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08-31-2009, 11:56 AM
Since everyone likes to throw out 'everyone that uses X are noobs', I thought it'd be fun to have people post what they thought the 'worst' build is right now. Requirements are that it seems they got their build from reading only 'X is overpowered' threads and are not even attempting to make a theme or style out of it.

My choice: < Force / Ice / PFF as passive / teleport as travel / and of course healing drones >

Note, I'm not actually saying this is a good build, but rather than a ton of people seem to have gotten that impression and are swarming the arena with badly played versions of it en masse. So what 'noob magnet' builds have you seen out there so far?

(Date in the thread title cause this will probably change daily for awhile)

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08-31-2009, 01:12 PM
so you're asking what is the FoTM right now?

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08-31-2009, 01:18 PM
if by pathetic, you mean worst build that could nerf you?

Go pure melee, with attack pets. Superstar Endurance and Ego. After that, no CCs, no ranged. Don't put ANYTHING into strength. Drop it all into Ego, and End. No Passive slot at all. if you must, choose the spread out talants once you can't stack anything else into Ego/End. try to avoid Presence and Int at that point.

In theory, that might well be the most gimped, pathetic build you could make right now. I could be wrong though.

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08-31-2009, 01:57 PM
I've seen people using the all knockback + ice + drones builds - basically min-maxing all the best powers.

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08-31-2009, 02:05 PM
Lately I've started caring less about the powers and more about the items. Some of the consumables / actives can't possibly be intended to be used in pvp.

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08-31-2009, 03:07 PM
Note, I'm not actually saying this is a good build, but rather than a ton of people seem to have gotten that impression and are swarming the arena with badly played versions of it en masse.

Oh, come on. Everyone is a noob at one point. The game is so new. You have to try out various builds to see what works and what doesn't. With the craptastic respec costs, it's even harder to test, so people have to rely on word of mouth regarding effective powers. Unfortunately, a lot of good players aren't sharing their hard earned knowledge in public forums.

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08-31-2009, 03:13 PM
noticing this ego build that does insane dmg in the 21-30 bracket alot today.. kinda frustrating.

and on that note, my sorc seems weak as hell. half the time i am full charging my 2s and it's hitting for 20% of what it's meant to.

oh well, lots of balance to come..

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08-31-2009, 03:54 PM
and on that note, my sorc seems weak as hell. half the time i am full charging my 2s and it's hitting for 20% of what it's meant to.

Keep in mind that it only shows how much damage you deal to their hp. If they have any buffer shield at all (PFF, mindful reinforcement, whatever), you are basically dealing "0" damage until their shield is gone.

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08-31-2009, 04:04 PM
At low levels don't take any defensive passive or heal
game kthxbai

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08-31-2009, 04:28 PM
I'd say (being handed the cash/rescources todo so) respec'ing/undo your 2 start powers and innate characteristic an leaving the Powerhouse as is. :p

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08-31-2009, 05:19 PM
Oh, come on. Everyone is a noob at one point. The game is so new. You have to try out various builds to see what works and what doesn't. With the craptastic respec costs, it's even harder to test, so people have to rely on word of mouth regarding effective powers. Unfortunately, a lot of good players aren't sharing their hard earned knowledge in public forums.

That's kind of my point though. If your entire build was formed by scanning threads for 'X is OP' and taking it, well.....let's just say players that do that have earned the nickname 'FOTM' for a reason. And honestly, it's completely unnecessary in this game.

I've been running around as < Archery / Fire / Regen / Flying > and the only thing that even gives me pause are the people that teleport away after a hit or two. In OB I did the same with guns, force, and even telekinisis (up to rank 22 anyways , melee starts to be le suck after 20 due to the amount of CC flying around). Not going to claim I'm the bees knees or anything, but on all of those builds I have no trouble saying I was at least in the top half of the pvp pool. Build doesn't seem to matter.

If you're doing decent in pvp and like it, chances are any build short of a deliberately crippled one will be fine. If you suck horribly at it, taking some FOTM build won't change that. In a lot of games a FOTM build will turn an awful player into a decent one, though, so people are trying. This thread is for people to say what they think THOSE people think the FOTM build is right now, is all.

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08-31-2009, 06:08 PM
Lately I've started caring less about the powers and more about the items. Some of the consumables / actives can't possibly be intended to be used in pvp.

I picked one up earlier that has a single use, i'm saving it until i see someone in a pvp match that is whining enough to warrant me using it to rub their face in the muck.

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08-31-2009, 06:21 PM
I'd say (being handed the cash/rescources todo so) respec'ing/undo your 2 start powers and innate characteristic an leaving the Powerhouse as is. :p

lol you know im so going to try that

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08-31-2009, 08:14 PM
I would definitely say ice+pff+teleport+drones is my biggest challenge.

A good ice player will sit there in ice form when you are not on him, nuke the heck out of you.
As soon as you turn to go after him, swap roles to pff+drones+teleport to tank and run the moment his below 80%. You can't chase due to chill, you can't kill him through pff, healing and teleport.
You then turn back to his team after he ran off, and then he comes back to CC and nuke you again while you are preoccupied.

Very hard to deal with.

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08-31-2009, 08:25 PM
Lately I've started caring less about the powers and more about the items. Some of the consumables / actives can't possibly be intended to be used in pvp.

Oh come now - a 33% Heal AND Endurance gain with zero cooldown, zero activation time, and cost practically nothing (9 Pacmans as my friend calls them) is perfectly balanced! :rolleyes:

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09-01-2009, 04:48 AM
Oh come now - a 33% Heal AND Endurance gain with zero cooldown, zero activation time, and cost practically nothing (9 Pacmans as my friend calls them) is perfectly balanced! :rolleyes:

Too bad they've been destroyed :p

The "pathetic" builds i've seen are usually pure might. Poor might these days just can't kill me, and every now and then I find someone with Defiance that I just can't kill so its a very long sparring match. I always go to elementals in their forms personally, easiest for me to kill quick

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09-01-2009, 04:52 AM
i rolled an ice / force toon the first day of the early start.


shut up and deal with it.

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09-01-2009, 09:01 AM
I'm expecting ice to eventually get a bit of a nerf on Chill, which simply lasts too long. I don't think it'll be quite as horrible when you don't spend forty seconds trying to get your ability to move by anything other than teleport - which is really an unfair advantage for those of us who use it.

That said, I'm amazed I haven't seen anyone combine Ice and Mines.

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09-01-2009, 11:37 PM
I'm expecting ice to eventually get a bit of a nerf on Chill, which simply lasts too long. I don't think it'll be quite as horrible when you don't spend forty seconds trying to get your ability to move by anything other than teleport - which is really an unfair advantage for those of us who use it.

That said, I'm amazed I haven't seen anyone combine Ice and Mines.

I have seen someone combine ice and mines. Sadly, it was all he ever did. Slow, mines, shield over and over.

But with that (before this patch, not sure of now) he couldn't kill my alt with personal force field.

On the topic of Chill, I hate it. Luckily I have thunderbolt lunge and acrobatics so I'm not entirely useless while chilled. Sucks for anyone without teleport, super jump, acrobatics and I'm assuming swinging.

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09-02-2009, 07:29 AM
Single weapon Melee appears to be the weakest of all builds atm. I had to abandon my first char b/c I was getting killed so much it was causing team to lose.

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09-03-2009, 12:11 AM
i own frost builds and force is not all that hard to beat its just the way u build ur toon and i framworked mine with tele/supernatural and rocket boots and i was puttin them away lol