Performance Problems? Try This!

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Hey everyone,

If you're still experiencing performance issues (that is, slow framerates, NOT rubberbanding), try turning off your UI and see if that improves your performance.

To turn off your UI: Alt+F12
To check your FPS before and after: /showfps 1 (/showfps 0 to turn this off)

Post in this thread with your system specs, specifically:

CPU
Video Card
RAM
Is there a noticeable difference when you turn the UI off?


Thanks!
Daeke

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And what is the command to turn off the UI? :)

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CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 945 Deneb 3.0GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor
GPU: MSI R4890-T2D1G OC Radeon HD 4890 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16
RAM: G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400)

At minimum settings, there was a significant improvement with the UI turned off, maybe 5-10 fps more, possibly 15 fps more in some cases. At higher settings it was less pronounced, and the framerate was still dreadful with or without the UI.

For comparison, with the UI turned on and running at absolute minimum settings, I average about 15 fps, with pauses and single digits while using travel powers.

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And what is the command to turn off the UI? :)


SHIFT F12, I believe. (Might be CTRL F12.)

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Hey everyone,

If you're still experiencing performance issues (that is, slow framerates, NOT rubberbanding), try turning off your UI and see if that improves your performance.

Post in this thread with your system specs, specifically:

CPU
Video Card
RAM
Is there a noticeable difference when you turn the UI off?


Thanks!
Daeke

AMD Athlon 64 x2 6000+
Gforce GTX 275
2GB ram

Yes very noticeable change in fps with UI off have been turning off my ui to teleport around otherwise my game would look like a slideshow.

area's like MC or canada going from 20-25 fps to 40-50 fps when i turn my UI off.

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AMD 9950 quad core 2.6
ATI 4850
4 gig ram
vista 64

switching off the UI gives me between an extra 10-35 fps depending on were i am.It is very noticeable with the UI off how much smoother the game is.

I sent a ticket about this very issue a week or two ago.

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AMD Athlon (tm) 7750 Dual-core
NVIDIA GEForce 8800 GT
3GB
Yes I go from 19--40 fps to 29-50 with the UI off.

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I am getting around 30-34 fps standing completely still in MC. The second a car or something comes on screen, it goes down to around 26-27 fps. Once I started to swing around the city, my fps ranged from 12 to about 27. Using superspeed, running at full speed, I range from 0-10 fps, never getting higher than 10. (which is pretty much unplayable) and I don't even have my settings maxxed. I have the comic shading turned off, and have set my shadows to low.

I do not really notice any big difference with the UI on or off. When I am moving my fps is bouncing around way too much to get a very accurate measurement.

I am running an intel Q6850 processor. 3.0ghz core2 extreme
dual Nvidia 8800 GT's in SLI 512 meg ram each
and 4 gig of RAM

Update: My fps gets drastically better the higher I get off the ground. Standing still on top of one of the buildings in the ren center I am getting between 40-45 fps, and I can get between 35-50 fps while swinging. (can't really test superspeed up there) If I stare at the sky while swinging I can get up to just over 60 fps.

Update 2.0: I am running Windows 7 RC, someone in game said that they fixed their problems by switching back to Vista. Has anyone else reported problems with win7 specifically?

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Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 3.0 GHz
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 280
8 GB RAM
Windows Vista 64-bit

I've got the settings at "recommended", though I may have tweaked a few things (shadows are set to low, for instance). Standing in Millennium city, with nothing going on around me but passing cars and pedestrians (no special effects or other heroes running around), I'm getting about 41 FPS with the UI active. Certainly playable, but I would have expected more with my rig. I AM running at 1920x1200, though, so maybe that's where I'm getting greedy.

With the UI off, standing in exactly the same spot, it jumps to 50 FPS. A pretty significant increase.

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I am not seeing a significant performance boost from switching off the UI. Maybe a frame or two higher on average, but it's tough to tell.

My system:
Windows XP 32-bit
Intel Core 2 Duo E6750
GeForce 8800 GT (512 mb)
4 gigs of ram (effectively 2.75 due to 32-bit OS)
No FPS increase from turning off UI

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Windows Vista 32-bit
AMD Athlon 64 x 2 Dual Core Processor 4800
2.0 GB of Ram ( I plan on double or trippling that VERY soon, I still run most games on High or Max with little problems)
Nvidia 9800 GTX


I get a large increase in FPS by cutting off the UI. Oddly enough, I can run most games on High or Max, including Crysis... which needless to say is more graphically intensive than CO.

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intel e8400 3.0ghz dual core.
2gb ddr2 ram.
radeon 4800 hd 1gb ddr5 1ghz.

Framerate is 2-15 jumping around with interface on, 20 standing still. 15-20 jumping around with interface off, 30-50 standing still. FIX IT LOL

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Thanks for the reports! Keep them coming!

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intel core2 duo 1.8GHz
nvidia 9800GT
2 gig ram

Consistent increase in fps with the UI off. In one test, in a quiet spot, it went from 40fps to 55fps. In active spots, the minimum framerate increased from ~15 to ~25fps.

That said, two days ago my framerate never went above 20fps, even staring into corner. So there's been a noticeable improvement.

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Core 2 Duo E6750
4g Ram
Nvidia GTX 275

While turning off the interface helps a lot, there is still a significant amount of performance loss when flying over Millenium city as the buildings load.

I feel like the interface is drawing performance from the GPU, but the CPU issues (which mean that turning down the graphics option do nothing still) are still there.

Nice going though, here's to hoping for a complete fix sometime soon!

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Core 2 Quad Q6600
8800GT 512MB
2GB RAM DDR2

All stock CPU is 2.4 ghz

when I turn off the UI my framerate increases by 20+ fps, even during flight the framerate never drops past 30 fps which is better than my previous 5-30 fps.

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All tests done with that settings
amd athlon 64 x2 dual core 4400+, 6gb ram, geforce 8800gts 512, vista 64bit. Never overclocked.
Playing at 1680x1050, 16:10, 60hz
In Millenium city, toon standing still at coords 5623 200 -1706 watching the powerhouse big wheel entrance.
After login, moving rapidly the camera around and up and down to caching graphics. After that, without moving camera.

physx enabled
reccomended settings
with UI - framerate from 10 to 18 with 55-60m/fm
without UI - framerate from 7 to 20 with 55-72m/fm
low settings
with UI - framerate from 7 to 40 with 26-33m/fm
withou UI - framerate from 43 to 60 with 16-20m/fm

Closed program, disabled physx, reopened program. Same sequence after login in Millenium city, toon standing still at coords 5623 200 -1706 watching the powerhouse big wheel entrance.
After login, moving rapidly the camera around and up and down to caching graphics. After that, without moving camera.

physx dsabled
reccomended settings
with UI - framerate from 19 to 23 with 44-50m/fm
without UI - framerate from 19 to 24 with 42-50m/fm
low settings
with UI - framerate from 37 to 44 with 22-26m/fm
without UI - framerate from 57 to 61 with 16-18m/fm

Considerations
Please note: with PhysX enabled every time a NPC approach me to say something I noticed heavy drop in framerate for 1-2 seconds (note the low 7fps even in low settings). With PhysX disabled, never noticed drop in framerate when npc approach and the fps range was pretty close.

Hope this helps! :D

PS: now I keep disabled that f***ing physx! :P

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10 fps improvement with UI off

intel (D) duel core 3.2ghz
ATI 4850 512mb ram
4gig memory
windows 7RC

Running in recommended with Comic outlining off I can get around 25-35fps outside town in mob free area with UI off it ups it to 35-45fps. However in a town or area with alot of mobs or other activity fps can jump all over but usually stays around 15-25 with UI off add 10FPS

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Hey all, I'm in particularly interested in UI performance. If you are in game (not sure if the shard is up right now), please try the following.
Slide the video option slider down to the fastest settings (which will be ugly-- that's OK, this is for diagnosis of the problem).
/showfps
Have your character look at the ground
wait ten seconds
write down the fps and ms/frame (all numbers shown in the upper right)
Hit Alt+F12
wait ten seconds
write down the fps and ms/frame (all numbers shown in the upper right)
Post with your graphics and computer stats like you have been.

This will be HUGELY helpful. I thank all of you for giving us a hand with this.

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Hey all, I'm in particularly interested in UI performance. If you are in game (not sure if the shard is up right now), please try the following.
Slide the video option slider down to the fastest settings (which will be ugly-- that's OK, this is for diagnosis of the problem).
/showfps
Have your character look at the ground
wait ten seconds
write down the fps and ms/frame (all numbers shown in the upper right)
Hit Alt+F12
wait ten seconds
write down the fps and ms/frame (all numbers shown in the upper right)
Post with your graphics and computer stats like you have been.

This will be HUGELY helpful. I thank all of you for giving us a hand with this.

just got booted out or i would of tried this for you.

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CPU: Intel E8400 3.0 Ghz Dual Core
GPU: nVidia GeForce 8800 GT
RAM: 4.0 Gigs of DDR2

Significant performance increase with the UI turned off, though still only getting 40 or so FPS with the settings turned down/off.

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Bah, I read this about 2 min too late, sorry :)

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And what is the command to turn off the UI? :)

look up he posted that on the first or second line of the text .. How did you miss that speed reading ftl.

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sorry shard down :(

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Ah, just too late. But if you want to have them turn it back on I will check it for you, I promise. :D

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CPU: Intel Core2 Duo CPU T9300 @ 2.50GHz
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT
RAM: 4.0GB

Slight performance increase with the UI switched off, maybe 10-20 fps, but still quite low.

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look up he posted that on the first or second line of the text .. How did you miss that speed reading ftl.

You should read when the post was edited by the dev and when the dude ask for the alt+f12 command...:rolleyes:

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e6750 core2duo
9800gtx oc 512mb
4gb ram
vista x64

i see 15-20fps boost with ui off, its like a different game.

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servers are down now till the headstart tomorrow or I would try it.

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CPU: AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5600+ 2.81 Ghz
VCARD: ATI Radeon HD 4600 Series 1024 MB DDR3 RAM
RAM: 3GB

My frame-rate basically doubles with the UI turned off (25 avg -> 50 avg give or take a few fps).
And i have tried the game with the UI turned off while fighting and traveling. Not just standing still.

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Intel 6300 C2Duo
Nvidia 8800gts 640mb
4gigs cosair
Win Vista 32bit

Toggle the UI on and off increases an average of 5 to 15 fps and more in spots...

Running the game on default settings, minus outlines, plus 4x AA and 4x AF...

Normal gameplay I can only get about 15 to 30 fps usually hanging around 20...

Are you guys on to somthing????? I sure hope so....

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E6750 OC to 3.2 GHZ
5 gigs of RAM
Nvidia 260gtx 216 the newer model
Windows 7 64bit

Settings recommended, except resoultion which is set to desktop, shadows off, and AA and AF off, as well as stabilize frame rate off.

UI on in heavily congested areas 12 to 29 fps, 12 if I'm moving
UI off in heavily congested areas 25 to 43 fps, 31 if I'm moving

UI on in low congested areas 41-50 fps, 39 if I'm moving
UI off in low congested areas 50-70 fps, 49 if I'm moving.

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Hey everyone,

If you're still experiencing performance issues (that is, slow framerates, NOT rubberbanding), try turning off your UI and see if that improves your performance.

To turn off your UI: Alt+F12
To check your FPS before and after: /showfps 1 (/showfps 0 to turn this off)

Post in this thread with your system specs, specifically:

CPU
Video Card
RAM
Is there a noticeable difference when you turn the UI off?


Thanks!
Daeke

CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 @ 3.00 GHz
VID: 2x GF8800 GT 512 MB (SLI)
RAM: 2 GB
Yes a 5-10 fps change. (Also suffer fro the CPU Overloading issue and GPU not being used.)

