so... Remember the transition to B2P and P2P that happens with WoW (I think it was the first). I refused to pay monthly to pay for a game, because I was an old timer playing Diablo and another games that did not requires a monthly fee. I cursed than and told to myself that I would never get a P2P game... I kept my word for about 2 years... Then I start playing WoW and another mmos... I'm telling this just to make a point that things as we know it, changes...

Hellgate London? I'm sorry, but I anticipated that game too much... It was just a bad game... bad bad game... dang... That's why it does not survive. CO is much more fun and "alive", not a fair comparison :)

This start money if well invested can aid the survival of the game for at least 2 years (again, MY opinion). Remember they are a company. They have goals and they know how to invest their money (I hope ;)), so, don't worry about the time the game will be on... it will be on...

That's it, just trying to expose another view

My best!

Yes I'm optimist, but hey, I'm here to have fun!

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They are ending this special on launch day, because that's all the amount of time it would normally take someone to login, and realize the game is an unfinished piece of garbage that runs at 5fps.

No one in their right mind would pay for a lifetime sub right now in the condition this game is in.

I'm convinced the only people buying those subs are the people who haven't played the beta. They couldn't have. :/

my 2 cents.

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Dang, I was going to buy a lifetime for one of my friend's birthday today. Meh. :mad:






Come to think of it, he didn't get me anything I wanted on MY birthday. I mean, who wants ties for gosh sakes? :cool:

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Don't get middle aged - the gifts suck. :p

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They are ending this special on launch day, because that's all the amount of time it would normally take someone to login, and realize the game is an unfinished piece of garbage that runs at 5fps.

No one in their right mind would pay for a lifetime sub right now in the condition this game is in.

I'm convinced the only people buying those subs are the people who haven't played the beta. They couldn't have. :/

my 2 cents.

Lol you make me giggle. 5fls? I get 90 with everything maxed. Gforce gfx280. Intel q9550 stock. 4gb ram.

I think you just expect too much. I mean I'm sure all the games YOU made were amazing. How about this... You make a game where I can get a 3d model to walk in any drection, fly, kill critters, and make it look 1/10th as good as this game looks and I will give you 260$. The equivelant of a lifetime sub for this game.

You suck, your kind sucks, and my toon will do **** to you that probably isn't even legal in this country. Cuz that's how we roll!

While I don't necessarily think that this game deserves a lifetime sub from me just yet, it might in the future. After all, one game I go back to time and time again is guild wars. I know I didn't have to pay for a lifetime sub, but it's the equivilent in my opinion.

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Well, according to the front page, I have until 11:59 PM SEPTEMBER 31st, 2009. :P

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Today is your last chance to purchase the Lifetime and 6-month subscriptions! At 11:59PM, we're pulling the plug for the last time. Check out the Exclusive Specials (http://www.champions-online.com/exclusive_specials) page for the details about each subscription and grab them before they're gone for good.

Link to the news article. (http://www.champions-online.com/node/467033)

I for one would have gotten the lifetime subscription, but alas, like most other people will not pay $200+ (Canadian) for a game I have yet even had the oppertunity to try. I love the table top Champions game, but am fearfull that a MMO will not come close to living upto the same standards.

Good luck in your money drive...

Guess I'll just keep playing World of ******** :mad:

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No offense Cryptic, but put a fork in the lifetime subs. Nobody in their right mind is going to buy one AFTER logging in today. You guys screwed the pooch with today's patch.

I have mine, so i'm off to go pick up my retail box. Though i have to say, if i had not already spent the 200, i wouldnt be spending the other 45 on the box. I'd be waiting for you guys to straighten this crap out. My builds still "Work" but i have died more in the last few hours than i had in the previous several weeks. I'm not a gimp, and i didn't rely on PFF or shield surge, or invuln. I did have regen on most chars, along with an energy form, and i switched off (now i'm all offense, since regen sucks)

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To anyone who complains either in this thread or after the Lifetime subs have ceased:

You had TWO chances to get your funds together and pay for a lifetime subscription. Fortune favors the brave, not the stingy.

Yeah, um - even those of us who have regular jobs can get stuck, you know. I get paid once a month. It's a bit for me to plunk down that much money at one time towards the end of the month.

I'd give people some slack. Sometimes it's not a matter of being frugal, sometimes it's a matter of fact.

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Let's see...

Many people get paid on the 1st of the month, and they pull the lifetime subs offer at midnight on the 31st?

Whose bright idea was that?

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Word, it is ****ing idiotic. I can agree with not getting life, since i'll get my $ on the 19:th. But for the ones getting it the 1:st, I see no ****ing excuse to NOT push it ahead for at least a few more days.

Very bad style Cryptic, VERY bad style.

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This is ridiculous.

Quit your complaining.

