Perks - Missable Ones and Perks in General

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Figured I would start this thread again so that people don't miss anything.

There are a number of what are called Lore that need to learned to fulfill some of the knowledge requirements. Some of these Lore items can be found outside of missions, in all sorts of places and some of them can be found in missions. There are only a handful of these so far, but I am sure there are more.

Listing of Lore for Knowledge Perks found in missions. (http://www.champions-online-wiki.com/wiki/Pieces_of_Knowledge_Perks_Found_in_Missions)

Listing of Lore for Knowledge Perks found outside missions. (http://www.champions-online-wiki.com/wiki/Pieces_of_Knowledge_Perks_Found_Outside_Missions)

If you find one that's not on the list, please list whats the title, which perk, location, neighborhood and the /loc of it.

I've compiled a pretty comprehensive list of the perks in general up to about the mid 20's. If you find something new, post it here!

Here is a link to the Perks page on the wiki. (http://www.champions-online-wiki.com/wiki/Perks)

I think also, there were a couple of perk related items that people were missing.
1. Mother nature can be a real…from the New Pollution Knowledge Perk in Canada
2. Clean Up the Town - from the Snake Gulch Main Arc
3. Who's the Fastest Gun in the West? - from the Snake Gulch Minor Arc
4. ARGENT Snow Thrush Knowledge Perk (found it once in CB and haven't been able to find it again)
5. Hoarfrost Hills Knowledge Perk
6. City Center Knowledge Perk

Also, for those people interested, here is a mission listing for the first 3 crisis zones:
Millennium City Tutorial (http://www.champions-online-wiki.com/wiki/Millennium_City_Tutorial)
Crisis in Canada! (http://www.champions-online-wiki.com/wiki/Crisis_in_Canada!)
Desert Disaster (http://www.champions-online-wiki.com/wiki/Desert_Disaster)

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Great work Lohr

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Yes, let this be the new thread since I really dont want to update my old one :)

Also can we confirm that is it not possible to miss a perk permanently due to being too high level, that is to say you can go back and do whatever it is, at any time later.


This would take a big load off a lot of achievement hunter's shoulders.

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I think also, there were a couple of perk related items that people were missing.
1. Mother nature can be a real…from the New Pollution Knowledge Perk in Canada


Has to do with Hiker's Horror, which may have been disabled. Quest was always a bit buggy, with mobs sinking into the environment mesh, thus not going past their trigger zone resetting the quest so it can be redone.


4. ARGENT Snow Thrush Knowledge Perk (found it once in CB and haven't been able to find it again)


Snowthrush pic (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v515/IS_Wolf/CO/?action=view&current=screenshot_2009-08-24-06-43-36.jpg). It's near a crashed bus, overlooking the pipeline.



5. Hoarfrost Hills Knowledge Perk


Not 100%, but I think that was this one (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v515/IS_Wolf/CO/?action=view&current=screenshot_2009-08-13-01-38-06.png). There's a lorebook close to it on a well too.

Like I said in the old thread, feel free to raid my album for the perk pics, just dowload them and reupload them elsewhere.



Also can we confirm that is it not possible to miss a perk permanently due to being too high level, that is to say you can go back and do whatever it is, at any time later.


Only way to miss out on a perk, is if you no longer have access to that zone. So, say you miss the big red bug one in the tutorial, then you're not going to get it ever again. Miss the Grond theft quest and leave the Desert Crisis and been to regular Desert/Canada, then you're SOL as well.

The ones within certain instances, you could always do again by teaming up with folks doing that quest.

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Yes, let this be the new thread since I really dont want to update my old one :)

Also can we confirm that is it not possible to miss a perk permanently due to being too high level, that is to say you can go back and do whatever it is, at any time later.


This would take a big load off a lot of achievement hunter's shoulders.

I had in both closed and open gone back and done older missions, which was how I got a lot of the info. Don't know if you can still do that.

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Has to do with Hiker's Horror, which may have been disabled. Quest was always a bit buggy, with mobs sinking into the environment mesh, thus not going past their trigger zone resetting the quest so it can be redone.



Snowthrush pic (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v515/IS_Wolf/CO/?action=view&current=screenshot_2009-08-24-06-43-36.jpg). It's near a crashed bus, overlooking the pipeline.




Not 100%, but I think that was this one (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v515/IS_Wolf/CO/?action=view&current=screenshot_2009-08-13-01-38-06.png). There's a lorebook close to it on a well too.

Like I said in the old thread, feel free to raid my album for the perk pics, just dowload them and reupload them elsewhere.



Only way to miss out on a perk, is if you no longer have access to that zone. So, say you miss the big red bug one in the tutorial, then you're not going to get it ever again. Miss the Grond theft quest and leave the Desert Crisis and been to regular Desert/Canada, then you're SOL as well.

The ones within certain instances, you could always do again by teaming up with folks doing that quest.

Which big red bug one in the tutorial?

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first alien spaceship crashed, near the mayor, walk on top of it to get it

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Which big red bug one in the tutorial?

Exploration perk for running on top of of the first bug spaceship in the tutorial.

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Nice idea with the wiki. What I'm missing is a Mini Map of every zone with marked respawn points... that would be very usefull...

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Which big red bug one in the tutorial?

Get on top of the crashed Qularr ship to the right of the mayor's tent, and to be more precise, get onto its head. And the perk will be earned.

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Here's one that I sttumbled onto in CB but then forgot about:

Secure the Perimeter:
Get inside the corridor along the top of the main wall or Steelhead and walk/fly the length of it. This is easy if you can fly or jump, if not you can run up the cliff next to the wall and get in that way.

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this thread is made of win.

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Oh, there's another lorebook on the same hill in Canada, as where Raven's speaker astral projection is. It's the same spot as where the portal to Rakshasa's realm was/is.

I've got a pic up for Bloodstone's orders, it's behind the support wall, where the Big Tear is. You can easily walk behind it, and it's also possible to get it without being on that mission. Just fly down to that level, dodge the mobs, get behind the wall and read it.

As for Eclipse's orders. They're located behind the pedestal behind which he's hovering. Kill him, walk around the pedestal and you should easily be able to see it.

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I'm getting reports you can get both sets of perks from Canada and Desert tutorials if you do a team withsomeone then drop after you get done with it but don't complete it and then you hopscotch over toe cananda and do that too..


can anyone confirm is this is real and if It is, if I'm going to re-roll I won't have the darn thing stripped from me if it IS a bug?

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Get on top of the crashed Qularr ship to the right of the mayor's tent, and to be more precise, get onto its head. And the perk will be earned.

I hate perks that you can't go back and get.

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Are there any perks in the Canada / Desert crisis zones you can't get anywhere else?

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I'm getting reports you can get both sets of perks from Canada and Desert tutorials if you do a team withsomeone then drop after you get done with it but don't complete it and then you hopscotch over toe cananda and do that too..


can anyone confirm is this is real and if It is, if I'm going to re-roll I won't have the darn thing stripped from me if it IS a bug?

I have both sets of perks and you don't need to team with anyone to get them,

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Are there any perks in the Canada / Desert crisis zones you can't get anywhere else?


You can't complete the 2 knowledge perks anyone where else, nor can you get the 3 vanquish perks. Unless Rakshasa, Ferd and Gigaton show up someplace else in the game.

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Oh, there's another lorebook on the same hill in Canada, as where Raven's speaker astral projection is. It's the same spot as where the portal to Rakshasa's realm was/is.

I've got a pic up for Bloodstone's orders, it's behind the support wall, where the Big Tear is. You can easily walk behind it, and it's also possible to get it without being on that mission. Just fly down to that level, dodge the mobs, get behind the wall and read it.

As for Eclipse's orders. They're located behind the pedestal behind which he's hovering. Kill him, walk around the pedestal and you should easily be able to see it.

I can't figure out how to get to look at the rest of the pics.

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I seem to be missing out on the Well-To-Do perk. Last time through it popped up after I got 1000 resources, but this time the progress bar appears to be maxed out at 25 but the resource count reads (-1/1000).

Thoughts? Did I screw something up, or is this a bug?

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I seem to be missing out on the Well-To-Do perk. Last time through it popped up after I got 1000 resources, but this time the progress bar appears to be maxed out at 25 but the resource count reads (-1/1000).

Thoughts? Did I screw something up, or is this a bug?

It's a bug, and it's been bugged for a while now.

I can't figure out how to get to look at the rest of the pics.

Check your PM, I'm sending you the direct link then.

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so what are we doing for hikers horror then? hoping the decvs fix it pronto? i need it =(

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so what are we doing for hikers horror then? hoping the decvs fix it pronto? i need it =(

I think its a location mission, so you can do it anytime, right?

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I think its a location mission, so you can do it anytime, right?

Pretty much, it only awards XP and resources from what I recall, so it shouldn't be that big of a deal to come back at a later point to complete it.

Yes, it's nice to do it right away, when you're in the neighbourhood. But sometimes it just takes a while, during CB, I think I was in my late 20s before I finally completed it, because I managed to find a respawned McCoy and swiftly nuked the mobs around him, thus setting him up for a normal respawn for the next player who came around.

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In the PvP cage match, I managed to unlock a perk called 'ceiling cat' by flying around above the cage. I wasn't running away, just, uh, taking a strategic overview. :o

Was in Open Beta, and haven't managed it since, but I played half a dozen matches and spent a bit of time above the cage in most of them. Could be based on a timer, on health when you go up there, or just a specific location on the ceiling above the cage.

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In the PvP cage match, I managed to unlock a perk called 'ceiling cat' by flying around above the cage. I wasn't running away, just, uh, taking a strategic overview. :o

Was in Open Beta, and haven't managed it since, but I played half a dozen matches and spent a bit of time above the cage in most of them. Could be based on a timer, on health when you go up there, or just a specific location on the ceiling above the cage.

I get it on every hero I've made, you basically need to be in the middle of the cage roof. You may need to not be flying. If you're not a hero capable of getting up there, I'd say you're screwed for this perk though.

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I seem to be missing out on the Well-To-Do perk. Last time through it popped up after I got 1000 resources, but this time the progress bar appears to be maxed out at 25 but the resource count reads (-1/1000).

Thoughts? Did I screw something up, or is this a bug?