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CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q8200 (2.4Ghz)
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GT120 (1GB)
RAM: 8GB

Framerate at LOW settings looking at the ground: 20-35fps (UI ON)
Framerate at LOW settings looking out across Steelhead: 20-25 fps (UI ON)
Framerate at RECOMMENDED settings looking at the ground OR across steelhead: 40+ (UI ON or OFF)

Definitely a huge performance boost when turning the UI off. I notice even during crowded scenes, where my framerate would stutter with the UI on, it doesn't even flicker with the UI off.

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OB was taken down but I did get to test it.

On MAX without shadows or AA in MC.

UI on, 30-40fps
UI off, 30-40fps

With yesterday's client it made 0fps change for me. But that isn't really the test you asked for ;)

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Core duo E6600
2GB PC4800
ATI HD4870

Disabling the UI in busy or choppy areas (eg: travel powers, moving to new areas) gives me as much as 20FPS boost. I also notice my card barely gets used, but the CPU cores will both get maxed.

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Core duo E6600
2GB PC4800
ATI HD4870

Disabling the UI in busy or choppy areas (eg: travel powers, moving to new areas) gives me as much as 20FPS boost. I also notice my card barely gets used, but the CPU cores will both get maxed.

QFT.

I just ordered a new graphics card, but now I'm worried it won't make a difference, because I just checked yesterday, and the cpu is between 99-100% while the game client is open. Is this normal, or should it be divying out more info to the GPU than this?

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Hey all, I'm in particularly interested in UI performance. If you are in game (not sure if the shard is up right now), please try the following.
Slide the video option slider down to the fastest settings (which will be ugly-- that's OK, this is for diagnosis of the problem).
/showfps
Have your character look at the ground
wait ten seconds
write down the fps and ms/frame (all numbers shown in the upper right)
Hit Alt+F12
wait ten seconds
write down the fps and ms/frame (all numbers shown in the upper right)
Post with your graphics and computer stats like you have been.

This will be HUGELY helpful. I thank all of you for giving us a hand with this.

this something you are still working on and would like us to test?

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Turning off the UI boosted my framerate by at least 10, in some cases 15-20. I found myself minimizing the chat, due to a nice 5-7fps increase that really smoothed the game out. Smooth wins out over communication everytime.

Specs:
CPU: Q6600 @ 2.8ghz
GPU: 8800 GTS 512
RAM: 4GB PC8500

Side-note: I've experienced this before with EverQuest 2. They still haven't fixed it, though. Is it that hard to create a fully fleshed out UI without (in some situations) overwhelming framerate drops? I mean, if I'm hitting 45fps without the UI, that means that I might go as low as 25 with it on. Not exactly optimal.

It was a serious question, by the way, I have no idea how interface programming works.

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4-8fps The thing i find odd is this is on the lowest setting. In the Open beta It was smooth on the recommended setting with minor tweeks

CPU:AMD Athlon II X2 2.9GHz True Dual Core Design
GPU: ATI Radeon HD 3200 Graphics
RAM: G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500)

Turning off the UI Doesn't make any bit of difference.

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•CPU - Pentium D 2.8 Ghz
•Video Card - 8800 GTXOC 768 Meg
•RAM - 2 Gig
•Is there a noticeable difference when you turn the UI off?

With UI on have fps of 25-30
with UI off hanve fps of 35-43

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System:

CPU: AMD Athlon X2 6400+ 3.2 GHz
Video Card: HIS ATI Radeon HD 4890
RAM: 4 GB DDR2 800
Is there a noticeable difference when you turn the UI off?: Yes. Details below


UI On: average 39 fps
UI Off: average 55 fps

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QuadCore Q6600
4GB RAM
Dual GeForce 8800GT

Turning off UI gets me an extra 10fps but it's still barely at 25. Very very sluggish.

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Turning off UI helps but I cannot see the target mob, my life and the map. These 3 are the most important part of the UI. Is it possible to customize what we want to see?

And why is UI affecting performance??

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With UI ON: 25-30 FPS

With UI OFF: 60 FPS Stable (Vsync)

What-the-hell

Atleast your aware of it - Just hope theres some sort of fix soon I guess

Specs:
AMD Phenom II 920
4GB Ram
GTX 285
Vista X64

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Hey everyone,

If you're still experiencing performance issues (that is, slow framerates, NOT rubberbanding), try turning off your UI and see if that improves your performance.

To turn off your UI: Alt+F12
To check your FPS before and after: /showfps 1 (/showfps 0 to turn this off)

Post in this thread with your system specs, specifically:

CPU
Video Card
RAM
Is there a noticeable difference when you turn the UI off?


Thanks!
Daeke

What does rubberbanding mean? I have smooth graphics but every minute or so it slows down or hitches for like10 seconds or more.

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What does rubberbanding mean? I have smooth graphics but every minute or so it slows down or hitches for like10 seconds or more.

Basically, rubberbanding is when you run forward for a bit and then all of a sudden reappear back where you started.

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does it use all cores? that was my main issue in AOC if you have a g15 or any other means to see core usage does it use 100% on 1 and the others like 20/30% ?

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CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo e8400 3.0 GHZ
Video Card: eVGA Geforce 8800 GT 512 MB
RAM: 4 GB DDR2 800

Minimum settings, UI on: max 90, average 85 or so, 10.4m/fm or so
Minimum settings, UI off: max 164, average 154 or so, 6.3-5/fm or so.

Holy /crap/. Thats near double preformance from turning off hte UI. Here's hoping this helps it be tracked down. Thank you for having us test, so we at least know where some of the problem is originating from.

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Yes, my framerate goes up a LOT with UI turned off.

From about 40fps to about 65+ fps

I am on a intel quad core 2.6ghz windows xp, NVIDIA 250 video card.

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Mine was chugging badly, so I reset to defaults, changed back the resolution and turned Post processing (think that's what it's called) off, and it runs great. Weird.

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CPU - AMD Athlon64 X2 6000+ 3GHz

GPU - Geforce GTX 260 896MB DDR3

RAM - 4GB DDR2

UI ON - 25-35fps

UI OFF - 65+fps

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I always find that when I first log in the game is really stuttery. I adjust the video settings to min and apply. Then boost them back up to max and it runs fine. Really weird and a bit of a burden but worth it to see the game in all its glory!

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Petium D 2.8GHZ
2 Gig Memory
8800 GTX OC 768 Meg


Graphic setting set to lowest speed
Look at ground after 10 seconds FPS is 20 with UI on

With UI off FPS is 43 looking at the ground after 10 seconds

Also after 2 hours play I get Warning Memory is low, Running with reduced textures. (No change in FPS when warning appears. Restart game and warning is gone.

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CPU: Core 2 Duo E6750 2.6 ghz
Video: GTX260
Ram: 2 GB

No noticeable difference with UI on or off.

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Holy Cow!!!! was struggling with 25-30fps in the desert then turned off the UI, shot immediately to 50-80 fps.

E8400 3ghz DC
ATI 4870 512mb
4GB Corsair Gaming RAM
HUGE difference, if the game had these kind of framerates with the UI on I would be in heaven.

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I hope the devs are looking into this issue urgently as it seems to affect a lot of players T_T

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I'm glad you guys are looking into this, because disabling the UI does help a lot.

Just walking about, FPS w/ UI on : 10-25

Just walking about w/ UI off: 20-55


Looking at the ground w/ UI on: 15-35

Looking at the ground w/ UI off: 30-60

These are both with all lowest settings and framerate stabilizer off.

System Specs:

ATI Radeon Mobility HD 3200, 256 mb dedicated vram, over 1000 vram shared. 500/400 mhz clocks.
3 GB RAM (Fairly fast)
AMD-Turion X2 Dual-core mobile 2.00 Ghz
Windows Vista Home Premium 32-bit

And this is an HP Pavillion dv5z notebook. If that matters at all.

I know, my system blows, but it runs this game well enough for me :)

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Hey all, I'm in particularly interested in UI performance. If you are in game (not sure if the shard is up right now), please try the following.
Slide the video option slider down to the fastest settings (which will be ugly-- that's OK, this is for diagnosis of the problem).
/showfps
Have your character look at the ground
wait ten seconds
write down the fps and ms/frame (all numbers shown in the upper right)
Hit Alt+F12
wait ten seconds
write down the fps and ms/frame (all numbers shown in the upper right)
Post with your graphics and computer stats like you have been.

This will be HUGELY helpful. I thank all of you for giving us a hand with this.

AMD Phenom 9750 Quad core 2.4ghz
8gb ram
Vista 64bit
Gforce 9100

With the UI on in the powerhouse, looking up like normal, Im sitting at 20fps. I look at the floor and it instantly shoots up to 35-50fps. Turn off the UI. No change at normal view, look down and its at 50-65fps.

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CPU: Phenom x4 9650
Video: Radeon 4870 (1 gig)
4 gigs of DDR2-800 ram (on Windows 7, 64 bit)

UI on: between 18-23fps, sometime spikes as high as 30 for a second or two
UI off: around 25-30fps, might spike up to 34 for a second or two.

With UI off it's acceptable performance, but I'd honestly expect a little more out of my hardware.

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I have:

Intel Dual Core 2.8 GHz
2 Gig Ram
Windows Vista 32 bit
NVidia GE Force 9300 card

The card is patched to the latest Drivers; however, I get stupidly low FPS, with 15 at best and usually less then ten. Turning the UI off doesn't make any difference.

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Intel Core 2 Duo 2.67GHz
EVGA GTX 260
4GB RAM
Vista 64-bit

All FPS with "minimum" video options
Looking at ground with UI on: ~30fps
Looking at ground with UI off: ~72fps

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Intel Core 2 Duo 2.5 Ghz
NVida 9800GT 512mb
4 GB DDR3 RAM
Windows 7 x64

I see an increase of about 15-20 fps if I turn off the UI. Obviously this isn't an ideal solution as the UI is needed to actually play the game.

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Fiiix it ><, I paid full price for this on the preorder, I really dont wanna leave but i dont want to pay for a game i cant play above the 800 x 600 resolution!

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Intel Core 2 Duo 2.5 Ghz
NVida 9800GT 512mb
4 GB DDR3 RAM
Windows 7 x64

I see an increase of about 15-20 fps if I turn off the UI. Obviously this isn't an ideal solution as the UI is needed to actually play the game.

Same here. Removing the UI gives me a huge boost that puts my FPS into the range of what one would normally expect.

NVIDIA GTX 275
Intel 2 6600 quad @3.2ghz
4 gb ram
Vista 64

I'm pretty much stuck in the 20s range in a lot of areas although I get into the 30-40 range in others. Removing the UI puts me at 60.

It really needs to be looked into, although I am sure they are. Obviously it is hard to balance things on a wide range of hardware but why the hell is the UI gobbling up 20-25 fps???

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Intel Quad Core 2.8
4 gig ram
Vista 64
Ati Radeon 4870 x 2


Had about 60+ and it went up above 90 with out the UI. All on the highest settings. Standing in Canada in the middle of nowhere with just some npc's around.

It's about 30 fps diffrence, whats up with that ?

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- corei7 2.66
- geforce gtx 285 2gigs
- 6 gigs
- no difference...

with the lowest video setting, I get about 30fps tops, and this wihout any action. Once I find some action, that drops to about 15-20 fps. When I switch my video settings to the "recommended" settings I get 7-9 fps.

Pathetic... I really have no idea what to do.

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I have had horrible fps problems since beta start.

3.2 ghz pentium 4
radeon x850pro
3gb ram
10-12 fps in tutorial area, when i shut off the ui , it goes up to almost 25 and is perfectly playable. I cancelled my order because i figured it will be a long time before this gets fixed, but if there is something done about this ill will purchase the game immediatly. Its a great game and i would love to play it, but currently its unplayable for me.