The devs went to bat for us on this one after Atari made the boneheaded move of pulling the option WELL before the originally-intended closing time.

You're missing the key point. There's NO feasible reason that subscription option should have even been available when the game wasn't even gold yet! The offer was only available to a] the people who managed to get in on the beta, and b] those who would blindly buy the lifetime sub on speculation ONLY.

What about the hundreds of thousands of potential customers who will get to try the game after it's fully live? For those saying lifetime subs don't make any money, that's just untrue. Many of the people who will buy lifetime subs are the more casual gamers, who can't see shelling out 15 bucks a month when they might only play a few hours here or there one month, then say, on vacation, spend a week or more straight playing the game. Most of your hardcore gamers are the month to month subbers. Plus you do realize that subs are designed to balance out (between casual gamers and hardcore gamers, as far as bandwidth costs go) rather than cater to how much you may play? (iows, the hardcore gamers may play two, three, four times or more hours than a casual gamer, but they both still pay the same amount). It takes a LOT of game play to actually max out 15 dollars a month of bandwidth (R&D not withstanding, but that's generally what the retail sales are for). *MOST* people who buy (or would buy) a lifetime subscription will likely never use up 200 dollars worth of bandwidth.

Somebody else a few pages back mentioned marketing having a hand in the decision, and I don't doubt it. Offering a lifetime subscription to what will likely amount to barely 1% of the total peak gaming population that this game will receive just says they that they don't want to be accused of not pandering to their customers, but by *when* they offered it, says they definitely want to grub as much money off of those customers as possible by making the monthly sub just about the only viable subscription scheme. (seriously, even if the new six month scheme is 5 dollars off per month, they are STILL making decent money per).

And one of the worst things about Atari that you have to watch out for, is they have dropped game support even when the actual developers kept going (Silverfall, anybody?). And with this being an MMO, Cryptic is going to need that Atari backbone full force.

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You're missing the key point. There's NO feasible reason that subscription option should have even been available when the game wasn't even gold yet! The offer was only available to a] the people who managed to get in on the beta, and b] those who would blindly buy the lifetime sub on speculation ONLY.

What about the hundreds of thousands of potential customers who will get to try the game after it's fully live? For those saying lifetime subs don't make any money, that's just untrue. Many of the people who will buy lifetime subs are the more casual gamers, who can't see shelling out 15 bucks a month when they might only play a few hours here or there one month, then say, on vacation, spend a week or more straight playing the game. Most of your hardcore gamers are the month to month subbers. Plus you do realize that subs are designed to balance out (between casual gamers and hardcore gamers, as far as bandwidth costs go) rather than cater to how much you may play? (iows, the hardcore gamers may play two, three, four times or more hours than a casual gamer, but they both still pay the same amount). It takes a LOT of game play to actually max out 15 dollars a month of bandwidth (R&D not withstanding, but that's generally what the retail sales are for). *MOST* people who buy (or would buy) a lifetime subscription will likely never use up 200 dollars worth of bandwidth.

Somebody else a few pages back mentioned marketing having a hand in the decision, and I don't doubt it. Offering a lifetime subscription to what will likely amount to barely 1% of the total peak gaming population that this game will receive just says they that they don't want to be accused of not pandering to their customers, but by *when* they offered it, says they definitely want to grub as much money off of those customers as possible by making the monthly sub just about the only viable subscription scheme. (seriously, even if the new six month scheme is 5 dollars off per month, they are STILL making decent money per).

And one of the worst things about Atari that you have to watch out for, is they have dropped game support even when the actual developers kept going (Silverfall, anybody?). And with this being an MMO, Cryptic is going to need that Atari backbone full force.

Epic Fail in its finest, like i and many others have said we all have had time to try the game and get in on the deal. Dam people really do find anything to complain about.

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Best part about this, is that in the original email that they sent out there was no date specificed, I went and looked it up. So for those of us who have had ot deal with real life, this did come as a surprise as there was no notification that there was an end date.

I just looked through all the emails from cryptic. Frist email that went out about the supcription rate was Aug 22nd. No notification about end date or that the subscription offer was going to end... BAD BAD BAD communication skills FAIL!

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Im' not sure if I did this way too late, but I just did a pre-order, and I didn't get a pre-order key code, and I realy want that lifetime membership.

Let me guess, I'm screwed?

Your not the only one!
All the Emails I got never mentioned it was only for before Sept 1
I preordered the game but gamestop ran out of beta Keys!
No emails mentioned you had to be signed up before Sept 1

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I'm just bloody disappointed. :(

I found out about the offer on Sunday, and purchased a pre-order, as soon as I was able to. I especially liked the Beta for STO offer.
I raced down today to pick up the game, thinking that it would be pointless and a bit off in logic to try and subscribe BEFORE having a game client and Registration key.
I was wrong.