Same thing happened to me on the next tier perk. I got Well-to-do, and now the next one is at -1/50000.

Bugged, as someone said above.

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I found another Lore perk,

Defender Research:
Psi Defender research
On top of the Psi building there are two balcony levels with some guys on them, the lore is in a note stashed under a food cart on one of those ledges.

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Does anyone have a complete list of any hidden perks in "crisis in canada" or "Southwest Desert Crisis"

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Also, Citizen Grond isn't on the wiki, it's a collection perk found on the dud bomb in the NW portion of the Atomic Wsteland.

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People, it is possible to get the perks from both crisis zones. Do the desert zone, and after killing Gigaton and moving back to the exit, DO NOT CLICK CONTINUE when it prompts you to start digging. Just close the window and simply walk up the rocks into the vault door and use it to get back into the crisis. Just be careful that pressing Z in that area will put you out of the crisis, so manually click on the button for exiting the vault.

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You can't complete the 2 knowledge perks anyone where else, nor can you get the 3 vanquish perks. Unless Rakshasa, Ferd and Gigaton show up someplace else in the game.

For the 3 vanquish perks, you can only get one of those, correct?

As for the knowledge ones, are we sure those are the only places for them?

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For the 3 vanquish perks, you can only get one of those, correct?

As for the knowledge ones, are we sure those are the only places for them?

Officially, you can get 2 max. Ferd and either Rak/Giga.

Unofficially, you can do the entirety of both crisis zones including the end missions. Finish the desert zone, then do the ending instance in the vault. When leaving, dont select "dig out" select "Crisis" or "To Crisis" and then go and do canada, and finish it normally. Then when you are back in real canada, fly over to desert and hand in the quest to Kaufman.

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Here's another one:

Exploration: Made in China
Do to the contact Lin Qi in Chinatown, go across the street from her and look forward and to the right. There should be an alleyway guarded by two lion-dog statues and with a half-dozen or so ninja guys there too, read the plaque on the wall next to the lion-dog.

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There isn't any missable Lore glowies in the tutorial, is there?

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In the PvP cage match, I managed to unlock a perk called 'ceiling cat' by flying around above the cage. I wasn't running away, just, uh, taking a strategic overview. :o

Was in Open Beta, and haven't managed it since, but I played half a dozen matches and spent a bit of time above the cage in most of them. Could be based on a timer, on health when you go up there, or just a specific location on the ceiling above the cage.

I got this perk on my character with the swinging travel power so I think you have to stand on top of the cage. It did really make me chuckle though :D

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Also, Citizen Grond isn't on the wiki, it's a collection perk found on the dud bomb in the NW portion of the Atomic Wsteland.

That one is in the unconfirmed section actually.

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Found another collectables search in Millenium City that couldn't see in here or on the wiki.

"African Art Collector": Find all the peices(sic) of African Art, scattered about City Center in Millenium City (1/4)

Drum found at /loc 6322, 311, 1844

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That one is in the unconfirmed section actually.

Actually this on is confirmed, found is last night. Was to tired to put it up on the wiki last night.

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anyone know where 'he who sent them up the river' mission is for the breakout at big house perk?

nevermind its achingly obvious and found it....


anyone got hikers horror to work yet? =(

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I'm thinking that some of the collection perks should actually be Knowles or exploration perks. Brass Ring, Get to the Choppa (if it still exisits) and Don't go chasing waterfalls should be exploration, while Citizen Grond should be a knowledge perk. They really don't fit into the collection category.

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Actually this on is confirmed, found is last night. Was to tired to put it up on the wiki last night.

Wasn't aware that you'd already found it in the mean time. :D
Anyway, did you manage to get access to my SS yet?
Or should I just post the links to them in here?

I'm thinking that some of the collection perks should actually be Knowles or exploration perks. Brass Ring, Get to the Choppa (if it still exisits) and Don't go chasing waterfalls should be exploration, while Citizen Grond should be a knowledge perk. They really don't fit into the collection category.

Yeah, but that is where Cryptic themselves put them. Placing them elsewhere, even if it makes more sense, could confuse folks.

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Nope, I think I have to create an account, I am just being lazy.

What is your global, can't seem to actually message you in game.

Also confirmed Ohoni's Made in China. Which makes me wonder what else is around there.

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What is your global, can't seem to actually message you in game.



Not part of the headstart.

Just hanging around the forums a bit, answering questions to stuff that I've already done and somewhat recall how I did it.

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Get to the Choppa still exists, MC 8334, 748, -270

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So for the two crisis knowledge perks, are those the only two or are there others I need to keep an eye out for that I cant come back to?

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So for the two crisis knowledge perks, are those the only two or are there others I need to keep an eye out for that I cant come back to?

Make sure you get ceiling cat in the PvP area. Once you pass 20 you have a different set of pvp areas.

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I have a question about the Crowns of Krim one. http://www.champions-online-wiki.com/wiki/The_Crowns_of_Krim

I read the note after defeating Talisman, but nothing happened. I didn't get a quest or anything. Was that all I needed to do to get that one rolling or is it bugged?

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I have a question about the Crowns of Krim one. http://www.champions-online-wiki.com/wiki/The_Crowns_of_Krim

I read the note after defeating Talisman, but nothing happened. I didn't get a quest or anything. Was that all I needed to do to get that one rolling or is it bugged?

All you have to do is read it.

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Make sure you get ceiling cat in the PvP area. Once you pass 20 you have a different set of pvp areas.

Which sucks, for those people that don't have a jump or flight power. I can't get up there with SS.

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So for the two crisis knowledge perks, are those the only two or are there others I need to keep an eye out for that I cant come back to?

There is only one Knowledge Perk for each crisis and then the associated Vanquish Perks.

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After looking around for a bit, I cant seem to find the knowledge perk in Desert Crises, can someone explain where it is?

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After looking around for a bit, I cant seem to find the knowledge perk in Desert Crises, can someone explain where it is?

The one for Desert Crisis requires you to complete all the quests in the desert crisis.

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Viper REcruitment: Viper Aptitude Test Two is in Canada -1821, 24, 2281

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Which sucks, for those people that don't have a jump or flight power. I can't get up there with SS.

somoene with force powers could blast you up. its happened to me ;)

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The one for Desert Crisis requires you to complete all the quests in the desert crisis.

Ah ok, I misunderstood what that one was, ty :)

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(Edit: Found it)

Just as a summation:

If we get the Following:

Millennium City Tutorial -

Red Bug Down (Exploration perk)

Burning Sands Crisis Area -

Out of the Wasteland (Knowledge Perk)

Vanquished Ferd (Defeat Perk)

Vanquished Gigaton (Defeat Perk)

Canada Crisis Area -

Raiders On The Storm (Knowledge Perk)

Vanquished Rakshasa (Defeat Perk)

Then once we get to the normal map area we should have all the weird perks that you might miss from the areas you can no longer get to, correct?

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I'm having trouble with
"Cleaning up the Town" and " Who's the Fastest Gun in the West?"

I can't seem to get them? I've searched all over Snake Gultch.

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People, it is possible to get the perks from both crisis zones. Do the desert zone, and after killing Gigaton and moving back to the exit, DO NOT CLICK CONTINUE when it prompts you to start digging. Just close the window and simply walk up the rocks into the vault door and use it to get back into the crisis. Just be careful that pressing Z in that area will put you out of the crisis, so manually click on the button for exiting the vault.


Ok, so once you get out of the vault and back in the crisis area. You then hop onto the helicopter and head to Canada. Do those missions, but then what? After you defeat the Raksasha how do you turn in the last quest for the Desert area? As it says you have to go to the vault and if you leave after fighting the Raksasha it takes you out of the Crisis area....

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it seems like you CAN outlevel quests...either that or this specific quest I'm thinking about it bugged


basically I did all of desert and got to 15 on a character, and when I go to canada, there are quests such as the dead alive quest with mister zombie that I no longer get offered...either the npc is bugged or its not there for level 15's

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Ok, so once you get out of the vault and back in the crisis area. You then hop onto the helicopter and head to Canada. Do those missions, but then what? After you defeat the Raksasha how do you turn in the last quest for the Desert area? As it says you have to go to the vault and if you leave after fighting the Raksasha it takes you out of the Crisis area....

You can hand in the quest to Kaufman, in the non crisis desert area. It looks like its unfinished, but you can hand it in nonetheless.

And I didnt get ceiling cat, I forgot that pvp arena was 20 and below :(

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Thanks for that.

Just one more thing though...

The perk: Out of the Wasteland

Says I'm missing Gallant Colonel Gertz and Grond Theft Altercation. Do you get those quests in the Crisis area or after you reach the main map, as Kaufman never gave me these quests.

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Gallant Colonel Gertz is from the pack on the ground just inside the vault.
Grond Theft Altercation is given when near the statue's head, then you just pick up the horn next to it.

Another one in that set is the first one, I picked my research path and did Begone Fission before talking to Kaufman so I never got the part of the quest he gives, thus maknig the perk unattainable.

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OMFG....

*cries*

This was for my one character that I was trying to get as many Perks possible on.

I've just finished doing both the Crisis areas and was preparing to get my head start perks.

I know that doesn't seem like much, but I actually took the time to grind out 1000 Qualar in the tutorial, as I'm dual blades and thought that would be an *easy* way to get them. @_@

Then I completed it and saw the next one for 5000. ;_;

I also grinded some money so I could respec a power i wanted to change...

I've deleted the character to do it over again, but I don't if I should start again or just commit seppuku...

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OMFG....

*cries*

This was for my one character that I was trying to get as many Perks possible on.

I've just finished doing both the Crisis areas and was preparing to get my head start perks.

I know that doesn't seem like much, but I actually took the time to grind out 1000 Qualar in the tutorial, as I'm dual blades and thought that would be an *easy* way to get them. @_@

Then I completed it and saw the next one for 5000. ;_;

I also grinded some money so I could respec a power i wanted to change...

I've deleted the character to do it over again, but I don't if I should start again or just commit seppuku...

There are Qularr in the Desert and (I think) Monster Island.

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Lol, yeah I knew there would probably be more else where, It's just terrible that I'm now not going to get the credit for the 1,034 I killed...