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OK here we go:

CPU Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 2.83GHz
Graphics ATI Radeon HD 4850 X2
RAM 4GB
OS Windows Vista 64Bit
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UI on, all settings down, looking down
~59.5 FPS - 16.7m/fm
My graphic cards analysze tool says: GPUs running at 36% activity
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UI off, all settings down, looking down
the same values, as with UI turned on
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With my standard settings, running around, UI on
~29-50 FPS - 25m/fm
My graphic cards analysze tool says: GPUs running at 91% activity
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With my standard settings, running around, UI off
still no changes

So without stress I get OK FPS, but what I realized (don't know if it got to do with that):
In the character creator, I get OK FPS but my GPUs are running at 99% activity, both collants running at high speed. As soon as I keep a slider in the creator pressed (be it eye-glow, or the site sliders for body/face), the FPS goes down to stutterung rates (I guess 10 FPS) and the GPU activity drops to 25%, cooling getting low. As soon as I let loose the slider (I dont have to move the slider for this to happen, just keep the slider "active" - mouse pressed) the cooling pitches high, activity back to maximum, but framerates fine too.
Maybe its not the UI per se, but UI-activity?

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I am getting a 20-25 fps increase when I turn off the AI. Just minimizing the chat window gives a 6-8 fps increase!

With Max settings and UI on: 20fps
With Max settings and UI off: 45fps
Win Min settings and UI on: 25fps
With Min settings and UI off: 55+

I turned PhysX off and here is what I got:
With Max settings and UI on: 66fps
With Max settings and UI off: 102fps
Win Min settings and UI on: 45fps
With Min settings and UI off: 48fps


Intel Q8200, quad core 2.34 GHz
8Gig RAM
GeForce 250 GTS w/1GB
Resolution: 1280X1024

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Very noticeable difference with UI turned off.
I run at 1920x1080 with game settings left at the default 100%, but have the auto-adjusting mechanism turned off in the Troubleshooting section because it actually slows the game down instead of speeding it up like it should.


OS: Windows 7 RC1 x64
CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6700 @ 2.66GHz 2.67GHz
Video: BFG GeForce GTX 285 OC 1GB GDDR3, PCI Express 2.0
RAM: 4.00 GB DDR2 PC6400 800MHz 4-4-4-12
Mainboard: Asus P5Q-E Green


Tossed in a bit of additional detail, just in case. I've had motherboards cause problems with games before.

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Vista 64
Intel E8500 @ 3.3Ghz
ATI 4870 512 @ 1650x1080
8GB Ram

Stress Test @ Max Setting

10-20FPS with UI
30+FPS without UI

At any detail level, even if the framerate is high, the game still feels rough and jerky.

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Hey all, I'm in particularly interested in UI performance. If you are in game (not sure if the shard is up right now), please try the following.
Slide the video option slider down to the fastest settings (which will be ugly-- that's OK, this is for diagnosis of the problem).
/showfps
Have your character look at the ground
wait ten seconds
write down the fps and ms/frame (all numbers shown in the upper right)
Hit Alt+F12
wait ten seconds
write down the fps and ms/frame (all numbers shown in the upper right)
Post with your graphics and computer stats like you have been.

This will be HUGELY helpful. I thank all of you for giving us a hand with this.

With UI: 59.95 (16.7m/fm)
Without UI: No significant change

However, when I'm running around (not staring at the ground), I notice a 10-15fps increase with the UI turned off, which makes a significant qualitative difference.

Vista Ultimate 64
Intel Core 2 6600@2.40GHz
4 GB RAM
NVidia 8800 GT @ 1920x1200

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i7 965 extreme 3.20 GHz
nVidia 295 GTX
12.0 GB RAM
Windows VIsta sp2 64bit

in the desert
looking through a crowd low 20-25
no crowd 30-33

no difference when UI off or on

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Vista x64
E 6850
XFX 8800 GT
3 GB Corsair

UI got 10-15 frames from the regular. 35 Frames around and massiv framedrops in some areas. No clue.

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Vista 32 bit
E7200
2 gig ram

Didn't notice a big difference. Mine is more when i first start out I get 60 fps but after a couple min of game play it drops to 5-10. If i restart client I start off great again and then it drops after a couple of min. It doesn't matter what I seem to be doing after a certain time it just drops off.

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Hey all, I'm in particularly interested in UI performance. If you are in game (not sure if the shard is up right now), please try the following.
Slide the video option slider down to the fastest settings (which will be ugly-- that's OK, this is for diagnosis of the problem).
/showfps
Have your character look at the ground
wait ten seconds
write down the fps and ms/frame (all numbers shown in the upper right)
Hit Alt+F12
wait ten seconds
write down the fps and ms/frame (all numbers shown in the upper right)
Post with your graphics and computer stats like you have been.

This will be HUGELY helpful. I thank all of you for giving us a hand with this.

Looks like I missed this post first time round.

Here's the info you asked for...seems there have been some improvements to fps in the past two patches.

UI on, looking at the ground with slider set to Fastest :

75.12 fps (13.0m/fm) This is the first time I've seen a frame rate this high, but obviously it dropped to 20-30 when I looked back up and started moving around again.

UI off, looking at the ground with slider set to Fastest :

115.36 fps (8.8m/fm).

As above, that is a massive increase to normal, but the game looks like crap, my PC is capable of much more, and it drops considerably when I start moving - and of course playing without the UI is clearly not an option.

Intel Dual Core 2.5Ghz
4GB DDR3 RAM
NVidia 9800GT 512mb card
Windows 7

It's clear the UI is seriouly affecting people's performance, along with other things like putting more pressure on the CPU than the GPU.

Here's hoping this gets sorted. :)

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CPU
Video Card
RAM
Is there a noticeable difference when you turn the UI off?




Core 2 Duo @ 2.4 Ghz
ATI 4870 1 GB
8 GB RAM
YES ... it doubles the framerate from 35 to 75+

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Hey all, I'm in particularly interested in UI performance. If you are in game (not sure if the shard is up right now), please try the following.
Slide the video option slider down to the fastest settings (which will be ugly-- that's OK, this is for diagnosis of the problem).
/showfps
Have your character look at the ground
wait ten seconds
write down the fps and ms/frame (all numbers shown in the upper right)
Hit Alt+F12
wait ten seconds
write down the fps and ms/frame (all numbers shown in the upper right)
Post with your graphics and computer stats like you have been.

This will be HUGELY helpful. I thank all of you for giving us a hand with this.

I guess I missed this too.

resolution 1280x1024
With UI 10.74 (93.8m/fm)
Without UI 11.25 (88.1m/fm)

resolution 800x600
With UI 24.05 (41.2m/fm/fm)
Without UI 26.65 (38.9m/fm)


CPU:AMD Athlon II X2 2.9GHz True Dual Core Design
GPU: ATI Radeon HD 3200 Graphics (Note: This is the motherboard graphics)
RAM: G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500)

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Well, I don't know by heart what exactly's in this thing, but I know the 15" Macbook Pro has a standardized loadout. That said, I run Champions on Windows XP SP3 through Bootcamp.

I can run the game on almost-maxed specs (minus FSAA) with an FPS that's usually anywhere from 5-20.

Anyway, to cut to the heart of the matter, disabling my UI doesn't increase my perdormace by any noticeable difference.

Just thought I'd throw in my two cents.

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Intel Core Quad Q9400 @ 2,66 Ghz
Nvidia Geforce 9800 GTX
4 Gb Ram (only bout 3 Gb used because of Vista 32 Bit)

I run the game on 1280*1024 nearly everything set to max and the fps vary from 14 to 30 depending
on the environment.
Disableing the UI only brings a tiny performance boost around 2-3 fps.

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Got the same Problems....disabling UI dont Help at all....
Intel C2Q @ 2.4 GHz 8GB ram ASUS Ati Radeon 4890
Windows 7 X64

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I've done what both Daeke and poz said, but I did a little extra too. I hope I don't botch this up.

Hey everyone,

If you're still experiencing performance issues (that is, slow framerates, NOT rubberbanding), try turning off your UI and see if that improves your performance.

To turn off your UI: Alt+F12
To check your FPS before and after: /showfps 1 (/showfps 0 to turn this off)

Post in this thread with your system specs, specifically:

CPU
Video Card
RAM
Is there a noticeable difference when you turn the UI off?


Thanks!
Daeke
This is at the recommended settings, nothing changed. I'm looking around as if I was actually playing the game. These aren't the exact numbers I get most of the time, these are only the peak FPS I usually reach.

25 FPS (40.0 m/fm) with the UI turned on
35 FPS (28.0 m/fm) with the UI turned off

I actually left the game running for a few minutes with the UI turned off and after awhile it dropped down to 25 FPS for some reason and wouldn't go over 30.

Again, with the recommended settings only I used poz's suggestion/steps of looking at the ground.

35 FPS (28.0 m/fm) with the UI turned on
60 FPS (16.9 m/fm) with the UI turned off


Hey all, I'm in particularly interested in UI performance. If you are in game (not sure if the shard is up right now), please try the following.
Slide the video option slider down to the fastest settings (which will be ugly-- that's OK, this is for diagnosis of the problem).
/showfps
Have your character look at the ground
wait ten seconds
write down the fps and ms/frame (all numbers shown in the upper right)
Hit Alt+F12
wait ten seconds
write down the fps and ms/frame (all numbers shown in the upper right)
Post with your graphics and computer stats like you have been.

This will be HUGELY helpful. I thank all of you for giving us a hand with this.

This is following poz's suggestion/steps exactly. The graphics slider was set to speed, no advanced options were changed. Also looking at the ground.

35 FPS (27.9 m/fm) with the UI turned on
77 FPS (13.0 m/fm) with the UI turned off


Finally, my system specs:

CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo P8400 @ 2.26 GHz
Video Card: Nvidia GeForce 9800M GTS 1GB
RAM: 4GB
Resolution: 1920x1200
Yes, there's a noticeable difference when I turn the UI off.

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CPU Intel Core 2 Duo Processor T5900 (2.2 GHz, 800MHz FSB, 2MB L2 cache)
NVIDIA GeForce 9500M (512mb)
4GB DDR2 RAM


My FPS jump anywhere from 5 an extra 5-30 FPS depending.
Also running the game on only one of my processors as opposed to using both of them gives me a large performance boost as well. Hope you get this ironed out soon, very annoying.


EDIT: Using the FASTEST settings and looking at the ground my frames were followed

38.0 (25.9m/FM) With UI Enabled
56 (17.8m/FM) With UI Disabled

obvious jump in frames.

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Hey everyone,

If you're still experiencing performance issues (that is, slow framerates, NOT rubberbanding), try turning off your UI and see if that improves your performance.

To turn off your UI: Alt+F12
To check your FPS before and after: /showfps 1 (/showfps 0 to turn this off)

Post in this thread with your system specs, specifically:

CPU
Video Card
RAM
Is there a noticeable difference when you turn the UI off?


Thanks!
Daeke

Q6600 OC 3.0
EVGA GTX 8800 512 x2 SLI
4GB OCZ Reaper
6fps difference between UI on and off (21 to 27 fps)
All options at full in Windowed mode 1280x1024.

Hey all, I'm in particularly interested in UI performance. If you are in game (not sure if the shard is up right now), please try the following.
Slide the video option slider down to the fastest settings (which will be ugly-- that's OK, this is for diagnosis of the problem).
/showfps
Have your character look at the ground
wait ten seconds
write down the fps and ms/frame (all numbers shown in the upper right)
Hit Alt+F12
wait ten seconds
write down the fps and ms/frame (all numbers shown in the upper right)
Post with your graphics and computer stats like you have been.

