View Full Version : Healers are hurting...
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08-29-2009, 09:18 AM
Since open beta I wanted to see how the healing would play out, enjoyed the healing but hated the agro gained from it "even under the support roll and tons of presence". Trying various healing abilities i landed on 2 good ones Arcane Vitality and Psi tree that you charge ( Empathic Healing could he good but since there is a CD now and can be interrupted it would only cause problems if you needed to get a full heal out).
When the head start launched yesterday i had a solid game plan that would have a good line of buffs, heals, and minimal dps - however i can not fully execute it because these power are not there :(
I was under the impression that this was the Live Game for headstart, even though I don't have my retail code the preorder code should be just as good seeing is how i plan to buy the game. I am unhappy since i have to bring my leveling to a grinding halt because of this known issue. The more time you take to correct the problem the less time i have to play in "head start".
If this could be Hot Fixed please please do so, i know my fellow healer would love it if you did.
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08-29-2009, 09:21 AM
I am actually getting a healing power on my tank because of how awesome its aggro generation is AND it helps me live longer.
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08-29-2009, 09:24 AM
I respect a tank that will apply healing to there tanking abilities means i worry about melee more than the tank and thats a good thing :)
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08-29-2009, 09:32 AM
As a tank, I had one big problem: I didn't have enough powers to engage all mobs at the battlefield fast enough, so there always was a sniper or two that would pick at my friends because I couldn't get to them fast enough.
Channeling healing does exactly that: it gets their attention and makes them shoot me. It works better than an actual taunt.
What irony!
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08-29-2009, 09:33 AM
Mmmm ummm wumm yumm...
*munch munch*
TEAAARSSS!!
mmmm
*eat eat*
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08-29-2009, 09:39 AM
Mmmm ummm wumm yumm...
*munch munch*
TEAAARSSS!!
mmmm
*eat eat*
I am not sure if you should be eating that, tears have a lot of salt and are bad for your teeth :p
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08-29-2009, 09:41 AM
I am not sure if you should be eating that, tears have a lot of salt and are bad for your teeth :p
Silly man. Healers are supposed to heal, not hurt.
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08-29-2009, 09:45 AM
well you kinda have to hurt a little to heal BIG, but can't heal if the power isn't for me to pick.
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08-29-2009, 09:51 AM
Honestly, I'm assuming that there's a logic behind this. Healers are having trouble maintaining a constant, efficient stream of heals because the game isn't really being balanced around that being viable. If a healer can just pour it on, then one of two things happen. Either the game has to be balanced under the assumption that someone will always be healing, or any group with a healer will basically steamroll any content they stumble across.
I suspect that healing's current state is part of an effort to bring it in line with most other support powers. I.E. healing is good, but no better than reliable CC.
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08-29-2009, 09:58 AM
Honestly, I'm assuming that there's a logic behind this. Healers are having trouble maintaining a constant, efficient stream of heals because the game isn't really being balanced around that being viable. If a healer can just pour it on, then one of two things happen. Either the game has to be balanced under the assumption that someone will always be healing, or any group with a healer will basically steamroll any content they stumble across.
I suspect that healing's current state is part of an effort to bring it in line with most other support powers. I.E. healing is good, but no better than reliable CC.
just to clear up the confusion - I didnt say healing sucks i said Empathic Healing (a healing ability) was not good because it gets interrupted in situations that calls for a heal. But there are other healing abilities like Arcane Vitality which is a healing ability from the Sorcery tree that is just not in the live game now but it was in during open beta
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08-29-2009, 09:59 AM
So it's not that healing is nerfed.
It's just that every healing ability in the game is nerfed.
Got it.
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08-29-2009, 10:08 AM
So it's not that healing is nerfed.
It's just that every healing ability in the game is nerfed.
Got it.
No that not it - some powers are just not there.
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08-29-2009, 10:09 AM
So they haven't nerfed the powers that don't exist. Makes sense.
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08-29-2009, 10:15 AM
So they haven't nerfed the powers that don't exist. Makes sense.
lol well the important thing is that you tried to understand :rolleyes:
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08-29-2009, 10:29 AM
Whats happened to arcane vitality?
I took sorcery because empathic healing was so rubbish plus i wante a rez too but i dont get the option offered to me?
Although it does say you need 3 arcane powers and i only have one but no option to get anymore just yet only level 13.
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08-29-2009, 11:53 AM
Whats happened to arcane vitality?
I took sorcery because empathic healing was so rubbish plus i wante a rez too but i dont get the option offered to me?
Although it does say you need 3 arcane powers and i only have one but no option to get anymore just yet only level 13.
sorry to reply so late went and got lunch :)
Arcane Vitality can not be bought from the trainer even when you meet the requirements for that ability. All the healers know that spell kicks ass but even at level 18 i could not get this ability. Some of us are hoping for a hot fix to happen and bring that and a few other spells in the Sorcery tree back. Healing is a big part of my MMO experience and if i can't heal effectively then i don't want to play Champions Online. Love everything about it and even preordered it but i can't level with my friends using Empathic Healing :(
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08-29-2009, 12:16 PM
Yeah im the same i like healing hope they correct it have they confirmed its a bug though and not just changed for a higher level?
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08-29-2009, 12:26 PM
I think it is a known issue, but they haven't put it on there known issues page. For me its a BIG problem and i am hoping they fix it today/tonight pr hot fix because it wont sit well with me if i have to wait till street launch for them to fix it. I heal but without a proper heal I just don'f feel like leveling or buying the game :( . And some will argue that this is not a "heal" type of game, but they said "no role will be left out". I support and heal :D