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08-29-2009, 08:53 AM
I'm trying to build a fire aoe character. Can anyone recommend which fire powers to train/avoid and which defensive and CC powers from other frameworks would compliment this build?

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08-29-2009, 09:14 AM
You Have Pyre, right?

Thats pretty much it, right there.

Archived Post
08-29-2009, 10:19 AM
I couldn't tell you but I will list some food for thought...

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: Level 40 Champion

Superstats:
Level 5: Super Constitution
Level 13: Super Intelligence

Powers:
Level 1: Throw Fire -- Burning Desire
Level 1: Fire Breath -- Spitfire<--relatively cheap maint. cost and guarantees clinging flames
Level 5: Thermal Reverberation<--innate energy builder that converts clinging flames to energy
Level 5: Tunneling<--nice aggro ditch if you get too much and can build up resist on the way to a fight
Level 8: Defiance -- Rank 2, Rank 3<--build up energy nicely..gives decent defense
Level 11: Electric Sheath -- Matter - Energy Union, Rank 2<--color it red, yellow or orange and pretend its fire..its one fo the better energy forms in game afaik
Level 14: Sparkstorm -- Electric Personality, Challenging Strikes, Rank 2<--same as sheath pretend its fire its a constant PBAoE
Level 17: Pyre -- Rank 2, Rank 3
Level 20: Resurgence -- Evanescent Emergence, Rank 2
Level 23: Nanobot Swarm -- Rejuvenating Injectors
Level 26: Sonic Device -- Deafening Dissolution
Level 29: Firestrike -- Wildfire, Rank 2
Level 32: Flashfire -- Rank 2
Level 35: Conflagration -- Rank 2
Level 35: Fire Flight
Level 38: Enrage

the rest you can look up via the planner but last note resurgence is your big heal, nano bot swarm is like hasten from CoX it'll reduce your cool down timers and give a HoT. Sonic device just gives more AoE damage to attacks and Enrage converts your defiance in to enrage basically flopping your built up defensebonus into damage bonus.

Dunno which too keep or which is better..or how'd you want to slot it some or all but its food for thought. Oh yeah Con and Int will be your allies in your quest for a build like yours... just try to stay away from powers that scale with stats other than Con

(Currently Listed) Powers That Scale With A Specific Statistic
Electric Form - END/ REC
Fire Form - PRE/ REC
Personal Force Field - END/ EGO
Ice Form - END/ DEX
Killer Instinct - EGO
Invulnerability - STR/ CON
Lightning Reflexes - DEX
Ego Form - CON/ END
Ego Surge - END
Telekinesis - EGO
Empathic Healing - PRE
Mindful Reinforcement - PRE
Psionic Healing - PRE
Defiance - CON
Enraged - STR
Shadow Form - END/ CON
Resurgence - CON

Archived Post
08-29-2009, 10:25 AM
You Have Pyre, right?

Thats pretty much it, right there.

As expected :p

People are going to tell you Pyre pyre pyre. Most of them either A) Haven't played Fire and just hear how Pyre is so OP, or B) Played Fire but didint' play wiuth the higher level powers.

Pyre IS good, but if thats all you do then your missing out on TONS of damage. Let me just highlight somethings...

Passive Defense vs Passive Offense -- This is a choice you need to make. Or later levels have both and swap roles as needed. A defense like invuln/regen/pff will keep you alive longer but you sacrifice literally nearly 80-100% damage bonus to do it. If you want to do the high DAMAGE, you want an energy form. The fire set has Fire Form, but it scales with PRE for damage which most people won't concentrate on unless you want to heal buff or do support. I recommend getting Ice Form instead, as it scales on END. With this form you will see a LOT LOT more damage.

Fireball + Unstable Accelerant advantage - Great opening salvo. AWESOME damage AND it will put a fire debuff on the mobs allowing all your future fire attacks to do something like 50% MORE damage.

Conflaguration is pretty meh on its own. Used with above it rocks.

Flashfire is often overlooked but its a nice DOT, does respectable damage with Fireball + UA, gives you energy, AND costs very little mana with no charge time. Its golden.

Archived Post
08-29-2009, 10:49 AM
As expected :p


Well, as far as Ive played, Pyre can kill every Henchman your level in an area around you, why bother with anything else?