This will be HUGELY helpful. I thank all of you for giving us a hand with this.

For Poz:

Intel Q6600 OC 3.0
EVGA GTX 8800 512 x2 SLI
4GB OCZ Reaper
Nvidia Drivers 190.56
Windows 7 RC
1280x1024 Windowed Mode
45.60 21.5m/fm with UI
87.38 11.6m/fm without UI
3840x1024 Full Screen (Triple Monitor)
46.44 21.6 m/fm
89.94 11.1 m/fm

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I see a steady 15 fps increase turning off the UI while using recommended settings. I also noticed that opening up the options window drops the fps by 2-3 fps.

CPU - Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 @ 3GHz
Video Card - Nvidia 9800 GTX with 512 meg ram
Ram - 2 Gigs of DDR 3 - 1066

In case it helps, I'm using Nvidia's newest driver's 190.62 and using Vista 32bit.

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CPU: Intel E8400 3.0 Ghz Dual Core
GPU: nVidia GeForce 8800 GTS
RAM: 4.0 Gigs of DDR2
Windows Vista with all latest video and OS drivers.

Everything High:
UI on - 15-20fps
UI off - 45-50fps

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1 GB 9800gt
E5200 @ 3.625
4 GB Ram
Vista 64
Resolution @ 1920x1200

Runs well everything maxed except shadows on low and Bloom off and Terrian detail set at 175%
I average 30-59 fps everywhere. V sync on at 60 hz
I tabbed out to see my cpu graph and both cores are always maxed. So i down clocked it to 3.0 Ghz and it dropped my fps by 10 or so in the same place. So i am thinking the game is very cpu intensive.

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CPU: Intel E6600 2.4 GHz
GPU: Nvidia 9800 GT 1GB
RAM: 4GB (3GB usable)
Windows 7 32-bit

about 16-22 fps with and without the UI

PS: My speed/quality meter thingy is at Recommended. Does this automatically move when you change settings? I have yet to see it change, as I drastically change the settings around.

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1 GB 9800gt
E5200 @ 3.625
4 GB Ram
Vista 64
Resolution @ 1920x1200

Runs well everything maxed except shadows on low and Bloom off and Terrian detail set at 175%
I average 30-59 fps everywhere. V sync on at 60 hz
I tabbed out to see my cpu graph and both cores are always maxed. So i down clocked it to 3.0 Ghz and it dropped my fps by 10 or so in the same place. So i am thinking the game is very cpu intensive.

Yeah, we have similar setups, but your processor is much faster. I am running at 1920x1080 btw. Forgot to mention that. Also, when I try that "half resolution" setting--still runs crappy, let alone how horrible it looks. :P

And what's what all these over 100% meters, anyway? When I turn the terrain detail above 100%, I see no difference, so I leave it at 100.

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Daeke,

I noticed something rather odd....and I am not sure if its the zone or time of playing. First thing I did when I got into the game today was the test as you asked.

Specs:
AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5000+ 2.6Ghz
4GB of System DDR2 Memory
Running Windows RC 7 64bit
1280x800 Recommended Video except Outlining was turned off.
NVidia 8500GT 1GB Video Mem

Testing this as soon as I got into the tutorial:
UI On: 13fps
UI Off: 14fps

Heres what is odd....couple hours later in Canada after finishing the initial quest lines there:

UI On: 19fps
UI Off: 35fps

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Running-
ATI Radeon HD 4850
Intel Quad-Core i7-920 Processor
3 gigs

All testing done in the desert zone.

With UI on..
Average about 15-20 fps standing still, depending on if anything is going on around me
Around 5-15 while flying around

Toggling the UI off..
Only boosts me up by about 5 fps on each.

Yes, it is a very noticeable difference, though still very choppy even with the UI off.

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i get around 20-25fps increase with ui off

Specs:

Pentium d (dual core) 2.8ghz
Nvidia 8800gt 512mb alpha dog edition
4GB 800mhz ram

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Running-
ATI Radeon HD 4850
Intel Quad-Core i7-920 Processor
3 gigs

All testing done in the desert zone.

With UI on..
Average about 15-20 fps standing still, depending on if anything is going on around me
Around 5-15 while flying around

Toggling the UI off..
Only boosts me up by about 5 fps on each.

Yes, it is a very noticeable difference, though still very choppy even with the UI off.

with a freaken i7 quad, even?! ouch...

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i get around 20-25fps increase with ui off

Specs:

Pentium d (dual core) 2.8ghz
Nvidia 8800gt 512mb alpha dog edition
4GB 800mhz ram

ok, what the hell...it's all starting to look so sporadic now.

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CPU = Pentium 4 (two cores, 2.8GHz each)
Video Card = Gigabyte GeForce GTS250 (1GB)
RAM = 2.5GB system, 1GB video
ISP connection = 3 megabit DSL (I know you didn't ask for it, but you're getting it anyway - see below for why)


Parked high in the air over Project Greenskin, post-crisis, facing Southwest (no players in field of view): 27.50 average FPS with UI enabled; 39.1 average FPS with UI disabled.

Moving forward, same view and circumstances: 15-20 average FPS with UI enabled; 30 average FPS with UI disabled, albeit with some wild variance (one moment down to 13, then bac 30+, then a moment at 24, and agian back to 30+).

INCIDENTAL OBSERVATION: With the UI enabled, especially ... my FPS slowly, but erratically, IMPROVED as I left PHYSICAL proximity to other players, regardless of theri visibility.

Hovering just over the helicopter, same zone, facing due north (3 players in direct field of view; unknown number on other side of wall): 15 average FPS with UI enabled; 20 average FPS with UI disabled. :(

Moving forward, same view and circumstances: 10 average FPS with a general trend of steady decline as I moved (getting as low as 1.7 frames per second ... REGARDLESS OF UI ENABLED/DISABLED. :( :mad:

ANECDOTALTESTIMONY: Generally speaking, I am used to dipping to the 3- frames per scond level whenever I travel, and there's a player character ANYwhere ahead of me. Large numbers of "static", contact- and vendor-type NPCs seem to have a similar effect (flying in to Steelhead, to get to Justiciar, is always a NIGHTMARE - it's supposed to be "frames per second", not "seconds per frame").

SUBJECTIVE GUESS: I think it's more than just the UI. I think it's also somethign to do with other players - network traffic maybe, relating to players telling each others' client "I have parts A, C, F, and G colored like so" ...? Hence mentioning my internet connection speed, above.

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Intel Core2Duo @ 2.2 GHZ
3GB RAM
8600 GT Core @ 865, Shader @ 1903, Memory @ 400 on a PCI-E 1 slot.
Definitely not a beast of a computer, but I'm throwing in my info if it'll help. Everything's @ 1152x864 60hz maximized windowed mode. I get less FPS in fullscreen for some reason.

In my Nvidia control panel I made sure to turn threaded optimization to off and pre-rendered frames to 0. These both have helped my FPS a little bit.

I'm staring at the ground on the minimum settings in Millennium City and I'm getting 28 FPS.
With the UI off it bounces around at 55 FPS.

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core2duo running at 2.2ghz
2gb ram
8800 gs
i have trouble keeping my framerate above 20fps on average settings with some performance tweeks

is this normal for my set up? seems a bit choppy to me...

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Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4 Ghz
2 Gig RAM
Nvidia Quandro FX 570M
Get about 10-15 FPS increase with the UI disabled

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Hey everyone,

If you're still experiencing performance issues (that is, slow framerates, NOT rubberbanding), try turning off your UI and see if that improves your performance.

To turn off your UI: Alt+F12
To check your FPS before and after: /showfps 1 (/showfps 0 to turn this off)

Post in this thread with your system specs, specifically:

CPU
Video Card
RAM
Is there a noticeable difference when you turn the UI off?


Thanks!
Daeke

SONY VAIO Notebook

2.1 Dual core ATI 4650

I get 25 frames a second MORE when My ui is disabled.

Who ever you are, what ever you do, you nailed it. THE UI is the problem, with no doubt. I go from 20 frames standing still to 45 just by turning it off, hell i'm able to keep my frames in the green while using my travel power as long as its off.

MY GUESS? the mini map is taking up a lot of resources.. but who knows.

I hope you guys fix this sooon, because it's bad. But atleast now I can bind e to turn off console and use it while superrunning lol

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I just tested this on both the Maximum and the Minimum settings. On the Maximum setting I only noticed about a 2-5 fps increase when disabling the UI. However on the Minimum setting I noticed about a 50-60 fps increase. Both tests were done in Project Greenskin on the same shard.

System Specs:

CPU: Intel Core i7 CPU 920@ 2.67GHz (8 CPUs) ~2.7Ghz

Graphic Card: NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GTX+

RAM: 3062MB (Damn Vista 32-bit not recognizing more... I actually have 6GB)

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I just tested this on both the Maximum and the Minimum settings. On the Maximum setting I only noticed about a 2-5 fps increase when disabling the UI. However on the Minimum setting I noticed about a 50-60 fps increase. Both tests were done in Project Greenskin on the same shard.

System Specs:

CPU: Intel Core i7 CPU 920@ 2.67GHz (8 CPUs) ~2.7Ghz

Graphic Card: NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GTX+

RAM: 3062MB (Damn Vista 32-bit not recognizing more... I actually have 6GB)

Why don't you just have 4GB, instead of 6?

Anyhoo, might I ask what your fps actually is, with that insane CPU? :)
What resolution, too?

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Intel Core 2 Duo E6750
ATI Radeon 4890 1Gb
4GB RAM DDR2 1066 Mhz

Noticeable change in fps with UI turn off

On Windows XP 32b :
With UI : 20-25 fps
UI turn off : 45-55 fps

On Windows Seven 64b :
With UI : 18-25 fps
UI turn off : 35-45 fps

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no change for me 17fps with ui on and off. see sig for specs.

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3Ghz quad @ 3.6
4870x2
8gb DDR3 @1066
Vista 64

For most of the time i get around 50ish fps with Post Processing turned off, when enabled i get anywhere from 15-50 fps. There is an improvement when i disable the UI, but its very minor.
I only tested in Mill city though, i know its a lot worse in the tutorial zone.
Thanks for looking into this matter, im sure my system should cut trough this game like a hot knife trough butter

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These are my specs.

- Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6400 @ 2.13GHz

- NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GT

- 8GB RAM

I go from 21 to 38 FPS when I turn off my UI, while standing around in millenium city.

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* CPU: AMD PHenom 9600 Quad core(2.3 Ghz)
* Video Card: ATI Radeon HD 4670 512mb
* RAM: 4 GB
* Is there a noticeable difference when you turn the UI off?
Yes I notice a difference in fps.

I did as instructed and lowered my settings to the fastest when testing.
With UI on:25.93 (38.6m/fm)
With UI off:48.95 (20.4m/fm)

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CPU - Intel P4 3.00 GHz
Ram - 4 Gigs
System - Windows Vista 64-Bit
Graphics card - Dual SLI GeForce 8600 GT (SLI and PhysX is Disabled)

with UI on - 10 to 15 FPS
with UI off - 30-35 FPS


Hope we can get some kind of fix =( I can run most games on high, COH, WoW, Call of Duty 4/5 and have no problems at all.
This game is great the only problem I seem to have is video lag.

Thanks for the hard work Cryptic, keep it up !