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Actually this on is confirmed, found is last night. Was to tired to put it up on the wiki last night.

Of course it's confirmed, I said it was there.


I'm thinking that some of the collection perks should actually be Knowles or exploration perks. Brass Ring, Get to the Choppa (if it still exisits) and Don't go chasing waterfalls should be exploration, while Citizen Grond should be a knowledge perk. They really don't fit into the collection category.

Some of them do "give" you stuff, like Citizen Grond gives you a photo and Brass Ring gives you a brass ring. They aren't actual inventory items or anything, but they're "theoretical loot".

Also, about the chopper, the jet that lifts off from MC used to be a helicopter, and I know you used to get that perk the first time you spawned in MC. I haven't gotten it since they changed the vehicle though.

There are a few that I'm missing though, Purple with Rage: Detroit River Bound, and Snake Gultch: Clean up the Town and Fastest Gun in the West. Never seen these.

Might as well add one of my favs, Monster Island: Manimal Crossing. Go to the lone hut in the SW corner of the boneyard, talk to the NPC, buy his item.

Also, the remaining two Machine Revolution sub-perks are found inside the starting sub of Lemuria.

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anyone know where to get the quest detroit river bound? need it for purple with rage i believe

edit: also, why the hell is it only 3 fingers ebril that spawns for jailbreak? could have sworn they said this was fixed =(

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I am going to be busy putting up the rest of the missions that I have, and Detroit River bound is one of them.

Go to the last pier in the lower left hand corner, the last one that is straight. Go rescue a bound Black Ace that's surrounded by New Purple Gang members and he will give you the mission after you rescue him.

Also I unlocked a new Rogue's Gallaery one, Littlest Pet Shop Boy which is for defeating Pets.

And Ohoni, by confirmed I just mean me going there and getting it so I can snag the icon so I can put it up on the wiki, ala made in China and the Dragon's gate.

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I am going to be busy putting up the rest of the missions that I have, and Detroit River bound is one of them.

Go to the last pier in the lower left hand corner, the last one that is straight. Go rescue a bound Black Ace that's surrounded by New Purple Gang members and he will give you the mission after you rescue him.

Also I unlocked a new Rogue's Gallaery one, Littlest Pet Shop Boy which is for defeating Pets.

And Ohoni, by confirmed I just mean me going there and getting it so I can snag the icon so I can put it up on the wiki, ala made in China and the Dragon's gate.

yeah found it now, many thanks. didnt want to miss it ;)

god damn i wish jailbreakm worked as i bet there is a perk for finishing it...

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Which sucks, for those people that don't have a jump or flight power. I can't get up there with SS.

There's a quest reward in Canada, that gives you a primary utility item that has a nice long recharge, but triggers acrobatics.

Eventually I believe some other travel powers will be craftable, but the acrobatics one is very fun, and I'm never going to delete or destroy the item, if I can help it.

It's something or other feline genes, or something like that.

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Taking some time to look up the ones that are listed as unverified on the wiki.

Found the dead tree one in the city.

Named A Tree Grows in Westside. Gets you 25 points and is at location 2530 211 -722

The Get to The Choppa one is right where it said it was.

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I hate* you guys :mad: Because of this thread I had to redo my lvl 14 so I could get the crisis zone and MC perks. I sure hope there are no more perks that are missable because I would hate to do all this again (already have ran through the beginning content about 10 times).

*to clarify for overly sensitive/thin skinned types, hate = thanks for the info.

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Anyone planning on a perk tracker site, the CoH badge tracker sites are massivly popular, if you havnt seen them there are a few that can be found via a search engine, it would give you some idea of the format.
The Wiki is great by the way, couldnt you incorporate a tracker.

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There's a quest reward in Canada, that gives you a primary utility item that has a nice long recharge, but triggers acrobatics.

Eventually I believe some other travel powers will be craftable, but the acrobatics one is very fun, and I'm never going to delete or destroy the item, if I can help it.

It's something or other feline genes, or something like that.

Ya, feline metabolic serum. Beat up the hunter-patriot leut, get the brain trust mission, beat up Lynx, get her mission, disarm bomb, talk to justicar, poof, acrobatics with a 30 minute recharge.

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Another inside Mission perk.

Qliphotic Lore Fragment #1. Pile of books inside "The Shadow Script" mission from Lt. David Folger in Canada, level 27.

/loc is 1862, 31, 533 although not sure if they are valid inside an instance.

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Alright, so there are two areas in the Desert where I'm afraid I've totally missed some missions.

Just east of Greenskin is an area with hostile PRIMUS troops around level 9-10.

Just east of that is an Oasis with level 18ish DEMON members around. Here there is a lore perk next to a Master Villain mob, and you get attacked by two mobs affiliated with "Elder Worm" after killing the Master Villain and reading the lore item.


It seems like there should be some missions or something sending me to both areas. I'm now level 25, so did I totally miss these? I did both crisis zones, so perhaps the contact was not showing a ! when I got there... If I have I'll be mad, as I've been trying to be extra careful to get everything as I go. :(

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it seems like you CAN outlevel quests...either that or this specific quest I'm thinking about it bugged


basically I did all of desert and got to 15 on a character, and when I go to canada, there are quests such as the dead alive quest with mister zombie that I no longer get offered...either the npc is bugged or its not there for level 15's
You have to do some other missions to unlock that contact, iirc it's the level 7-9s from Justicar.

Alright, so there are two areas in the Desert where I'm afraid I've totally missed some missions.

Just east of Greenskin is an area with hostile PRIMUS troops around level 9-10.
Do the Minding the Mutants or whatever it's called. You need it to unlock the contact for those missions.

Just east of that is an Oasis with level 18ish DEMON members around. Here there is a lore perk next to a Master Villain mob, and you get attacked by two mobs affiliated with "Elder Worm" after killing the Master Villain and reading the lore item.
I've been completely unable to find something that unlocks a contact for these guys. No drops or other missions seem to unlock their mission line, if they have one.

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Yay! I finally figured out how multi-quote a thread.


Just east of that is an Oasis with level 18ish DEMON members around. Here there is a lore perk next to a Master Villain mob, and you get attacked by two mobs affiliated with "Elder Worm" after killing the Master Villain and reading the lore item.


I found this one as well, by pure chance and i have done all the missions in the Desert that lead up to that level range and have found nothing that leads me to them either. Maybe a mission contact in MC gives it to you since there are tons of Demons in MC?

Anyone planning on a perk tracker site, the CoH badge tracker sites are massivly popular, if you havnt seen them there are a few that can be found via a search engine, it would give you some idea of the format.
The Wiki is great by the way, couldnt you incorporate a tracker.

Having played CoH for 4 years I am quite familiar with Badge-Hunter.com. Curious as to what you would want a tracker website to do for you (beside the obvious tracking perks)? Now I may be the minority in this, but I think the in game PDA does a wonderful job of this. Part of the problem with CoH badges was that you didn't know what badges were for what and something like history plaques, you didn't know if you hit them all, so it made a lot of sense to have something outside of the game.

Personally, I am an excel junky (but that's mostly because I live and breath it at work), and i initially started out with a number of excel spreadsheets and discovered that it was easier/helpful to use the PDA.

The PDA in game does an excellent job of letting you know what items you need and what ones you don't. As well as the which ones are in progress and completed. The only thing that I think would be tracking of how many perks completed/perk points people might have. However as of right now, there is no way to see what actual Perks someone else might have aside from titles.

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Another inside Mission perk.

Qliphotic Lore Fragment #1. Pile of books inside "The Shadow Script" mission from Lt. David Folger in Canada, level 27.

/loc is 1862, 31, 533 although not sure if they are valid inside an instance.

Awesome! Adding to the wiki.

There's a quest reward in Canada, that gives you a primary utility item that has a nice long recharge, but triggers acrobatics.

Eventually I believe some other travel powers will be craftable, but the acrobatics one is very fun, and I'm never going to delete or destroy the item, if I can help it.

It's something or other feline genes, or something like that.

I pre-ordered from gamestop so I assume I get my level 0 flight, which I am thinking I might be able to use to get to those places I can't. I am sitting at 18, so I can def wait till tomorrow to get the levels.

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Nope, I think I have to create an account, I am just being lazy.


Some of this stuff you might already have, tried to cut out as much as I could, if I had the impression that you already had it. Hope they help you find the stuff too, I'm not exactly a wiz at SS.

Bloodstone's orders (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v515/IS_Wolf/CO/?action=view&current=screenshot_2009-08-26-21-53-23.jpg). Same place as where the main Qilopthic (or however you spell it) is. It's behind the wall with a waterfall and the tear in front of it.

Eclipse's orders btw are behind the Pedestal behind which he hovers. Easy enough to find really.

Viper Stuff 1 ([URL=http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v515/IS_Wolf/CO/?action=view&current=screenshot_2009-08-21-17-02-27.jpg)

Viper Stuff 2 (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v515/IS_Wolf/CO/?action=view&current=screenshot_2009-08-21-17-09-12.jpg). Hard to see, I know, but it's underneath the tree.

Viper Stuff 3 (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v515/IS_Wolf/CO/?action=view&current=screenshot_2009-08-21-23-05-04.jpg)

Viper Stuff 4 (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v515/IS_Wolf/CO/?action=view&current=screenshot_2009-08-22-02-06-43.jpg). Hard to see again, just to the right of my character on the wall, is a file folder.

Viper Stuff 5 (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v515/IS_Wolf/CO/?action=view&current=screenshot_2009-08-23-02-23-25.jpg)

IIRC, this was the Hoarfrost history one (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v515/IS_Wolf/CO/?action=view&current=screenshot_2009-08-13-01-38-06.png). It's in the same village as that reporter who has you checking for Gadroon, and near the whole Argent vs Hunter-Patriot feud.


Psi Info] (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v515/IS_Wolf/CO/?action=view&current=screenshot_2009-08-22-21-31-32.jpg), it was on a park bench, but said bench kinda got demolished in a fight I had with the local mobs, this is about the best I can do.