Oh well. Now to wait out the patching...

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once again it begins, so how many threads will this take up this time...:( *looks up to the heavens and asks "Why me"*

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Sexy toon fallen.

I'm sure were all just getti g worked up over nothing. They'll eventually offer the lifetime subs again.

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Hmm...I did not even know about the LIfetime subscription until I heard some peeps talking about it last night in game. Do not even know how much it was. I am sure a lot of players would have like to get in on that, but like me, did not even know about it.

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You really should have emailed out a notice instead of posting it here. I picked up extra shifts at work to be able to get this lifetime option and got paid one day too late. I do not have time to check forums especially when picking up extra wrok, if you had mailed a notice I could have poissibly borrowed the money.

I also have to agree with others. Those who did not get to play in Beta or Headstart have no way of knowing if the game was worth the lifetime subscription price. Very user unfriendly! :eek:

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There is no page here. It is gone. It may have never existed. Or maybe Foxbat stole it.

He's a supervillain. They do stuff like that.

Anyone have a list of what we were supposed to get, under normal circumstances I would trust them but my pre-order stuff is not in order and after the last week of "patches" trust is a sparse commodity when talking about Cryptic.

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You really should have emailed out a notice instead of posting it here. I picked up extra shifts at work to be able to get this lifetime option and got paid one day too late. I do not have time to check forums especially when picking up extra wrok, if you had mailed a notice I could have poissibly borrowed the money.

I also have to agree with others. Those who did not get to play in Beta or Headstart have no way of knowing if the game was worth the lifetime subscription price. Very user unfriendly! :eek:

Actually they did email it, if you were subscribed to the news letter.

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You really should have emailed out a notice instead of posting it here. I picked up extra shifts at work to be able to get this lifetime option and got paid one day too late. I do not have time to check forums especially when picking up extra wrok, if you had mailed a notice I could have poissibly borrowed the money.

I also have to agree with others. Those who did not get to play in Beta or Headstart have no way of knowing if the game was worth the lifetime subscription price. Very user unfriendly! :eek:

You know, it's funny, when they ran out of of the LTSs the first time, the forum uproared, and they got brought back (at probably a pretty good expense to the bottom line, seeing as they gave out an unlimited number until launch). So it's even more funny to have people who are complaining about it now, even though at this point, Cryptic bent over backwards to make sure anyone who wanted a lifetime sub could get it in the allotted time.

First, if you knew about the lifetime sub to begin with, then you should have read in the original add where it was stated very clearly that the offer was for a limited time. If at any point in the weeks preceeding it, and you might have needed a refresher, all you would have had to do was pop over to the main site real quick where it was probably listed in half a dozen little articles strewn across the main page. THE MAIN PAGE. You only needed to go to the forums to be part of the explosion of complainers, not to get the basics. You lost out because you chose not to pay attention. I don't care how busy you are, if you have time to access the internet to any degree, and you were actually concerned about getting a lifetime sub, then this would not have happened to you.

I'm sorry, but I can feel no sympathy for you at this point. You are SOL because of your own devices.

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BTW, how the hell is this thread still alive?

The lifetime subs are gone, so all that is left is for people to complain, and they should due that in some place that the Devs don't have to pay attention anymore, because I feel pretty confident that the term "Lifetime Subscription" is probably the impetus of a lot of migrains these days.

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You know what you guys are doing...? This type of offers willl never be offered again since you are acting stupid about it and you do not read the information in the game site and then pretend to be abused... Beta wasnt too short and the offer has been offered for way long time. Stop acting like dumb. Sorry...

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BTW, how the hell is this thread still alive?

The lifetime subs are gone, so all that is left is for people to complain, and they should due that in some place that the Devs don't have to pay attention anymore, because I feel pretty confident that the term "Lifetime Subscription" is probably the impetus of a lot of migrains these days.

Some people live to complain, it's just the nature of some people unfortunately.

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The only e-mail I received from them regarding this clearly indicated an end date of Sept. 1st. When they originally took the offers down on August 25th, I was annoyed, but they brought back their original offer of Sept. 1st.

here is a screenshot of the email... (http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/7056/lolpokb.jpg)

This offer cannot be offered forever, if everyone got a lifetime sub, they would run out of money eventually, then the game would fail. They are offering this for the loyal people who have been following the game for quite some time, IIRC the offer was orginally announced early august, and before a ninja edit, clearly stated Sept. 1st as the end date, if you REALLY wanted to try the game, you had more than enough time to pre-order from one of the retailers offering a headstart and then try it out during the headstart and make your decision then, and if not that then get into the open beta, which began before the headstart on the live servers.

They are not being unfair, THEY BROUGHT BACK THEIR ORIGINAL OFFER. To ask for more is just whining to whine.