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CPU C2D E6600 2,4GHz
Video Card Nvidia 8800 GTS 320Mb, drivers 190.62 default settings
RAM 4GB DDR2
Windows 7 RC x64
Is there a noticeable difference when you turn the UI off? yes at low res, at high res gives more solid fps


location: 5465 278 -1164, on top of a statue looking at the powerhouse wheel

resolution: 1024x768 (destkop), recommended quality settings
fps with UI: 23 to 28
fps without UI: 34 to 43
/showmem 1 reports: Memory actual: 830, tracked: 553 (after a few seconds)

resolution: 1360x768 (destkop), recommended quality settings
fps with UI: 22 to 27
fps without UI: 26 to 34

resolution: 1600x900 (desktop), recommended quality settings
fps with UI: 17 to 27
fps without UI: 25 to 27

resolution: 1920x1080 (destkop), recommended quality settings
fps with UI: 18 to 22
fps without UI: 20 to 22

resolutiom: 2048x1152 (desktop), recommended quality settings
fps with UI: 17 to 20
fps without UI: 18 to 20
/showmem 1 reports: Memory actual: 858, tracked: 557 (after a few seconds)

fps is not constant due to npc and players moving in and out of the screen.
when flying through MC fps drops to 0 whatever resolution and quality setting.

update: this really s***s:
hp laptop 8510w with nvidia quadro 570M (256M) and T7500 running win7 rc 32bit performs overall better going in and out of project greenskin: 13-16 _constant_ fps at 1680x1050 low details + 100% world detail + UI on, while my 8800 gts (320M) and E6600 with the same settings but win7 rc 64bit does 3 to 65 very unstable fps. tried also older nvidia driver 186.18, no luck...is the x64 bit windows the problem?

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Geforce 8800
P4 3.2 duel core
2 gig's of ddr ram

I seen an improvement, but my game is already set on bare minimum. Not cool. I thought this game was going to span a wide variety of systems.

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Intel Core 2 Quad CPU Q9400
NVIDIA 9800S SLI
4GB DDR2
I don't get any performance increase by turning off the UI, none at all.

I've tried turning Threaded Optimization from Auto to Off as said in the other thread, but didn't help.
Tried turning off SLI to a single GPU, didn't help.
Tried using motherboard GPU, lost about 15-25 FPS

Turning shadows from high to off increased my FPS up about 5-10 frames
Not much else really increases framerate much.

Just a word of advice about Cinematic Focus (depth of field) graphics option:
Turning it off really made the image "pop", it looks much sharper, more detailed, almost like the resolution was higher. The default setting for me was turned on, I personally think it should definately default to OFF, as this could be a possible framerate increase for some people as well.

Yea, framerate is pretty bad, I think it was better pre-headstart but didn't bother to check my FPS then.
Current framerate with "recommended" settings 1920x1080 with shadows turned off:

20-30fps standing still and rotating display in the hub of Disaster in the Desert area, where the soldiers on the stretchers are.

Awesome graphics, though I hope by release Cryptic can figure out how to make the game run a lot smoother for us having issues to give all inclusive new players a really good impression. Plus, sucks for me to have to play with unstable and in-the-red FPS

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Well i tried the UI off and on and there is no differance for me. The game plays pretty well . I came here trying to find out if this game would use 4 cores on a cpu as it maxes both my cores 100% while in the game. As far as the sliders being maxed past 100% i messed with them and the only one i see a differance for the most part visualy in the game is world detail lvl. Antialiasing is a killer. Mine is set at 2x. Setting it to off is a tad faster but in a game like this with all the buildings i prefer to have it on somewhat and like i said in earlyer post bloom is off and shadows on low. Thing is even though the fps stay what would seem to be good for this game around 30 at lowest to an average in the 40's - 50's it still seems like its not as smooth as it should be when turning around fast while playing. Like it drops down way low a split second the goes back up. Small hickups. I wonder if the fps tool doesnt update fast enough to se that?

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Windows Vista 32-bit
ATI Radeon HD 4870
Intel Core2 - 1.86ghz / 1.86ghz
3 gig RAM DDR2

Definetely a difference with the UI turned off. Details as follows...

Location: Standing in Project Greenskin staring at the Grond statue.

FPS with UI turned on: ~ 31-35
FPS with UI turned off: ~ 50-53

Thats a 20 frame jump which is significant.

Other things to note:

When I open the options panel and the video options, my FPS drops from 31-35 to 27-31. Just from opening and extra window. Looks like the graphics are integrated with the UI instead of the UI just being an overlay and thats a major part of the problem. Even with that said, it should be at most a 5 FPS hit, not 20.

Also my BIGGEST complaint is the massive stuttering when using my travel power. I'm sure it has everything to do with the game not drawing the characters fast enough at high velocity. This doesn't happen at all with normal running, only when using travel (my travel of choice is superjump).
This happens regardless of UI on or off, video settings maxed or minimum. And its very annoying. :mad:

Unfortunately I believe this problem wont be fixable .

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After finding this thread I started doing some testing. All testing was done from the roof of Mercy Hospital and I took the same path teleporting off the northwest corner and flying straight. Here are my results.

Windows 7
Pentium Dual Core 2.80GHz
ATI Radeon 4870 1GB
4GB RAM
1920x1200

Mercy Hospital Roof
No Movement
1. UI: on
2. Sliders: 100%
3. AA: off
4. Lighting: Low
FPS = 30

1. UI: off
2. Sliders: 100%
3. AA: off
4. Lighting: Low
FPS = 55

1. UI: on
2. Sliders: 200% Terrain Detail: 300%
3. AA: 8x
4. Lighting: High
FPS = 27

1. UI: off
2. Sliders: 200% Terrain Detail: 300%
3. AA: 8x
4. Lighting: High
FPS = 50

Reguardless of settings, if I use my travel power, my FPS drops below 10.


Standing in front of MC Prison
No Movement
1. UI: on
2. Sliders: 100%
3. AA: off
4. Lighting: Low
FPS = 25

1. UI: off
2. Sliders: 100%
3. AA: off
4. Lighting: Low
FPS = 47

1. UI: on
2. Sliders: 200% Terrain Detail: 300%
3. AA: 8x
4. Lighting: High
FPS = 25

1. UI: off
2. Sliders: 200% Terrain Detail: 300%
3. AA: 8x
4. Lighting: High
FPS = 37

If I run from the Prison door to the Prison gate I get around 24 FPS. If I use my travel power I drop down to 12 FPS. Thos FPS hold with and without the UI enabled.

It seems like there are a couple issues here.

1. The UI

2. Either travel powers in general or teleporting.

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Its been 3 days since this thread was started, and it looks like you guys have lots of data, and a resounding conclusion about the effect of the UI on performance. How about an update...we all need hope!

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CPU: Intel Core i7 940 2.93 ghz
Video Card: ATI Radeon HD 4870 x2
RAM: Samsung 6gb DDR3 1066mhz

The fps changed quite a bit with the UI off.

While moving, my fps average was about 43 with the UI. Without the UI it shot up to about 58 average.
While standing still looking at the ground, my fps average was about 80 with the UI. Without the UI is was about 140. (Tested in MC)

Most of my sliders are at 100%, but most of my other settings are on low except bloom, AA, and lighting.

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OS: Windows Vista Home Premium x64bit
CPU: Intel Core i7 920 2.67 ghz
Video Card: Nvidia 285 (1 GB) (drivers 190.62)
RAM: 6 GB DDR3 1600 MHz

FPS using Minimum settings (Res: 1280x1024), while looking at floor and zoomed in so character not in view:

UI ON: 102 (9.7m/fm)

UI OFF: 177 (5.6m/fm)

The UI seems to cost about 4ms/fm on other settings too.

On almost maximum settings, i get a decent 35-60fps with the camera still. But changing the view is when I experience terrible performance. I guess i don't know what kind of numbers i should be getting for my system, but this occurs on Recommened settings badly still so something must be wrong. The frame rate can drop as low as 1-5 fps if i rotate the camera rapidly, which is really irritating as the game noticeably lags and stutters. It returns to normal within 10sec with the camera still :mad:.

From reading other forums posts: I turned off Threaded Optimisation in Nvidia control panel which improves static fps but not the above problem. Setting the clients processor affinity to only 1 core makes things worse for me (100% useage on that core).

I have to set World Level Detail very low to minimize the lag when changing view :( The problem seems to be something with switching between Level of Detail and/or View direction/Frustum culling etc. My client never seems to use more than about 500mb of memory (doesn't exceed 52% total system wide useage), Is there some Agressive memory management in operation? Perhaps object/buildings etc are being unloaded as soon as they go offscreen, hence causing delays if i turn to view them again as they have to be reloaded into memory / onto the GPU.

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I just tested this in the tutorial but I go from 20-25 fps to about 35-40 when I turn the ui off.

AMD Phenom 9150e Quad-core processor 1.80 ghz
windows vista 64 bit
7 gig ram
ATI Radeon HD 4850 512mb

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CPU: P4 3GHz,
Mem: 2GB RAM,
Vid: Sapphire HD 3850 AGP,
OS: XP (SP3)

FPS w/ UI on: 31.19 (32.5m/fm)
FPS w/ UI off: 63.44 (15.9m/fm)

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It did make a difference for me moving around actually. Was sitting between 15-30 with UI on and sit between 25-45 with it off.

E8400 core2duo 3.00ghz
4gb DDR2
4870X2

Edit: changed results due to more testing.

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Miami Florida

And Phenom Ii X3 2.80 Ghz


4 Gb Ram



250 Hd



9600 Geforce Gso




I Cant Even Get On The Game N The 3 Times I Have Over The Past 5 Days Shuts Me Down In Secs Always Someting Different Blue Screens Black Screns Error Messages Hoggs Blah Blah ;( Plz Fix It

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AMD Athlon X2 Dual Core, 2.31 GHZ
3 Gigs of Ram
Geforce 9600GT

Turning off my UI gains me about 20 FPS I go from 25ish to 45ish, so basically choppy and barely playable to fun town!

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Just tested in an empty powerhouse training room. Staring at the floor I had 50 fps. Turned off the UI and it jumped to 125fps. Turning off chat alone netted me 30fps.

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Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU P8400 @ 2.26GHz (2 CPUs), ~2.3GHz
NVIDIA GeForce 9800M GTS
4090MB RAM
Yes, the fps increases but still only maxes out at 42fps.



I generally get about 40fps in Age of Conan with the settings at about %70 maximum, which is visually far more impressive & complex. I can't even run this game with the quality maxed out, or my frame rate is 15fps or lower. This is extremely odd.

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Hey guys check this out I've got

Core2Duo 2.6 OC'd @ 3.59
EVGA 680i Motherboard
EVGA 8800 GTS 320Gb x2 Sli
8 gigs RAM Croshair 1333Mhz (I know it's too much but I had to put them somewhere safe)
Windows XP 64

When I first started the game was choppy and laggy and I couldn't see my mouse. I needed the mouse tricks to fix it so I can try to change my other freaking settings. Adding -softwarecursor to the Advanced command line in Options did the trick for a while but the pointer went away again eventually every time.

The Resolution was set to like 800x600 and the Quality was maxed by default. I had nothing but framerate issues at first so I set the Resolution to match my desktop at 1900x1200 and lowered the quality to about a Third. No frame rate issues what so ever now! and the graphics are okay also fixed my pointer issue. I still get frame Rate issues if I set my quality to 2/3's. It seems to jump in thirds.

I understand there is an issue with the WinXP64 RealTek Sound Drivers. I got lucky, My G35 Logitech Headset has no issues. I'm betting other USB headsets will have as much luck but that's certainly no fix.

And then Of course there is the fact that it's been 95 feaking degrees in my apartment here in LA since the freaking AC is out. OCing the processor the way I am Results in occasional shutdowns right now.

Anyway best of luck hope that helps some of you guys.

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E8500
GTX 280
4gb
50% increase in fps (very large)

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Why don't you just have 4GB, instead of 6?

Anyhoo, might I ask what your fps actually is, with that insane CPU? :)
What resolution, too?