Hunter-Patriot/Destroyer file (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v515/IS_Wolf/CO/?action=view&current=screenshot_2009-08-23-03-11-48.jpg), it's in the Red Base near the paintball compound send up by the Hunter-Patriots

All in the Stroessen's Peak village.
Tel Info 1 (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v515/IS_Wolf/CO/?action=view&current=screenshot_2009-08-26-15-31-10.jpg)

Tel Info 2 (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v515/IS_Wolf/CO/?action=view&current=screenshot_2009-08-26-15-31-48.jpg)

Tel Info 3 (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v515/IS_Wolf/CO/?action=view&current=screenshot_2009-08-26-15-42-30.jpg)


And just because folks kept asking about it during CB and OB, figured you might want to stick it on the wiki.
Shutdown Code 1] (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v515/IS_Wolf/CO/?action=view&current=screenshot_2009-08-24-07-01-52.jpg)

Shutdown Code 2 (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v515/IS_Wolf/CO/?action=view&current=screenshot_2009-08-24-07-07-24.jpg)

Shutdown Code 3 (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v515/IS_Wolf/CO/?action=view&current=screenshot_2009-08-24-07-07-33.jpg)

Shutdown Code 4 (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v515/IS_Wolf/CO/?action=view&current=screenshot_2009-08-24-07-10-15.jpg)

Shutdown Code 5 (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v515/IS_Wolf/CO/?action=view&current=screenshot_2009-08-24-07-13-45.jpg)

Shutdown Code 6 (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v515/IS_Wolf/CO/?action=view&current=screenshot_2009-08-24-07-15-07.jpg)

Oh and I can confirm the Psi-Destroyer file, being on the top left balcony of the Psi Building, if you approach it from the south. On the table, near a plate. Some mobs on the lower second balcony


Ok, so once you get out of the vault and back in the crisis area. You then hop onto the helicopter and head to Canada. Do those missions, but then what? After you defeat the Raksasha how do you turn in the last quest for the Desert area? As it says you have to go to the vault and if you leave after fighting the Raksasha it takes you out of the Crisis area....

Log off for about 20 minutes, then the instance will collapse, and you'll end up back in Canada Crisis.

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I got a collection perk in progress called Offensive Line. The objective is Tackle the Heavies (x/5). Anyone know any more info on this?

Also have a heroic perk called Communication Breakdown. Have to disable 3 comms array. I just need the primary. Don't remember where exactly the other two are. I believe one was by Project Awakening.

Then there is Pacify the Spirits which has 4 different targets. Bjorn, Kaiti, Khanukh, and Freki and Geri. Khanukh is the only one I have found. He was a wolf (tough villain I believe) somewhere on the eastern side of Canada.

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I got a collection perk in progress called Offensive Line. The objective is Tackle the Heavies (x/5). Anyone know any more info on this?


Did that one during CB. It's kill 5 Sparc Troopers and 5 Bestial Prisoners or something like that. The escaped prisoners who kinda are Sabretooth wannabees anyway.



Also have a heroic perk called Communication Breakdown. Have to disable 3 comms array. I just need the primary. Don't remember where exactly the other two are. I believe one was by Project Awakening.


All three are in Project Awakening, one is just inside the little side base at the side of the main compound.

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Bloodstone's orders (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v515/IS_Wolf/CO/?action=view&current=screenshot_2009-08-26-21-53-23.jpg). Same place as where the main Qilopthic (or however you spell it) is. It's behind the wall with a waterfall and the tear in front of it.

Eclipse's orders btw are behind the Pedestal behind which he hovers. Easy enough to find really.

Which zone?


Psi Info] (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v515/IS_Wolf/CO/?action=view&current=screenshot_2009-08-22-21-31-32.jpg), it was on a park bench, but said bench kinda got demolished in a fight I had with the local mobs, this is about the best I can do.
Is this in the same park where the Diary is?


Oh and I can confirm the Psi-Destroyer file, being on the top left balcony of the Psi Building, if you approach it from the south. On the table, near a plate. Some mobs on the lower second balcony

Yeah, I just can't get up there to get the darn thing without some sort of flight.

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Then there is Pacify the Spirits which has 4 different targets. Bjorn, Kaiti, Khanukh, and Freki and Geri. Khanukh is the only one I have found. He was a wolf (tough villain I believe) somewhere on the eastern side of Canada.

Which categories does this fall under, heroic or collection?

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Which categories does this fall under, heroic or collection?

It was under heroic

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Has anyone said anything about a perk tracking system, sort of like the mission tracking system. At least have a list of the perks that you are working on, sometime unknowingly. :)

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All three are in Project Awakening, one is just inside the little side base at the side of the main compound.

Thanks. Found the final one I was looking for. Was at -3146 44 1706 for future reference.

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Has anyone said anything about a perk tracking system, sort of like the mission tracking system. At least have a list of the perks that you are working on, sometime unknowingly. :)

Yeah, press k in game, it brings up all the perks and you can select which ones you have completed versus which ones are in progress.

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Yeah, press k in game, it brings up all the perks and you can select which ones you have completed versus which ones are in progress.

Wow, didn't realize you could press K. I have been pressing J and tabbing over to perks.

Found a part of the Teleios' Experiments Knowledge perk. 4th part at loc 2077 102 2073

And another Perk while I'm at it. Johnston's Private Reserve under exploration. In Canada, loc 2208 248 2866. It's a box surrounded by rocks.

Found Kaiti as well. Canada still. Was a level 30 tough villain bear that was listed as Marauder not Kaiti. Was hanging out around 2348 408 -750

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Dardove, which neighborhoods were Johnston' Private Reserve and Kaiti located in?

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Dardove, which neighborhoods were Johnston' Private Reserve and Kaiti located in?

Burial Butte for the reserve and Kigatilik's Maw for Kaiti.

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The Crowns of Krim - Bloodstones Orders
a little red book found in downtown MC, behind the big Qlipothic Tear you close at the end of "****** Alliance" Mission.
Walk around the pillar in front of which the Tear is and it will be there.

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hmmm, i got vanquish Director from a door mission in the desert, armour piercing

not sure if thats normal or not :p

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Did you mention Lynx Fold waterfall slide yet... I explored CN as a Burrow Powered Man Bunny Might.

Some PERKS are high without a ladder and favoure the flyer. other times its the path your take and the time you take.. PERKs, Lore abound... In my philosophy "If it Glows Click it"

Sadly no Perks for exploring IronClads Cannon barrel..
I flew in and was ejected like a John Bull cannon shell.

The Crafting table books the wall plaques.. the list is rich with perils.
See it pays to learn Yeti and Bigfoot..
when you're the appropriate level they loosen up a bit and deal out the Mish..

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The one thing that stands out about this thread is the ammount of players that it has united who are of a like mind, PERK HUNTERS, surely this is great grounds for the founding of a SG, I suggest someone forms a SG that is perk hunting based, I for one would support, and join it, and surely based on the ammount of people that have posted on this thread it would be a powerfull SG, and we would be happy to help and support each other. Many SG's have inner rivalry because of disjointed values.
Whoever founds it give it a name that reflects the interest of the members. For example dont call it " DESTROYERS" , or ," RULERS OF THE SMURFS" or " DEATH FROM ABOVE" you get the picture, a name like "HUNTERS" ( you get my meaning ) would be more appropriate.
My point being we would be made up of members who have like interests.
No need to recruit, no need to invite random players, there are enough in this thread to have a SG.
If someone has already gone down this road PLEASE let me know.

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I for one would love to join a Perk Hunters SG.

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I for one would love to join a Perk Hunters SG.

"PERK HUNTERS", thats the perfect name, I would set one up myself but, I have no experiance in that sort of thing.
Come on someone take the lead PLEASE, " don't forget to invite me "

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In my hunt to complete the pacify the spirits perk, I have noticed that there are two Khanukhs. One is a low level version (around 10, but the level seems to change each time on them) and a high level version (around level 30).

The lower level version is around loc 603 88 716, which places it near the Brain Storming quest. The higher level version is at Stroessen's Peak around 2500 139 1952. I don't know whether they did this on purpose or it is a bug and one of the others is supposed to show up in one of those spots.

Also got another heroic perk for killing a Rampaging Teleioraptor in Stroesson's Peak. It was at around 908 144 883. Name of the Perk was "The Raptor Whisperer"

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Just to reiterate, hiker's horror (or whatever corresponds to Mother Nature can be a real ...) is still MIA right?

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Just found this lore unlock while destroying items while chatting:

http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/1375/mechanon.jpg

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Coordinates for Three Coins (missing from the wiki): 8575 191 -1042

Coordinates for the Mechanon lore: 5794 200 -1159

Also, I went looking all over City Center and couldn't find any further African Art pieces.

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Just found this lore unlock while destroying items while chatting:

http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/1375/mechanon.jpg

Mystery of Mechanon, that's a new one. Interesting, gotta get this perk first before you can talk to Silverback about Mechanon.

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I can't help but be a little bummed out regarding not knowing of Red Bug Down (or whatever it's called) all throughout beta. I should've checked when I had the chance, but now I'm flat out of luck in terms of getting it. I actually followed the perks list for guidance on what missions I had to complete and who to talk to in order to get everything else! But I never would've thought of walking on top of a crashed ship for a perk.

I wouldn't even have looked this up in the first place if I wasn't actually curious about if that named hound demon in the Canada Crisis whose only purpose now is to sometimes aggro you while doing the pilot escort mission gave a perk. Apparently, the only Vanquished perks in the two Crisis zones are for Ferd, Gigaton, and Raksasha. Guess I'm short one anyway.

Only other perk I never thought to look for was, of course, Ceiling Cat, but I can live without that since I've learned from CoH that superheroes and PvP don't mix well. Especially with how I hear defensives are functioning now.

I dunno, best I can hope for is that someday they'll let us replay the tutorial and Crisis zones again in the future. Right now, the only one I think you can replay (at least I saw the option in late Closed Beta) is Lemuria. But of course, Lemuria and Monster Island are exceptions, as they're individual instances... They'd have to create the same for those first three otherwise public zones, which would probably wind up being far more trouble than they're worth just because a few people didn't know about something or other on their first characters and felt too attached to them to reroll. That's just how I see it.

That said, thanks for keeping this topic and in-progress Wiki page rolling for folks who, unlike me, actually research the forums before hopping in and only later wonder if they're missing anything. And as is often addressed, other people can't see them anyway unless they actively go to your character's page and scroll all the way down to the bottom of your Completed Missions list. :P

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Yeah, press k in game, it brings up all the perks and you can select which ones you have completed versus which ones are in progress.