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You really should have emailed out a notice instead of posting it here. I picked up extra shifts at work to be able to get this lifetime option and got paid one day too late. I do not have time to check forums especially when picking up extra wrok, if you had mailed a notice I could have poissibly borrowed the money.

I also have to agree with others. Those who did not get to play in Beta or Headstart have no way of knowing if the game was worth the lifetime subscription price. Very user unfriendly! :eek:

The only e-mail I received from them regarding this clearly indicated an end date of Sept. 1st. When they originally took the offers down on August 25th, I was annoyed, but they brought back their original offer of Sept. 1st.

here is a screenshot of the email... (http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/7056/lolpokb.jpg)

This offer cannot be offered forever, if everyone got a lifetime sub, they would run out of money eventually, then the game would fail. They are offering this for the loyal people who have been following the game for quite some time, IIRC the offer was orginally announced early august, and before a ninja edit, clearly stated Sept. 1st as the end date, if you REALLY wanted to try the game, you had more than enough time to pre-order from one of the retailers offering a headstart and then try it out during the headstart and make your decision then, and if not that then get into the open beta, which began before the headstart on the live servers.

They are not being unfair, THEY BROUGHT BACK THEIR ORIGINAL OFFER. To ask for more is just whining to whine.

Just an addendum: They put themselves in a pretty financially risky place by bringing back the offer to begin with. There was a reason that they put a cap on the number of LTSs they were offering. It's unlikely, but not impossible that the a big part of their playerbase are lifetime subscribers. If that were the case (which hopefully and more then likely isn't), then after a year, they would be making the vast majority of their money to keep this game operation off of Microtransactions ( a concept a great many players aren't too happy about to begin with, and thus probably won't do much partaking in).

It's funny the people who talk about it like it's some kind of right. "Why would they stop me from giving them crap loads of money?" Well, because you're only paying for a year, a month and some change. The idea is to keep this game afloat. If everyone only has to pay the one time, then they would be in some pretty deep water.

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Not necessarily. The average attention span of a gamer is pretty small. Check it out, play it, get bored, move on. Most gamers only pay for 3-6 months on average. Pay 200 dollars for a llifetime for someone who would normally have only played 6 months, just doubled the income of that 1 user. Let's face it. The majority of gamers will pay a lifetime and bee done with it, where if they had to pay monthly would cancel every other month after the have played the new content and are in "waiting" mode again for the next publish. The lifetime sales Cryptic has done is probably way more than they would have made by not offering them period. Especially with new MMO's due out in the next year or so. Hell, Cryptic alone has another due to hit beta end of this year.

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yea also i can also see people trying to sell accounts here just like on every other mmo just the LTS adds value to the product

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You know, it's funny, when they ran out of of the LTSs the first time, the forum uproared, and they got brought back (at probably a pretty good expense to the bottom line, seeing as they gave out an unlimited number until launch). So it's even more funny to have people who are complaining about it now, even though at this point, Cryptic bent over backwards to make sure anyone who wanted a lifetime sub could get it in the allotted time.

First, if you knew about the lifetime sub to begin with, then you should have read in the original add where it was stated very clearly that the offer was for a limited time. If at any point in the weeks preceeding it, and you might have needed a refresher, all you would have had to do was pop over to the main site real quick where it was probably listed in half a dozen little articles strewn across the main page. THE MAIN PAGE. You only needed to go to the forums to be part of the explosion of complainers, not to get the basics. You lost out because you chose not to pay attention. I don't care how busy you are, if you have time to access the internet to any degree, and you were actually concerned about getting a lifetime sub, then this would not have happened to you.

I'm sorry, but I can feel no sympathy for you at this point. You are SOL because of your own devices.

Don't assume everybody knew the same info. I didn't even GET a beta key until August 26th. I didn't know the beta was near it's end (Aug. 17th to the 27th was the entire open beta run? MOST MMO's run open beta for weeks, if not more than a month, and people are saying 10 days wasn't "too short"?) A lot of people didn't even find out about this until too late (I couldn't even install until a few days after I got the beta key, and it was only then that I found out the beta was over, and when I went to check this info on the website, that's when I saw the info on the lifetime account. So I wasn't signed up long enough to even get any emails, and with the shortness of the beta, it's pretty much a sure bet a lot of other people came in too late to get the pertinent info.

Why is this thread still going? It's not to complain, and frankly, the worst posts in this thread are the know it alls who assume everybody played the full term of the beta and got every email notification. Most of the posts that are unhappy with the end of the LTS's are merely giving valid reasons why they should still be offered (or at least, not permanently ended). Most of the complaints and worst negativity is coming from the "you have no right to complain" people mentioned above.

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Most of the complaints and worst negativity is coming from the "you have no right to complain" people mentioned above.

True story... :D