<EDIT> I'm actually not sure why my computer lists my RAM at 3GB instead of 4GB, but I know I installed 6GB and I am just waiting to buy WIndows 7 64-bit... Maybe Vista is just showing me available RAM... since it uses up 1GB just to function heh </EDIT>

Well I am currently playing on Maximum settings at 1680x1050 getting 50-70fps with all detail sliders maxed. Antialiasing is at 8x, Shadows High, Reflection High, Bloom High.

I have disabled or reduced a few settings to improve performance, and because I don't really care for some of them anyway (Like Comic-style Outlines).

Things I have turned downed or disabled:

Lighting Quality - Low (With this on High I get about 30-40fps, with it on Low I get 50-70fps)
Screen-space Ambient Occlusion - Off (Haven't really noticed any difference with this on or off)
Cinematic Focus - Off (I don't like the hazy effect on distant objects)
Underwater View - Off (Again I don't like visual distortions, even underwater)

For the most part I can run the game with most important details turned all the way up and it handles pretty well. Only problems I've really run into is a bit of lag and rubberbanding... which I assume is the servers.

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Hey all, I'm in particularly interested in UI performance. If you are in game (not sure if the shard is up right now), please try the following.
Slide the video option slider down to the fastest settings (which will be ugly-- that's OK, this is for diagnosis of the problem).
/showfps
Have your character look at the ground
wait ten seconds
write down the fps and ms/frame (all numbers shown in the upper right)
Hit Alt+F12
wait ten seconds
write down the fps and ms/frame (all numbers shown in the upper right)
Post with your graphics and computer stats like you have been.

This will be HUGELY helpful. I thank all of you for giving us a hand with this.

CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 @ 2.40 GHz
GPU: 2x Nvidia GeForce 9800 GT
RAM: 3.00 GB

UI On: 55 fps 17.5 m/fm
UI Off: 96 fps 11.0 m/fm

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Hey everyone,

If you're still experiencing performance issues (that is, slow framerates, NOT rubberbanding), try turning off your UI and see if that improves your performance.

To turn off your UI: Alt+F12
To check your FPS before and after: /showfps 1 (/showfps 0 to turn this off)

Post in this thread with your system specs, specifically:

CPU
Video Card
RAM
Is there a noticeable difference when you turn the UI off?


Thanks!
Daeke

I am having issues and it's really becoming annoying. Here are my specs

Operating System: Windows Vista™ Home Premium (6.0, Build 6002) Service Pack 2
Processor: AMD Phenom(tm) 9500 Quad-Core Processor (4 CPUs), ~2.2GHz
Memory: 8190MB RAM
Page File: 2048MB used, 14548MB available
DirectX Version: DirectX 10

There is a big difference when I turn the UI off and it's about a 15 fps difference

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My performance is crap.

E 8400
GTX 285
4 gig RAM

No noticeable difference when I disable the UI.

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Athlon 6000 X2 64
8GB RAM
GeForce 280/1GB
WIN 7/64

I have 15-18 fps most of the time, its hard to play, and while flying i have about 5-10 fps
Very bad performance

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Hey all, I'm in particularly interested in UI performance. If you are in game (not sure if the shard is up right now), please try the following.
Slide the video option slider down to the fastest settings (which will be ugly-- that's OK, this is for diagnosis of the problem).
/showfps
Have your character look at the ground
wait ten seconds
write down the fps and ms/frame (all numbers shown in the upper right)
Hit Alt+F12
wait ten seconds
write down the fps and ms/frame (all numbers shown in the upper right)
Post with your graphics and computer stats like you have been.

This will be HUGELY helpful. I thank all of you for giving us a hand with this.

UI on: 95 fps (10.7 m/fm)
UI off: 152 fps (6.7 m/fm)

Computer:

core2duo E8400@3 GHz
MSI 9600gt 1 GB vRam , Video driver nVidia 190.62 WHQL
2 GB Ram
Realtek onBoard Sound
WinXP 32bit SP 3
Screenresolution: 1440x900 (16:10)

Supergreetings,
Maledicus

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NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T8300 @ 2.40GHz (2 CPUs), ~2.4GHz
Windows Vista 32-bit
DirectX 10

I acheived around 30-40 fps at the recommended level of graphics options (on the slider) by carrying out a few simple actions.

Update your graphics driver.
Changed several settings on the Nvidia control panel - these changes can be found here :http://forums.champions-online.com/showthread.php?t=47420
Turned the lighting options to "Low" in the Video settings in Champions: Online.

Before I carried out these actions I was only able to feesibly play with all the graphics turned to their lowest settings at about 30 fps. Any increase in graphics options would drastically lower the fps but now I can play with relatively high settings.

I highly recommend anyone with problems follow the actions I have taken and see the results.

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it does not allow me to slide down the video slider for some reason

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Is that the general graphics/performance slider? If so you have to untick the "Show all the other advanced options" box or whatever its labelled as underneath the slider.

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My wife and I have 2 very similar systems...

System 1:
Intel Q6600 OC'd to 3.33 Ghz
EVGA GTX295
8 Gig Memory
Vista 64

System 2:
Intel Q6600 OC'd to 3.00 Ghz
EVGA 9800GTX
4 Gig Memory
Vista 64

Both systems with all detail sliders maxxed with the following exceptions:
Comic Outlines OFF
Ambient Occlusion OFF
Cinematic Depth of Field Focus OFF
All the troubleshooting options such as Framerate stabilization and such, OFF

BOTH systems get FPS that is nearly identical....between 10 and 24 average in a heavily populated area with lots of stuff going on. For example, both systems get 20-24 average in Canada outside of force station steelhead...or...both systems get 20-24 average in the Desert in Project Greenskin.

Both systems never have greater than 65% utilization on any one core.

Both systems have core temps that would not indicate any core being 'pushed'.

Both systems video card temps indicate VERY little use of the video card. As a matter of fact, the video card temps are only a few degrees higher than idle.

Neither system shows any significant FPS increase with the UI off

I would expect the system with the 3.33 Ghz clock and brand new GTX 295 video card to at LEAST MARGINALLY outperform the system at 3.00 Ghz and the 9800GTX...however this is not the case...both systems perform near identically. At times, the 3.00 Ghz system with the 9800 GTX actually outperforms the faster system with the better video card.

To benchmark, we jumped into Fallout 3 and also tried LOTRO. Frame rates were silky smooth on both systems. As expected, the 3.33 Ghz GTX 295 system fairly significantly outperformed the 3.00 Ghz 9800GTX system.

Even aside from the systems in my own home, this game seems to be bringing VERY strong systems to its knees in ways I have not seen outside of the tales of Crysis (Which I do not own)...however....in my opinion....the visuals in the game simply do not warrant this type of performance hit. The graphics, effects, models, and animations are very nice but they simply are not anything that is so "next level" compared to other current games that it should be performing this way. On top of that, the zones are heavily instanced (30 or so folks per instance it seems) and with that, you'd REALLY think the performance would not be THIS awful.

The above is nothing more than some raw info in the interest of helping the devs to fix this thing as its obvious that 'something' isn't working correctly.

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dual 2.4ghz core2duo processors (t8800 or something)
4gb ram
8600m gt

game is on 800x600 everything in video options disabled/on lowest and I will lag like no other in cities, I tried about 6 different drivers using the latest nvidia release first and the current ones I am using are the only ones that give a noticeable difference, they are dox's modded 185.85 drivers it might just be that I turned vsync and triple buffering on too and the game runs really smooth although I still play on lowest settings, I dont want any lag whatsoever. The game definetly needs to be smoothed out, my computer isin't that great but I can run almost any game on decent settings and still have no trouble with lag or anything.

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Camera pointed toward the ground.

Resolution: 1366x768
V-Sync: Off
Half Resolution: Off

UI On: 77.71
UI Off: 109.39

OS: WIndows Vista Home Premium 64-Bit Fully Updated
CPU: Core 2 Quad Q8300 2.5 GHz
GPU: Nvidia GeForce 9800 GTX+ OC 512MB
RAM: 4 GB 800 MHz DDR2

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I see a definite performance boost when turning off the UI. Typically it's 10-15 FPS better, in some cases 25+

My system:

Vista 32 bit
Core 2 Duo 2.0 Ghz
2 gig RAM
GeForce 8600 GT (256 MB)

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Hopefully they fix the UI issue very soon

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My system:
XP 64bit
Core 2 Duo 2.1 Ghz ( E6400 )
4 gig RAM DDR2 800Mhz
GeForce 8600 GT (512 MB)

In MC, mid settings + some tunning ( some options off / simple / no shadow )

With UI : 57
Without UI : 85

Really need to do something :)

I try to play without ui now to have a descent fps during fight. playing average with 25fps. Can have now 50 without UI

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My specs:

AMD Phenom Quad Core 2.2 GHZ
EVGA NVIDIA GTS 250 1 Gig onboard ram
3 Gigs of memory (capped by 32 bit OS)
500G HD
Page file set to 20gigs.

Most commonly, my game runs choppy. What I have noticed however using my NVIDIA utilities and task manager: I only use 52% total system ram, I use 92% shader ram on my GTS, I use 98% processor power when the game is running.

What I'm hearing now is that the game is not multi-core friendly? If not this really needs to be addressed. If that ends up optomized I'm sure the game performance complaints will sizably fall away. As I'm sure my biggest problem is processor power. But last I checked, my processor is more than beefy by Crysis standard.

Oh, and my performance goes up by about 8fps with the UI turned off. but it still chugs at about 12- 20fps when I'm running through Millenium City with superspeed on.

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CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo e8400 3.0 GHZ
Video Card: eVGA Geforce 8800 GT 512 MB
RAM: 4 GB DDR2 800

Minimum settings, UI on: max 90, average 85 or so, 10.4m/fm or so
Minimum settings, UI off: max 164, average 154 or so, 6.3-5/fm or so.

Holy /crap/. Thats near double preformance from turning off hte UI. Here's hoping this helps it be tracked down. Thank you for having us test, so we at least know where some of the problem is originating from.
Whoa - how in theee heck does that rig produce those FPS numbers!?!? :eek:

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CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo e8400 3.0 GHZ
Video Card: eVGA Geforce 8800 GT 512 MB
RAM: 4 GB DDR2 800

Minimum settings, UI on: max 90, average 85 or so, 10.4m/fm or so
Minimum settings, UI off: max 164, average 154 or so, 6.3-5/fm or so.

Holy /crap/. Thats near double preformance from turning off hte UI. Here's hoping this helps it be tracked down. Thank you for having us test, so we at least know where some of the problem is originating from.

I have that same exact system setup and for UI on i get roughly the same fps as you do and then for UI off i get 130fps max which still does show evidence that the UI eats up a lot of frames

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My Spec:
E8400 " 3ghz
BFG 9800GTX+ OC2
3 Gig of ram
Windows XP 32bit

Video Settings--- With UI----Without UI
Min ----------------- 20-50--- 20-100
Low-----------------15-50-----15-70
Rec-----------------10-25-----10-25
High----------------1-20-------1-20

This is the FPS I generally get.
My Fps stay at the higher end if I DONT move as I soon as I move it drops and if I am using a Travel power it will also drop so fast that it will stutter making the FPS feel EVEN lower. :mad:

I noticed the person above me is using 4 gig of ram with a similiar setup and is getting ALOT more fps than me
I have 4 gig however my 32bit OS restricts this of course. Perhaps if I remove one stick to make it 2gig my FPS will improve??

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Dell XPS M1530 (laptop)
2.2ghz dual core
4gb System Ram
NVIDIA 8600M GT 256mb
Windows XP

With UI - 25-30fps
Without UI - 45-50fps

I expected better performance from this laptop.