Thanks, I know how to access the Perks window. That is not a HUD tracking system like the mission tracking system. Having a HUD Perk tracking system that updates evertime you, say, complete a mission that is part of that perk, or collect an item that is part of the perk, whatever it maybe, would be a great help and would ensure you dont miss that perk. I dont want to go back to finish up Perks, after i have passed that area/mission. If i know grinidng an item or a mob is part of a Perk while Im doing that mission or in that area I will do it.

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Thanks, I know how to access the Perks window. That is not a HUD tracking system like the mission tracking system. Having a HUD Perk tracking system that updates evertime you, say, complete a mission that is part of that perk, or collect an item that is part of the perk, whatever it maybe, would be a great help and would ensure you dont miss that perk. I dont want to go back to finish up Perks, after i have passed that area/mission. If i know grinidng an item or a mob is part of a Perk while Im doing that mission or in that area I will do it.

There are Rogue's Gallery Perks for almost every faction in the game.

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But a kill tracker that appears like the mission tracker would be nice and easyer then hit k, search for perk check numbers needed.

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That would be nice, but I do not have the time, nor the ability to do something like that.

But then again, I am old fashioned, hitting k and scrolling for a second to see where I am at, isn't going to save me a whole lot of time.

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Here is a list of all the perks that give achievements in Steam:

http://steamcommunity.com/stats/ChampionsOnline/achievements/

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Have they changed the pics of the perks in game?

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There are Rogue's Gallery Perks for almost every faction in the game.

And then some. At least some nemesis minions like "alien" have their own entry (1st one is "I believe"), but I haven't seen them anywhere else. Possibly the pirates, and perhaps others as well?

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Have they changed the pics of the perks in game?

No, I think it is just that steam uses modified images for their achievements.

And then some. At least some nemesis minions like "alien" have their own entry (1st one is "I believe"), but I haven't seen them anywhere else. Possibly the pirates, and perhaps others as well?

Yeah, they all do. The cowboy one is vigilance committee for the first tier, Deputy for the second, and Sheriff for the final one.

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No, I think it is just that steam uses modified images for their achievements.



Yeah, they all do. The cowboy one is vigilance committee for the first tier, Deputy for the second, and Sheriff for the final one.

Manimals is Safari, Big Game hunter.... cant remember the third

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Manimals is Safari, Big Game hunter.... cant remember the third

Nemesis as in the nemesis you make at 25 or something else?

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Nemesis as in the nemesis you make at 25 or something else?

Yup thats the bunny :)
There are Rogue Gallery Perks for each type of Nemesis Minions

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Transmit and Receive - Heroic
Defeat the guards at both large Satellite dishes in Massassauga Hills. (Project Awakening)

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Mystery of Mechanon, that's a new one. Interesting, gotta get this perk first before you can talk to Silverback about Mechanon.

Right to add if not already stated he has a Nun a Sister i n the Balconey of the
Belle Steele Saloon in Snake gulch and of course the EVil ATM in La Bario West Side yo.. By El Gato and BASH

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Check it out! (http://www.champions-online-wiki.com/wiki/File:Millennium_City_Map.png)

My somewhat first attempt at marking up a map. Sucks too cause remember seeing blank maps back in CB. Also, the Dragon's Roost marker is wrong. The cross hairs mark the 0/0 on the map.

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Looks good.

You missed the Dark helmet though when jumping into the holographic dark helmet in front of the battle of detroid museum :)

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Looks good.

You missed the Dark helmet though when jumping into the holographic dark helmet in front of the battle of detroid museum :)

I didn't put it on there cause you really can't tell where it is with the giant indicator. There are a couple I am missing, plus all the spawn points. Would love a clean map.

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is in MC, 8307 748 -313

Just a bit SE of the Argent building, there are two buildings that have what looks like a - on the top (when looking at the map) and in between them is a building that looks like a square. You should see the helicopter on the landing pad on that square building.

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Thanks, I know how to access the Perks window. That is not a HUD tracking system like the mission tracking system.

Yeah, I wish that what you could do is set your mission tracker to track active perks, via a toggle or somethign in the mission journal. I wouldn't usually want it on, but sometimes it'd be good, like when farming enemies specifically for a perk, or for example the "cave diver" perk in Lemuria, from diving in each cave in Undying Reefs, which can be a serious pain to know which you have and haven't been in, and how deep you need to get for the perk to register it.

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well its not missable, but the 5000 irradiates perk is called WMD :D

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Kings of Edom number 4 is east of project greenskin in the oasis, guarded by a mastervillian. on the 'altar'.
Also got two Viper S.E.R.P.E.N.T eastish of burning sands, both in green huts/tents. Dont have exact locations.

No achievement for dancing in the club in MC either.... BOOOO

Can't get 'top of the world' to work, been on the top of all the towers in Reneissance square, but no perk

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Desert Bounty Hunter
Arrest 5 wandering Supervillains

I have found three - here are screenshots to help find the area they are wandering about:

http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/9558/dbh1.jpg
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/4893/dbh2.jpg
http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/2977/dbh3.jpg (little helper died bringing you this screenshot... the thing refused leaving the ui in)

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PSI Lore on Mind Inc building balcony. (Medusa mission location)
Lore is a pamphlet on a table.

Also a journal entry found by examining the bookcase next to the door control panel in the mission 'In-Psi Job' -Might have to be in mission to get this entry!

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Desert Bounty Hunter
Arrest 5 wandering Supervillains

I have found three - here are screenshots to help find the area they are wandering about:

http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/9558/dbh1.jpg
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/4893/dbh2.jpg
http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/2977/dbh3.jpg (little helper died bringing you this screenshot... the thing refused leaving the ui in)


There is one supervillain you have to arrest that's in stronghold for a mission, wonder if he counts

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There is one supervillain you have to arrest that's in stronghold for a mission, wonder if he counts

No, I have done all the missions.

Neanderthal and Wind...something... are not among those. They must be wandering in some wierd spot I havent ran through yet.
Then again it took me ages to find Darkmoon and he is next to a mission hub / respawn :)

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Wind is over by the space ship. Don't remember where the other one is off the top of my head, but he is probably around there too.

Edit: Also of note. I found another part of The Harrowing on Monster Isle. Location is around 1783 90 -1915 in the Feral Tangle. It is near the map point that says Mal Zver.

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Neanderthal is somewhere near Area 51 i think it was the north gate.

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I'm working on the Pit Viper perk and need #10. I go to the location according to the wiki, but that pit does not register and I think I had already visited it previously.

Any ideas where the real #10 is? Thanks.

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I'm working on the Pit Viper perk and need #10. I go to the location according to the wiki, but that pit does not register and I think I had already visited it previously.

Any ideas where the real #10 is? Thanks.

The wiki has the locations of pits 9 and 10 reversed.

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I'm working on the Pit Viper perk and need #10. I go to the location according to the wiki, but that pit does not register and I think I had already visited it previously.

Any ideas where the real #10 is? Thanks.

If I remember this correctly, I realized there was a perk after the fact, so I think they might be close to each other. I know someone just reversed 9 and 10 locations on the wiki, so maybe try 9.

Also, Desert Bounty Hunter is Heroic?

And while I am thinking about it, everybody keep your eyes peeled for the City Center Perk, no one has found it yet.

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Canada Spawn Camper and therefore Canada Explorer appear to be currently bugged and uncompleteable for at least some of those who didn't do Canada Crisis - the Steelhead spawnpoint doesn't register.

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Canada Spawn Camper and therefore Canada Explorer appear to be currently bugged and uncompleteable for at least some of those who didn't do Canada Crisis - the Steelhead spawnpoint doesn't register.

Even, if you've done it, then it still bugs. It goes by the one in regular Canada and not Crisis Canada.
Oh and it's been bugged since CB or so. Throughout OB anyway.

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If I remember this correctly, I realized there was a perk after the fact, so I think they might be close to each other. I know someone just reversed 9 and 10 locations on the wiki, so maybe try 9.

Also, Desert Bounty Hunter is Heroic?

And while I am thinking about it, everybody keep your eyes peeled for the City Center Perk, no one has found it yet.

Thanks Lohr and Rreighra, I thought I had tried it but I'll try tonight.

And I'm with you Mike000, I believe that is broken.

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It might not be, I was able to get the spawn camper in Open Beta.

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It might not be, I was able to get the spawn camper in Open Beta.

Then it was glitchy at best, because it didn't trigger for me.
Then again, I did utilize the log-out trick with Rakshasa on that character, only to finish off the Desert Crisis, so maybe there's a connection and that you do need to do the Canada Crisis fully in order to get it... Hmmm.. :confused:

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got them both in headstart (did only the desert crisis cause i didnt know the trick to do both)

http://img158.imageshack.us/i/screenshot2009090219132.jpg/

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It might not be, I was able to get the spawn camper in Open Beta.

LOTS of stuff that worked in open beta is broken now: the Field Surge power, the Healing Drones power, the "My Lost Foot" quest, the "Downtown Dustoff" perk/optional subquest, the "Free the Human Test Subjects" objective, the "Hiker's Horor" mission, ad nausem.

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Please actually open tickets through escape -> report a bug. I do this for the ones which affect me but I'm not high/clairvoyant enough to experience some of the others. They don't read these forums as much, and even if they did it's not a good way to get things fixed compared to opening a ticket


:)

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I've got about a dozen open tickets atm...and about 5 times as many "resolved" ones that still don't work. Hopefullly they're at least in process of being fixed.

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If I remember this correctly, I realized there was a perk after the fact, so I think they might be close to each other. I know someone just reversed 9 and 10 locations on the wiki, so maybe try 9.

Also, Desert Bounty Hunter is Heroic?

And while I am thinking about it, everybody keep your eyes peeled for the City Center Perk, no one has found it yet.

Yes, Desert Bounty Hunter is under heroic.

Was just looking for the city center perk myself since I don't I didn't have it complete and I didn't see it on the wiki.