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Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 5600+ 2.8gHz
4 GB ram
Vista 32 bit
NVidia 8800 GT OC

Before 25-30 FPS

After shutting off UI, 40-42 FPS

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Intel p4 3.6
Nvidia 9800 GT 1gb (190.38 drivers)
2gig ram
win xp sp3

Yeah I know my CPU is underpowered. Thing is, since I got the 9800 GT I've been able to max out all of my other games with no problems. Far Cry 2, Prototype, Fear 2, Fallout 3 and several others all run like a dream. Have also tried some other MMOs recently, ****, Huxley beta and LotRO have run great with this setup. Not so with Champions.

20-30 fps with UI
50-60 without

But it will still drop down into the single digits as soon as I start running around or encounter more then a couple other players. And thats with the UI on or off settings min or max. Also I seem to get slightly worse performance with the 190.62 drivers so I rolled back to 38s. Have also tried all of the tricks mentioned in the beta forums before they were wiped. Forcing high settings in Nvidia Control Panel, disabling PhysX etc.

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My Spec:
E8400 " 3ghz
BFG 9800GTX+ OC2
3 Gig of ram
Windows XP 32bit

Video Settings--- With UI----Without UI
Min ----------------- 20-50--- 20-100
Low-----------------15-50-----15-70
Rec-----------------10-25-----10-25
High----------------1-20-------1-20

This is the FPS I generally get.
My Fps stay at the higher end if I DONT move as I soon as I move it drops and if I am using a Travel power it will also drop so fast that it will stutter making the FPS feel EVEN lower.

I'm getting almost exactly these numbers.

* CPU : Intel Core 2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz
* Video Card : Dual NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GT
* RAM : 4GB
* Is there a noticeable difference when you turn the UI off? No.

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Hey all, I'm in particularly interested in UI performance. If you are in game (not sure if the shard is up right now), please try the following....

Vista 32bit
Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4 Ghz
2 Gig RAM
Nvidia Quandro FX 570M

With UI 19-22 FPS

No UI 34-36 FPS

Consistently I get a bump of 10-15 FPS with the UI disabled. Please look into finding a solution to this.

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CPU : 3.2 Gigahertz Single Core Celeron
Video Card : Geforce 8600 GT with 256 RAM
RAM : 2 Gigs
Is there a noticeable difference when you turn the UI off? : Go from 5-10 FPS to 20-30, when staring at the floor. It still degenerates into a slideshow if I attempt to move with travel powers on.

(Just to also point out, also running on absolute minimum settings.)

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When I'm standing around removing the UI adds a good 25fps. When the game is working hard, for example when using a travel power, it seems to make less of a difference. In very busy areas I'll get a framerate of less than 10 regardless of whether the UI is on or off.

CPU: X6800 2.93Ghz
Video: BFG 8800 GTS 0C2
Ram: 4Gb

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Here's my stats on the machine I've done most of my playing on:

CPU: AMD Athlon 4000+, 2.4 GHz
RAM: 2 GB
Video: GeForce 9600GT

I'm running the game at the "recommended" setting. In areas of high traffic I'm lucky if I get single-digit framerates. If I'm just standing there I get *maybe* 12 FPS. Moving around is usually around 8-10 FPS. Knocking off the UI bumped that slightly, by maybe 5 FPS, but still not enough to make everything run smoothly.

I'm also getting tears in the geometry of the landscape, locations where the floor doesn't seem to exist for a good chunk of time (until the redraw catches up with it), and occasional rubberbanding. Most of these things I chalked up to being in Beta, but at Launch they're somewhat ridiculous problems to be having. I'm going to stick things out, but if these problems persist I have a feeling Cryptic is going to have a lot of off-the-shelf purchasers screaming for refunds...

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And what if we are experiencing rubberbanding?

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Here's my stats on the machine I've done most of my playing on:

CPU: AMD Athlon 4000+, 2.4 GHz
RAM: 2 GB
Video: GeForce 9600GT

I'm running the game at the "recommended" setting. In areas of high traffic I'm lucky if I get single-digit framerates. If I'm just standing there I get *maybe* 12 FPS. Moving around is usually around 8-10 FPS. Knocking off the UI bumped that slightly, by maybe 5 FPS, but still not enough to make everything run smoothly.

I'm also getting tears in the geometry of the landscape, locations where the floor doesn't seem to exist for a good chunk of time (until the redraw catches up with it), and occasional rubberbanding. Most of these things I chalked up to being in Beta, but at Launch they're somewhat ridiculous problems to be having. I'm going to stick things out, but if these problems persist I have a feeling Cryptic is going to have a lot of off-the-shelf purchasers screaming for refunds...

I have a very similar system, and we are just above the minimum specs and I have exactly the same issues. I pre-ordered the game and can't stand to play it. I will NOT be picking up my two copies due to this terrible performance. I wasted my pre-order money and I am highly upset. I have played every single MMO since Everquest, and I was looking forward to this one more than any other. Very disappointing. I missed out on all the pre-order benefits and lost some money. I just want to play without jerking around with terrible frame rates. Running directly into piles of mobs because I can't control my character through the chopping. Breaks my heart. They should have pushed back the release a bit.......

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My system:
Windows XP 32-bit
AMD Athlon Dual Core 4600+
GeForce 9500 GT (1GB)
4 gigs of ram (effectively 3.2G due to 32-bit OS)
Framerate from enabling and disabling UI just changes by 3 to 2 points
Recommended Settings enabled on graphics brings for me an average 19.5 fps

only goes below 12.5 on crouded areas like the powerhouse... but still at this point looks very playable.

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I have a very similar system, and we are just above the minimum specs and I have exactly the same issues. I pre-ordered the game and can't stand to play it. I will NOT be picking up my two copies due to this terrible performance. I wasted my pre-order money and I am highly upset. I have played every single MMO since Everquest, and I was looking forward to this one more than any other. Very disappointing. I missed out on all the pre-order benefits and lost some money. I just want to play without jerking around with terrible frame rates. Running directly into piles of mobs because I can't control my character through the chopping. Breaks my heart. They should have pushed back the release a bit.......

i have just a little more specs than you both and meaning that 2 gigs more of ram and maybe a 1 level above processor model... (the 4600)i dont really have any problems at all... i admit im kinda picky and just to be able to play at top performance and higest settings im getting this tower upgraded to an 8GB the most current/and also afordable) ATI video card + a Phenom Quad AMD processor followed by an MSI or ASUS mainboard. This "Step Up" might cost me 800 Bucks.... but trust me this PC im runing is dual LCD and im sometimes playing City of Heroes in one screen and Champions Online in the other (trough the same computer) with no less than 14fps on Champions Online.

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Also having poor performance, 20-30 fps ouside with medium-low settings. [world and terrain sliders set at minimum]. DIsabling the UI had minimal impact, as did changing the resolution. Things go downhill when I actually start playing :o(

Duo e6700 2.66 GHz
2 GB RAM
GTX 260 [896 MB]

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Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz
Memory (RAM) 6.00 GB
Graphics NVIDIA GeForce GTX 285
Gaming graphics 3070 MB
Vista 64 Ultimate

The framerate does improve with the UI disabled.

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pentuim D 3.6 dual core intel
2 gig ram
XP 32-bit
8800gts640

i gain 10-15 FPS by turning off the UI , game is so much better to play with the UI off :( . i'm hoping they can fix this quick

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AMD Phenom X3 8450
ATI Radeon HD 4850 512mb
2 Gb DDR2 800

Running at 1440x900 res
Settings lower than reccomended

20-35 fps average
38-57 with UI off.

Optimize that damn ui. :D

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My specs:

CPU: Intel E8400 Core2 Duo 3.0 GHz
RAM: 4 GB
Video: NVidia GeForce 285 x2 in SLI Mode
OS: Windows Vista

Performance is TERRIBLE in populated areas. With the UI on, framerates fluctuate between 10 and 15 FPS, with the UI off, between 12 and 20 FPS. In both cases, this is simply from fling in a circle in the Canada Base Area.

As a side note, Task Manager's performance monitor shows the game taking up 100% of CPU and about 30% of RAM virtually all the time. Clearly, the game and video code is non-optimized and CPU bound. I certainly hope the launch build will perform better than this, there have been numerous times when I've been plagued by performance so bad that it has gotten me killed.

Please prioritize performance enhancement optimizations above all other issues. Game balance is irrelevant when your game isn't actually playable.

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Hey everyone,

If you're still experiencing performance issues (that is, slow framerates, NOT rubberbanding), try turning off your UI and see if that improves your performance.

To turn off your UI: Alt+F12
To check your FPS before and after: /showfps 1 (/showfps 0 to turn this off)

Post in this thread with your system specs, specifically:

CPU
Video Card
RAM
Is there a noticeable difference when you turn the UI off?


Thanks!
Daeke

For the record, I know my computer sucks, but is still above min reqs.

Intel Celeron D CPU 3.20GHz
NVIDIA GeForce 7900 GTS
2GBs

And no... there is no difference. I was between 1 and 3 fps before I turned it off and I went to between 3 and 5 fps after. That is not a noticeable difference to me.

I hope you guys figure this out soon...

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Intel Pentium D 820 Smithfield 2.8GHz LGA 775 95W
Radeon HD 4850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP
PQI TURBO 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 533 (PC2 4200) Dual Channel Kit
(For some reason the RAM is running at a higher speed of 333.5 and is labeled as PC2-6400 so I'm thinking the order was mixed up with a better one back when I bought it.)
Didn't get a chance to try turning the UI off.

My CPU is obviously bottle necking my system but I was still getting abysmal framerate. Out of combat and traveling my FPS fluctuated between 10-20, in combat it was anywhere from 1-9. The ingame video modifications didn't do a lick of good either, I had all settings set to minimum as well as half resolution which looked fuzzier than a brand new teddy bear to put it nicely and the frame rate never once made it past 25 even while idling. Most adjustments saw a 1 or 2 fps increase. During closed beta I wasn't running /showfps 1 but the frame rate was at least 15 or above at all times since it didn't directly impede my gameplay.

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AMD Athlon64 x2 6000+ Dual Core CPU
Asus ATi Radeon HD3870X2 - 1024MB
2 Gb DDR2 800
Windows Vista 32-bit

My framerate usually ranges between 15-25, but often dips to 10 in high-pop areas. Occasionally it may go as high as 35.

For some reason I have never been able to get CCC to install on my system so I'm unable to try out many of the tweaks listed on the forum (Ati-tray tool works, but corrupts my graphics completely within Champions). This means I have been at the mercy of the ingame settings, but I have noticed something interesting. While turning off settings like Ambient occlusion or shadows gains me 1 or 2 fps my biggest FPSboost came from MAXING out my AA settings. The difference between AA off and AA at 8x is a good 5-10 fps on average MORE. :confused:

Strange, but the game does seem to have an unusual way of handling AA - it seems only certain objects are affected by it.

And like many others turning off the UI gains me about 5-10 FPS.

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•CPU - Intel Core2 Quad 6600

•Video Card - BFG nVidia GeForce 8800 GTS 512 OC

•RAM - 2 Gigs OCZ DDR2 800 DC

•Is there a noticeable difference when you turn the UI off? - Yes ( about 10-15 FPS )

*Windows XP Home SP3 32 bit
*EVGA nForce 780i Motherboard

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3.4Ghz P4D
3GB DDR
9600GT 1GB

Average 18-20 while moving/fighting dropping to 15ish at times, with UI on.
Up to 25-40 with UI off.

At one point in the middle of the desert I found that with my UI OFF I could actually hit 80 FPS+ while moving, was rather incredible.

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CPU - Intel Core2 Quad 6600

•Video Card - BFG nVidia GTX260 896 OC

•RAM - 2 Gigs OCZ DDR2 800 DC

•Is there a noticeable difference when you turn the UI off? - Yes ( about 10-15 FPS )

just a note tho if i minimize/close the chat window at the bottom it also increases my fps by around 10fps

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CPU: AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 2.4 ghz
RAM: 2.75 gigs
Video Card: nVidia GeForce 8800 GTX
OS: Windows XP SP3 (32 bit)

Turning the UI off does not seem to help much, only 2 fps increase or so. I should note that I only tried this in Canada.