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as far as the canada steelhead spawn point, does anyone actually have this

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Just got:
Adaware

for looking at the floating billboards in Ren Centre (only 5 of them count towards the perk)

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Wind is over by the space ship. Don't remember where the other one is off the top of my head, but he is probably around there too.
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ok found wind just as you said:
http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/8005/dbh4.jpg

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i can confiirmm after getting purple haze (kill 5000 new purple chumps) thats the end, there are no further kill perks above 5000.

thank god ;)

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Just got:
Adaware

for looking at the floating billboards in Ren Centre (only 5 of them count towards the perk)

I think it's actually specific ones.

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Wind is over by the space ship. Don't remember where the other one is off the top of my head, but he is probably around there too.

Edit: Also of note. I found another part of The Harrowing on Monster Isle. Location is around 1783 90 -1915 in the Feral Tangle. It is near the map point that says Mal Zver.

Remember which part? Gotta be either 3, 6 or 8.

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the "Free the Human Test Subjects" objective,

If, the Human Test subjects is the one in Canada, they changed it. Prior the civvies got out of a vehicle and walked to the building and door, while under Viper Guard. Now, you just have to open the door of the building to set them free.

i can confiirmm after getting purple haze (kill 5000 new purple chumps) thats the end, there are no further kill perks above 5000.

thank god ;)

5000 is the limit for all the mob groups, as far as I recall from CB.
Someone had a perk listing going there as well, and they had all the mobs up to 5000, with the various titles as well. Course those posts are long since gone bye bye.

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If, the Human Test subjects is the one in Canada, they changed it. Prior the civvies got out of a vehicle and walked to the building and door, while under Viper Guard. Now, you just have to open the door of the building to set them free.


No, actually - killing the villian, getting her keycard, and opening the door does nothing. Your way is how it worked in beta.

Killing ALL the Vipers in the area while the prisoners are walking to the door will accomplish the mission.

Which means you can only accomplish it in a 30-second window every 15 minutes or so. Kinda like the "go save whatshisname, you've got 10 minutes, hope there's no line" mission also in Canada.

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Remember which part? Gotta be either 3, 6 or 8.

Just doublechecked it. It is part 6. I have part 3 as well, just don't remember where I got it.

Edit: Also found Part 8 of Qliphothic Lore in Feral Tangle. It's at loc 429 349 -2750. It's on a jeep next to gadget boy who gives you his part of the mechanon lore.

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Just picked up manimal crossing and noticed it was listed as unverified in the wiki. It is a collection perk and uses the default collection icon.

Other ones that were unverified.

Johnston's Private Reserve. It is exploration and uses the default exploration icon.

Get to the Choppa. The helicopter in question is on top of a building in the downtown area.

Edit: Found part 8 for the Harrowing. Lynx's fold in Canada. Loc: -2790 622 3368

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After the tutorial where does one find Sapphire to talk to her?

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One does not yet from my understanding. She is only there.

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I didn't see this one one the wiki:

Exploration:
Johnston's Private Reserve, Canada: 2207 237 2871

Screenshot (http://img44.imageshack.us/i/screenshot2009090303374.jpg/), it's the small box to the right.

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One does not yet from my understanding. She is only there.

Lame! I totally talked to her in the tutorial on my main, but I didn't know you had to ASK HER ABOUT PERKS to actually get credited for talking to her, so I don't have the perk.

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Canada Spawn Camper and therefore Canada Explorer appear to be currently bugged and uncompleteable for at least some of those who didn't do Canada Crisis - the Steelhead spawnpoint doesn't register..
It is completable the problem is that is somewhere on the mountain area northwest of the central building or the building itself. I've accidentally ran across it when heading towards the viper base.


Perk: Three coins
Flavor: Life is sweet. Cavort in the fountain downtown.

I think I received it while jumping through the fountain where you find the briefcase on in the tutorial (wasn't really paying attention due to fights with the fire demons).

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It is completable the problem is that is somewhere on the mountain area northwest of the central building or the building itself. I've accidentally ran across it when heading towards the viper base.


Perk: Three coins
Flavor: Life is sweet. Cavort in the fountain downtown.

I think I received it while jumping through the fountain where you find the briefcase on in the tutorial (wasn't really paying attention due to fights with the fire demons).

You are right on the canada spawn :)

However, luckily for my perk hunter, I made an test hero and could not find the three coins perk in any of the 3 water areas near the briefcase. Including the fountain.

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You are right on the canada spawn :)

However, luckily for my perk hunter, I made an test hero and could not find the three coins perk in any of the 3 water areas near the briefcase. Including the fountain.
The three coins is in the "real" City... it's in the same fountain as the briefcase in the tutorial though.

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as far as the canada steelhead spawn point, does anyone actually have this

I was able to get the spawn point in Force Station Steelhead. Behind the Arms trainer are 2 pine trees. If you fly/jump around there it should eventually trigger.

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Found the Destroyer Research: Viper Research perk. It's in a briefcase in front of the Helicopter on the mesa with the giant Sat dishes that overlooks Area 51, Loc 1689 337 -2003.

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so any luck on the fastest gun in the west yet?

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Is there a specific way , or a simple way to be exact, to find a location.
There are many posts telling you that a certain object is at loc 454 -76 789 for example. How are we supposet to get to that point on the map, surely its not a case of running around and typing in /loc every few seconds untill we get closer to what we are looking for. it takes forever, is there a quicker way ?

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I was able to get the spawn point in Force Station Steelhead. Behind the Arms trainer are 2 pine trees. If you fly/jump around there it should eventually trigger.

i cant even find an arms trainer, let alone get the spawn point to triger.

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Perk called "Johnston's Private Reserve" can be found in Canada -

Burial Butte @ 2207 237 2864. It's a crate on the ground behind a rock.

Also another perk for killing Paul Johnston (lv30 villian) called " Vanquished Paul Johnston" - just south of above mentioned crate @ 2254 254 2668

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Is there a specific way , or a simple way to be exact, to find a location.
There are many posts telling you that a certain object is at loc 454 -76 789 for example. How are we supposet to get to that point on the map, surely its not a case of running around and typing in /loc every few seconds untill we get closer to what we are looking for. it takes forever, is there a quicker way ?

First number is longitude. Second number is height. Third number is latitude.

So really, you really only need to pay attention to the first and third number.

Head east to increase the first number and west to decrease. Head north to increase the last number and sound to decrease it.

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I don't know if this one has been posted yet (and I wanted to post it asap so didn't read thru all the pages)

Canada - "Ghost Camp" perk, (25 pts) small tent in Hoarfrost hills (loc - 2252 50 -2649)

Let's keep up the good work!


EDIT: Adding them as I find them, missable or not)

Monster Island - "I am the Egg-Man" ( "Ominously Large Egg" 25 pts loc -625 347 1816

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First number is longitude. Second number is height. Third number is latitude.

So really, you really only need to pay attention to the first and third number.

Head east to increase the first number and west to decrease. Head north to increase the last number and sound to decrease it.

Thx, its easy now i know , lol. :-))

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So go further on what dardove said, its x,z,y.

If you harken back to the days of XY grids, each map has one. But each (0,0) location is not in the center of the map, at least that is my assumption based on Millennium City. The (0,0) for that one starts way off to the left.

Once you know the (0,0) and you know which direction to move with the sign changes and numbers

(-,+) | (+,+)
------|------
(-,-) | (+,-)

than it's a lot easier to figure out where to go. The only thing that the Z is good for is tell you if something is higher or lower than ground level.

If you take a look at the Millennium City Map (http://www.champions-online-wiki.com/wiki/File:Millennium_City_Map.png), you can see the (0,0).

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Machine Revolution page on wiki is wrong, states Mechanon Radio Signal for Machine Revolution is in the Lemurian sub, if it is, I have not found it, I did however find alternate Mechanon lore there. So if it is in fact in the sub, someone please update it with an exact location.

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Machine Revolution page on wiki is wrong, states Mechanon Radio Signal for Machine Revolution is in the Lemurian sub, if it is, I have not found it, I did however find alternate Mechanon lore there. So if it is in fact in the sub, someone please update it with an exact location./quote]

If it's unchanged from beta, there are two mechannon perks on the sub. They're both in the back room, on different consoles on opposite sides of the sub. I haven't gotten back to Lemuria quite yet to test though.

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Anybody know what the "Be Prepared" perk is for?

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Ok also staring at where the vengeance journal in "the oasis" in the desert is supposed to be, where is this at exactly? i dont remember an oasis and i just flew all over the desert and did not find one.


I do notice however it lists Coordinates for many of the locations
how do you go about finding these coordinates? is there a setting or addon people are already using? i can not seem to find one

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type /loc get get your current location.

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Ok also staring at where the vengeance journal in "the oasis" in the desert is supposed to be, where is this at exactly? i dont remember an oasis and i just flew all over the desert and did not find one.


I do notice however it lists Coordinates for many of the locations
how do you go about finding these coordinates? is there a setting or addon people are already using? i can not seem to find one

It's on the bottom, to the right of Project Greenskin. There are no missions that would take you there, so it's more of a stumble upon it sort of thing.

Also about 3 or 4 posts up, there is an explanation of how the locations work in CO.

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Anybody know what the "Be Prepared" perk is for?


Nope, sounds like a new one.

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Machine Revolution page on wiki is wrong, states Mechanon Radio Signal for Machine Revolution is in the Lemurian sub, if it is, I have not found it, I did however find alternate Mechanon lore there. So if it is in fact in the sub, someone please update it with an exact location./quote]

If it's unchanged from beta, there are two mechannon perks on the sub. They're both in the back room, on different consoles on opposite sides of the sub. I haven't gotten back to Lemuria quite yet to test though.

just swpt over the back room again, the signal is not there anymore
i did find a few other lores sitting in that room, and there is the cursed communicator, but no signal, possibly moved? hopefuly not maybe it got lost in transition and will be there again shortly

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It could have been moved., The Lemuria Crisis sim might have replaced it, actually. Eh, it'll turn up someplace. ;)

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It's on Monster island. It's above a mission entrance. I can give you more details once the servers are back up.

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No, actually - killing the villian, getting her keycard, and opening the door does nothing. Your way is how it worked in beta.

Killing ALL the Vipers in the area while the prisoners are walking to the door will accomplish the mission.

Which means you can only accomplish it in a 30-second window every 15 minutes or so. Kinda like the "go save whatshisname, you've got 10 minutes, hope there's no line" mission also in Canada.

:confused:

So they changed it back? The guard thingy was how it went during CB, they then changed that to kill the villain, get keycard and open door to let them out in OB.

Looks like someone got bored or something. :p

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Having played CoH for 4 years I am quite familiar with Badge-Hunter.com. Curious as to what you would want a tracker website to do for you (beside the obvious tracking perks.


You kind of answered it yourself really when you said

"However as of right now, there is no way to see what actual Perks someone else might have aside from titles"

I do agree the ingame tracker in CO is great but everyone playes MMO games for different reasons, for example, I met a few players in CoH that just didnt get the badge collecting thing, and others who just played PvP, Me i'm a badge junkie, but without any kind of real endgame, (and lets face it if people are paying subs they aint gonna build one in), there rarely is in MMO'S, I needed motivation to carry on playing CoH once i had maxed 5 characters. what kept me playing CoH for so long was trying to climb up the leaderboard for badge collecting, it gave a competitiveness to my game besides the normal game play.
Your wiki is becoming my Bible by the way :)

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i cant even find an arms trainer, let alone get the spawn point to triger.

http://forums.champions-online.com/showthread.php?t=52026

There...

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Desert Bounty hunter (Heroic Perk - 25pts) -- Kill the 5 Villans listed. Buzzard is at the bottom of the dirt slope at the east of the Prison. Rot patrols around the Northwest of the Qualrr Crash site. Windfist Patrols around the West /Southwest of the Qualrr Crash site. Darkmoon Patrols along the road South of the Warden Wildman Contact. Neanderthal Patrols around just north Of Area 51 north fence.


Quality Control (Heroic Perk - 25 pts) -- In Canada, at the Argent snow thrush Sanctuary ( Argent Thrush Mine entrence marker on the map). Every so often a patrol of Mechenforcers Spawn at the site and patrol out of it. Defeat them all. (fluf text says - "You have defeated an entire shipment of Mechenforcers!"

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Pacify the Spirits (Heroic Perk - 25 pts) in Canada,

Found the Wolf Khanukh, (lvl 31 tough Villan) Patroling at Strossens Peak (2516 .145 . 1938)

The bear Kaiti was a little odd Found a lvl 28 tough bear called Marauder in Kigatiliks Maw (The hill north of teh lake there, Location 2365 . 406 . -756). When I kille dhim, it counted. Either Perk has the wrong name, or the Mob does.

Geri and Ferki were south of great ´bear lake ( -1179 . 310 . -2260) 2 lvl 25 tough Wolves patroling together. However they did not count when I killed them. So I guess Bugged?

Couldnt find Bjorn...and if its Bugged anyway it kind of made me want to stop looking further, Will try again post 40 (4 bars to go...come on!)

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I've been taking notes since I got into closed beta. Here's a link to a spreadsheet I've been working on. It's by no means complete, but it's a start.

Link (http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Al3bA9PNCnFWdHctM09pUFNYSXEycTZZeGhLUVRZd 1E&hl=en)

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apparently fastest gun in the west is in game and working, according to the reply of a tixcket i sent

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just a side though

someone should get the locations of all the instances where perks are inside instead of just naming them, some of us dont remember where they are and it would be helpful to be able to go back to those spots without intensive searching and remembering

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3 Dr Destroyer lore unlocks on the plaques of the statues at the museum.

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ARGENT Snow Thrush Knowledge Perk is a book found by a overturned bus on the side of the road under a tree just down the road from the Argent refinery turn off... if i was in game i'd give better info. but it's there found it tonight.

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ARGENT Snow Thrush Knowledge Perk is a book found by a overturned bus on the side of the road under a tree just down the road from the Argent refinery turn off... if i was in game i'd give better info. but it's there found it tonight.

It is at location: -2753 109 -1714

Edit: For Raptor Roundup, it is a heroic perk and it is worth 25 not 50 points.

Edit 2: Respect for the Dead.

First Skull: Loc 1877 126 3030

Second Skull: Loc 1999 127 3114

Found a third rock pile at 2195 243 2526, but a skull doesn't seem to appear there. Might be bugged.

For machine revolt, the final piece is at:
Strange Sig Location: Monster Island: Well's Pass: 620 246 -3898

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well, is hikers horror working yet? ;) still cant make it work so i guess not enabled....

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Found another one.

Aegir Rescue Diver, heroic 25 points.
Right above the Aegir is a big group of tough lemurian rebels and a group of divers. Swim up and the two groups should start fighting. Got to save 5 of the divers.

It also unlocked another one I have in progress now
Aegir Master Diver, heroic 100 points.
Get the other perk and all exploration perks for Lemuria.

Edit: Noticed I had another one in progress. Aegir Wreck Diver. It's a collection perk.

Have to find 3 shipwrecks in the undying reef.

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anyone know what 'then what are they?' from the viper rude awakenings perk is? i cant seem to find that mission =(

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More stuff

Banzai Pipeline: Exploration, 25 points, Take pipeline from shore to Moreau's lab on Monster island

Aegir Cave Diver: Exploration, 25 points, explore the caves in Undying Reef (10 of them)

Ones I have found so far:
#1: Loc 668 2052 370
#2: Loc 1495 2042 428
#3: loc 1477 2042 428
#4: 1451 2207 588

Note that these are the locations for the entrances. You have to go in and get to the end to get the explorer to mark off.

Aegir Wreck Diver: Collection, 25 points, discover all the shipwrecks of the undying reef (3 of them)

#1, don't remember where I found it
#2: Loc 2000 2031 586
#3: Loc 468 1975 935

For the knowledge perk, The crowns of Krim:
Oh, I remember Kirm; Arvad's Palace, Loc: 310 -0 239. Right side of second room, under knocked over statue

Island Hopper in the wiki should actually be Island Hopping

Various other perks that I don't see listed on the wiki

Exploration:
Lemuria: Cartographer, 100 points
Lemuria Explorer, 50 points (Undying Reed, Caliginous, and Rastrinfhar)
Lemuria: Spawn Camper, 50 points
Monster Island Spawn Camper, 50 points

Heroic:
Acoustic, 10 points (deal 10,000,000 sonic damage)
Beachcomber, 25 points, 65 monster island quests
Goes to 11, 10 points, (deal 50,000,000 sonic damage)
Half Full, 25 points, 35 Lemuria missions
Open Mission: Destroids Rise Again, 50 points
Open Mission: Hang 'Em High, 50 points
Shattered, 10 points (receive 10 million particle damage)

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Nemesis minion kill perks!

He's A User - Defeat 10 Robot Nemesis Minions
Master Control Program - Defeat 25 Robot Nemesis Minions
End of Line - Defeat 1000 Robot Nemesis Minions
Hoodlum - Defeat 10 Thug Nemesis Minions

The first two I've completed, the second two are in progress. The first two give titles of the same name. :)

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Found the final three parts to the Telios Experiments knowledge perk. All 3 in Teleios's Secret Lab which is part of the quest E.T. Clone Home on Monster Island.

The last two seemed to be bugged though. I read them, and it shows up under lore, but it doesn't flag for the perk.

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Aegir Cave Diver: Exploration, 25 points, explore the caves in Undying Reef (10 of them)


This one is a serious pain, I got it in beta, but it's hard to keep track of which you've entered and which you haven't and there are a lot of them. They're all on that central "mountain ridge" between the atlantis city and the valley with Arvad's palace. Some go in from the top.

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I just had one show up in heroics called Transmit and Receive, it does not have a hint when hovering over it, anyone know about it?

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yeah transmit recieve is for killing the viper agents around the two big sattelite dishes near project awakening.

still been unable to find that bit from the rude awakenings questline.... feel free to tell me ;)

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"Don't Go Chasing Waterfalls" in Canada
text: "Even superferoes need a break sometimes... slide down the frozen waterfall in Lynx's Fold"

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Heroic 25pts - "Billy Goat Bluff"

Text: "Defeat the troll under the bridge in MacDonald Park"

The troll is a grond that spawns in the water under the bridge in the park. He seems pretty rare and the pathing PSI enemies will kill him if he's up. The park is the one between the Argent HQ and the PSI Building.

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yeah transmit recieve is for killing the viper agents around the two big sattelite dishes near project awakening.

still been unable to find that bit from the rude awakenings questline.... feel free to tell me ;)

If I could remember what quest it was, I would tell you.

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The "Fenced Yard" for Raptor Roundup in Canada is at 965 50 903.

Currently at 3245 Perk points and nothing to spend them on :(

Edit:
Teleios Destroyer Research: 970 50 956

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If I could remember what quest it was, I would tell you.

yeah it kinda seems to me i've done everything but i'm obviously missing something... bleh

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still been unable to find that bit from the rude awakenings questline.... feel free to tell me ;)
The only hidden one of those I can think of would be the one you get from a drop at the western Dispatch site.

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The only hidden one of those I can think of would be the one you get from a drop at the western Dispatch site.

hmmm, may have to try there then lad...

also, no pvanqish perk for killing mechassasin in questionite authority? why is the poor wimp not work one? :D

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ok inside the mission shadow script in canada there's quilophic lore 1 available, pile of glowy books on a rock near a grimoire fragmebnt

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Heroic 25pts - "Billy Goat Bluff"

Text: "Defeat the troll under the bridge in MacDonald Park"

The troll is a grond that spawns in the water under the bridge in the park. He seems pretty rare and the pathing PSI enemies will kill him if he's up. The park is the one between the Argent HQ and the PSI Building.

There are two bridges in the park. Happen to know which one it spawns at?

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also and i dont know if people know this, in krim crown coda just behind the brazier by eclipse there is eclipses orders available as a glowy

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You get a new category called 'Monster Island' in your perk list and one called 'Jurassic Perk' when you kill Teleiosaurus in Monster Island...though it says 'Solo Teleiosaurus' which no one could do unless he was totally bugged....I don't even think I can keep track of how many times I died during that fight.

You don't get a Vanquished Teleiosaurus one though :(

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bah, now i'm also missing 'its not a minor problem to him' from the searching in shadows perk in canada.... :(:(

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bah, now i'm also missing 'its not a minor problem to him' from the searching in shadows perk in canada.... :(:(

It's an escort quest. Look for Hal Barrett.

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It's an escort quest. Look for Hal Barrett.

sweet. any idea where roughly?

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sweet. any idea where roughly?
Look for the ghost tent at the edge between Kigatilik's Maw and Hoarfrost Hills. It should give you the mission to find him.

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Look for the ghost tent at the edge between Kigatilik's Maw and Hoarfrost Hills. It should give you the mission to find him.

cheers you two are stars. now if only i could find the other one i'm missing i'd be goldejn... still, better than nowt ;)

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There are two bridges in the park. Happen to know which one it spawns at?

The bridge on the south side of the park.

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I dunno if you're interested in the PvP ones, but there are some listed here in this thread that I didn't see on my last perusal.

http://forums.champions-online.com/showthread.php?t=56149

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I would say yes as I will try to get those as well.

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I have created a page on the wiki for tracking perks that are truly missable (as in you cannot get them after a certain point). Please add to it if you know of any others!

http://www.champions-online-wiki.com/wiki/Category:Missable_Perks

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Collection Perk:

"Offensive Line"

Text: "The biggest members of the Stronghold Prison Football Team are hanging out in the exercise yard. Take them down to score points with the warden. Defeat Bestial Prisoners and SPARC armors in the exercise yard."


The prison's exercise yard looks like a football field hence the Perk's name.

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I can't believe the Harrowing Book 3 isn't in the wiki yet. If nobody's mentioned it it's found in MC, outside the bookstore where you fight the Black Shepard where it's all firey and demony. It's sitting at the base of a tree right outside the store.

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Various Finds from the day.

Aegir Cave Diver
cave 5: loc 947 2435 179
cave 6: 1174 2011 1329
cave 7: 773 2230 505
cave 8: 1357 2239 245
cave 9: 1673 2094 1602
cave 10: 1653 2051 1265

Qlipothic Lore part 6: Monster Island: Argent Preserve: loc -535 303 -652

All about Viper: Viper Agent Training: Monster Island Slither Beach: 97 78 723

Monster island slither beach history: -789 281 1528

I am the Egg-Man: Collection Perk: 25 points: Monster island: slither beacher: -626 351 1785

Found 3(?) pieces of Lore inside the Viper's Nest on Monster Island and one outside. Don't remember which ones exactly. I know I completed Mad Correspondence though.

For Monster Island there is no explorer perk, but the cartographer does exist. Instead of saying find all neighborhoods it says to clear the map.

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Here's another one that isn't on the wiki but can't see here:

Teleios Experiments - Warbeast; Canada 2082, 49, 196. On hood of a truck just behind Cadet Lawrence at foot of Teleios Tower.

Oh, and in reference to finding things, I find it much easier to bind a key for /loc so I can spam it while moving about. Just use "/bind keyname loc"

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this is a real longshot but if someone could help i'd be grateful. dont suppose someone could post a list of all their viper missions they've completed in canada so i can compare with mine to see which one i'm missing? don't want to move on without that perk =(

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So you don't like Birthers but you're ok with Truthers? :happy:

Sorry Ogul, each one of us is accountable for what we do. Jones is far from a menial government employee, and having a guy like him in the national spotlight is bad for business.

You should have an incomplete list in your perk log, with whichever ones you're missing just checked off. Just read off the name of them.

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(Edit: Found it)

Just as a summation:

If we get the Following:

Millennium City Tutorial -

Red Bug Down (Exploration perk)

Burning Sands Crisis Area -

Out of the Wasteland (Knowledge Perk)

Vanquished Ferd (Defeat Perk)

Vanquished Gigaton (Defeat Perk)

Canada Crisis Area -

Raiders On The Storm (Knowledge Perk)

Vanquished Rakshasa (Defeat Perk)

Then once we get to the normal map area we should have all the weird perks that you might miss from the areas you can no longer get to, correct?

Add to this we are the champions - the only way to get credit for talking to witchcraft is at the celebration if you choose ravenspeak make sure you talk to witchcrat too - talking to her in normal desert does nothing

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As far as the money perks go (well to do, livin' large, whatever is after that) it bugs out as soon as you buy anything. If you just sell a bunch of crap on a new character immediately you'll get well to do (if you sell 10 silver worth of stuff anyway) and the counter on living large will show your money level (eg 1,000 / 50,000). As soon as you BUY anything, this gets set to -1/50,000 .

Submitted a bug report but again this is something that has been bugged since closed beta so don't count to a fix anytime soon. Unless you plan on not crafting at all or waiting until you completely finish this perk chain to get it, it is basically impossible to get livin' large at the moment.

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As far as the money perks go (well to do, livin' large, whatever is after that) it bugs out as soon as you buy anything. If you just sell a bunch of crap on a new character immediately you'll get well to do (if you sell 10 silver worth of stuff anyway) and the counter on living large will show your money level (eg 1,000 / 50,000). As soon as you BUY anything, this gets set to -1/50,000 .

Submitted a bug report but again this is something that has been bugged since closed beta so don't count to a fix anytime soon. Unless you plan on not crafting at all or waiting until you completely finish this perk chain to get it, it is basically impossible to get livin' large at the moment.

indeed i'd imagine most people have this issue

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Anyone have an idea where the third respawn point is in Downtown? I've got the one by the Magic Lantern and the one on the north side of Harmon, but can't find the third.

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I found the perk BASE jumping in Ren center as an incomplete one. I have no clue which building and where to jump.

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One of the Devs made a comment that sound like it had nothing to do with jumping off the tallest building. So that is out at least on that one.

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One of the Devs made a comment that sound like it had nothing to do with jumping off the tallest building. So that is out at least on that one.

if it is jumping off a building, id think more along the lines of the only one with a teleporter to the top
though that didnt work so thats obviously not it

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now that i've finally sorted my rude awakenings only missing fastest gun and hikers horror. assuming still no update on those?

also, on base jumping i had a go myself and i'm wondering if it has something to do with not hitting buildings on the way down, as everyn time i triued i hit several

also i am assuming there are no more perks to be found in the level 20-29 pvp arenas?

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How do you get "cleaning up the town" in the main snake gulch arc?

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cleaning up the town and fastest gun are 2 unknowns for the snake gulch ones, if someone knows would be nice to hear about those 2

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IAlso have a heroic perk called Communication Breakdown. Have to disable 3 comms array. I just need the primary. Don't remember where exactly the other two are. I believe one was by Project Awakening.

All three are in Project Awakening, one is just inside the little side base at the side of the main compound.

I can only find two, the primary and secondary. Where is the backup?

Edit: nevermind, found it. It's outside the base proper.

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Machine Revolution page on wiki is wrong, states Mechanon Radio Signal for Machine Revolution is in the Lemurian sub, if it is, I have not found it, I did however find alternate Mechanon lore there. So if it is in fact in the sub, someone please update it with an exact location.

Mechanon Radio Signal has been moved to Monster Island and is among the rocks just above the entrance to Monroe's Lab.

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Alright, another thread has been started for perks for killing your nemesis' minions. Since you can only have so many nemeses, some of these are missable.

http://forums.champions-online.com/showthread.php?t=57297

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Alright, another thread has been started for perks for killing your nemesis' minions. Since you can only have so many nemeses, some of these are missable.

http://forums.champions-online.com/showthread.php?t=57297

none of them are missable sinse you can kill other peoples minions for credit

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*sigh* just realized today I missed a quest in the desert crisis for a perk on my highest toon.

Grond Theft Altercation

/crushed

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@Calendros made a custom channel for talking about perks called "Perk Hunters"

If you don't know how to join custom channels. right kill on one of your chat tabs. When the chat option menu shows up, click on the channels tab, and type in Perk Hunters. The button should say join. Click it and you should be good to go.

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Knowledge: Viper Supersoldier Program: Teleios Brain Deal
Found in Millenium City, in the Reptile's Retreat area, underneath the ramp leading into the underground base. Go to one of the two giant lever mechanisms and check the briefcase.

Loc 9856 139 603

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Collection Perk:

"Offensive Line"

Text: "The biggest members of the Stronghold Prison Football Team are hanging out in the exercise yard. Take them down to score points with the warden. Defeat Bestial Prisoners and SPARC armors in the exercise yard."


The prison's exercise yard looks like a football field hence the Perk's name.
Confirmed.

Edit:
Teleios' Experiments: Qularr Dissection notes - In Teleios' Secret Lab on Monster Island (Big metal door where the Qularr fight some Teleiosaurs).

Same map also has the Qularr Biotechnology notes & Teleiosaurus vs Qwijibo, but it neither register as part of Teleios' Experiments for some reason.

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Confirmed.

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Teleios' Experiments: Qularr Dissection notes - In Teleios' Secret Lab on Monster Island (Big metal door where the Qularr fight some Teleiosaurs).

Same map also has the Qularr Biotechnology notes & Teleiosaurus vs Qwijibo, but it neither register as part of Teleios' Experiments for some reason.

Yeah, I submitted a bug report about that.

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Does anyone know how to get the volatile perk in the High tech UTC zone? I know their is a large box at the top of the ramps in the center that is extremely volatile, and when you attack it, it blows up and does about 2600 damage to anyone around it. I have destroyed it many times, and I have even killed an enemy from it blowing up and still didn't recieve the perk.

Has anyone recieved this yet? Maybe it is bugged.

I just don't want to miss this perk by leveling out of the bracket, like I did with Cieling Cat.

If any devs are reading this, any word on allowing us to do the other UTC zones even though we level out of them? Would be nice to have a variety at higher levels.

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If anyone could find Phoenix's Order for Crowns of Krim, I would really like to know where it is. I searched his lair up and down, but couldn't find it.

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none of them are missable sinse you can kill other peoples minions for credit

Ah? Well that's good to know :)

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if it is jumping off a building, id think more along the lines of the only one with a teleporter to the top
though that didnt work so thats obviously not it

Well, someone claimed to have gotten it, but isn't quite sure how.
From what he described though, it might involve jumping off all the buildings in Ren Center.
Although that seems kinda counter to what the Dev said.

Another option that occurred to me is that it might involve jumping from building to building, starting at the highest and ending up at the lowest.

*shrugs*

Just ideas though, no guarantees that it'll work.