Additional notes:

I average 20-30 fps in open areas. At worst, in populated cities i'll get around 15 or less. It's pretty bad. Overall I expect much better performance in the future when Cryptic finds and fixes what is causing these issues. The games not unplayable, but it's still pretty bad.

Just to give a little perspective, the following games I own or have played run at above 40 fps at max settings:: Call of Duty 4, Half Life 2, Age of Conan, Everquest 2, Left 4 Dead, and probably more I could think of. I realize this is a different engine but experience has led me to expect much better performance from a game that is not nearly as graphic intensive as the previously meantioned titles.

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Intel Core2Duo E6600 2.4Ghz
2x2GB OCZ Titanium 800Mhz
X-Fi ExtremeMusic
nVidia 8800GT 512MB

Windows 7 Ultimate x64

Average framerate at 1680*1050 with 2xAA and 8xAF: 16 - 25 FPS
Significant increase in FPS when I disable the UI: 10 FPS

Somethings wron gwith the UI, they really need to look at that

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HP dv2941se laptop

Athlon 64 x2 1.90ghz
4 gig ram
nvidia mcp67m
250 gig sata hd
windows vista home premium 64bit

I'm getting right at 1-2 frames per sec. No noticable difference when I turn off the UI.

Settings set to speed at the moment, so everything is turned off or all the way down.

The client keeps telling me my video drivers are out of date, but I checked HP and Nvidia sites and I do h ave the current drivers.

Something odd I noticed is that when I logout of CO, I get a warning box telling me the nvidia driver has crashed and stopped responding, then it gives another popup and tells me that the driver has recovered.

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My stystem:
Vista 32 bit
AMD phenom 9650 quad 2.30ghz
4g ram
Radeon HD 4550


Im having a hard time playing this game and i really like it ,but my fps is dreadful, currently i tried setting it on minimum at 1024*768 i think its the lowest i can get, when im standing still in the spawn zone in the desert nothing going on except rotor blades from the chopper i get around 20-30 fps with ui turned off i bangs up to 50-60 fps. when i try running it on recommended still at 1024*768, standing still at the same spot, my fps never goes from red, and when i try using travel powers(currently Superspeed) down stairs or running it drops to about 5-15, and even on lowest settings i get fps spikes using superspeed,guess i have to roll a toon without that travel power

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AMD Phenom 9150 Quad-Core
4 gig ram
Nvidia Geforce 6150SE nForce 430

I know its not the best pc in the world, but I can run COX full graphics with no problems at all. my FPS with Champions is average 6-7 and makes for a really bad experiance. Hope they fix this soon. :mad:

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My specs:


Please prioritize performance enhancement optimizations above all other issues. Game balance is irrelevant when your game isn't actually playable.

He said it best.

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Haven't read the whole thread, but I noticed that if you just login the difference between UI on or OFF is minimal, however after playing for awhile the difference can be as much as twice the framerate which is a rather big difference.

Seems to be some kind of resource leak...

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cpu: intel core2 duo p8400 2.27 GHz
gpu: Nvidia geforce 9800 gts 1024 video ram
ram: 4 gigs


5-15 with ui on 25-35 fps without it but it still fluctuates in crowded areas
the games not unplayable but it might as well be because of the frustration travel powers are pretty much unusable because the game looks like a slide show when i turn on superjump forget about everything else and fix this issue.

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If you're having issues running the game, and reading a lot of your spec's for your computer. You NEED to upgrade. There isn't much the tech's can do for you, if the problem is in your house. I don't experience any issues other than Blue screen of death, but that's my computer, not an issue the Cryptic team can do. Just a thought, but upgrade even if the graphics look simple, they're layered. Keep that in mind when wondering about frame rates.

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If you're having issues running the game, and reading a lot of your spec's for your computer. You NEED to upgrade. There isn't much the tech's can do for you, if the problem is in your house. I don't experience any issues other than Blue screen of death, but that's my computer, not an issue the Cryptic team can do. Just a thought, but upgrade even if the graphics look simple, they're layered. Keep that in mind when wondering about frame rates.

Although a lot of systems could use an upgrade, there definitely is a problem in the code, the game shouldn't get slower the longer you play and it shouldn't suddenly gain a 50-100% performance by turning of the UI.

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Hey everyone,

If you're still experiencing performance issues (that is, slow framerates, NOT rubberbanding), try turning off your UI and see if that improves your performance.

To turn off your UI: Alt+F12
To check your FPS before and after: /showfps 1 (/showfps 0 to turn this off)

Post in this thread with your system specs, specifically:

CPU
Video Card
RAM
Is there a noticeable difference when you turn the UI off?


Thanks!
Daeke

Asus notebook - n80Vb series
nvidia GeForce 9300 gs 512 mb
intel core 2 duo cpu t6400
memory (ram) 4 gb
64 bit operating system


While having the lighting option turned to high my frame rate drops sevearly in comparison to having it on low, but when it is turned on low all the characters in the game become smooth and metalic looking. I could have the graphics running on max and have a great frame rate as long as this setting is on low, but on the flip side when i turn the lighting on high, even though all my graphics levels are turned down i still drasticly lose out on fps. especialy while other players are about. I dont understand how lighting affects the characters texture so drasticly, anyone having this same issue? (sorry for any spelling errors)

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Theres alot of problems with the UI.. my system can run the game fine as its better than all of the specs, so why is the UI causing frame rate loss at such an extreme?

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If you're having issues running the game, and reading a lot of your spec's for your computer. You NEED to upgrade. There isn't much the tech's can do for you, if the problem is in your house. I don't experience any issues other than Blue screen of death, but that's my computer, not an issue the Cryptic team can do. Just a thought, but upgrade even if the graphics look simple, they're layered. Keep that in mind when wondering about frame rates.

Keep in mind that your wrong, there is something wrong with the game and A LOT of people are having this issue and Cryptic and Nvidia are both looking into it and Cryptic knows there is a problem with the UI and the game not using the GPU like it's suppose to. I by no means need to upgrade and I'm in the same boat with the rest of them.

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I suppose I should post here since I'm having FPS issues on a machine that should be able to run this game at least close to it's max settings without breaking a sweat.

My computer:

CPU: AMD Phenom II 940 Black Edition 3.0GHz
VGA: XFX Nvidia 9800GTX
RAM: 4 Gigs (2x2) OCZ Reaper 1066MHz DDR2
Sound: Creative Soundblaster X-Fi Titanium
Mobo: MSI K9A2 Platinum
OS: Windows XP64

I get between 15 and 30 FPS, usually around 20-25, on recommended settings. Turning off the UI yields no difference in FPS at all.

Turning the lighting on low, however, causes the FPS to jump up to anywhere between 52 to 60 (the VSync cap). It also takes a truckload of definition out of the game, so I'd rather leave it on if at all possible.

A few points of notice:

My CPU rarely ever breaks 60% usage. Unless I'm traveling across the open world it tends to hover between 40 and 50%, sometimes a little higher in areas with alot of detail. I'd give you my GPU usage, but Nvidia cards don't have a load monitor on their GPUs.

I've tried forcing the game to put anti aliasing load on the GPU, and as far as I can tell it makes no difference in CPU usage, so either the game is ignoring the settings I forced for it in the NVidia control panel, or the game has been using my GPU for that the whole time.

Aside from the lighting setting, most of the other settings have a relatively minimal impact on performance. If I max everything out, I see between a 0 and 10 FPS difference from the "recommended" settings. I find this funny since one of the highlights of the 9800GTX over the 8800GTX was that it handled lighting and shadows better, yet people with 8000 series cards are getting better performance with the lighting on high than I am.

Is there any test data or anything I can gather to help you guys narrow down this problem?

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If by turning off the UI (I haven't tried it yet), you mean the interface that shows you power/health/actionbars etc., how can that possibly qualify as a solution? While I'm sure that you could argue to some degree that you don't need the UI to play the game all the time, why on Earth would you want to play it with the UI turned off?

Someone please enlighten me.

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If by turning off the UI (I haven't tried it yet), you mean the interface that shows you power/health/actionbars etc., how can that possibly qualify as a solution? While I'm sure that you could argue to some degree that you don't need the UI to play the game all the time, why on Earth would you want to play it with the UI turned off?

Someone please enlighten me.

It's not a solution. They are asking people to try it to see what kind of difference it makes.

But it's not the only problem, alot of people are having issues with anti-aliasing and other stuff being loaded to the CPU, and problems with the lighting causing FPS drops on rigs that shouldn't have a problem with it. I'm going to do a bit more testing later to see exactly what kind of stuff causes a CPU usage jump, with lighting on low and high, to see if those things might be related.

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I have a question, is everyone running DX10? The minimum requirements say DX9c, but what if DX10 is the problem??

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Windows XP can't use DX 10, so the answer would be no to that with all the XP people (myself included) who are having some frame rate issues.

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Windows XP can't use DX 10, so the answer would be no to that with all the XP people (myself included) who are having some frame rate issues.

what he says

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Anyone else having major problems in places with lighting effects? I have 9800gt nvidia and quad CPU 3gb RAM + MINIMAL settings and still 20 fps with lag...

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Windows XP can't use DX 10, so the answer would be no to that with all the XP people (myself included) who are having some frame rate issues.

I give myself a duh, just woke up (third shift) and brain isn't putting all the pieces together yet.

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Hey all, I'm in particularly interested in UI performance. If you are in game (not sure if the shard is up right now), please try the following.
Slide the video option slider down to the fastest settings (which will be ugly-- that's OK, this is for diagnosis of the problem).
/showfps
Have your character look at the ground
wait ten seconds
write down the fps and ms/frame (all numbers shown in the upper right)
Hit Alt+F12
wait ten seconds
write down the fps and ms/frame (all numbers shown in the upper right)
Post with your graphics and computer stats like you have been.

This will be HUGELY helpful. I thank all of you for giving us a hand with this.

Ingame graphics set to minimum.

UI OFF: 59.95 (16.7m/fm) - fairly steady
UI ON: 52-58 (16.9-18.1m/fm) - varied up and down wildly

OS: Win 7 RC1
CPU: Intel E8400 (not overclocked)
RAM: 8 GB
GPU: EVGA GTX 260 (think it's factory overclocked a tad)
MOBO: Gigabyte GA-X48-DS4

All the latest drivers/updates.

Sidenote: When running around with the same graphics settings as above the FPS difference between UI ON and UI OFF was huge. With UI ON I would get between 20 and 40 FPS LESS than when UI was OFF.

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Intel Pentium 4 CPU 2.80 GHz (Dual Core)
ATI Radeon HD 4670 (512)
4.0GB RAM (though running 32-bit Vista)
I notice slight increases when turing off the UI. With the UI on it bounces between 1.9-10 and with it off the bounces between 10-13. Id have to say, its not very enjoyable to play. There seems to be a 2-5 second delay after I hit the space bar, for an example. Making for "fast-paced gaming" not to realistic.

I bought this graphics card thinking it would improve my performance, as I had a ATI Radeon 2600 PRO, and I expericance the same performance. Maybe Im just to use to playing CoH:)

Hope you all find a fix soon, so I can enjoy the game!

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Anyone else having major problems in places with lighting effects? I have 9800gt nvidia and quad CPU 3gb RAM + MINIMAL settings and still 20 fps with lag...

only when I have ambient occlusion also on, but I turned that off it takes to much power and barely noticeable unless you're standing still admiring the view.

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im not seeing a very big improvement to the fps with ui off. considering i can usually play fallout 3 at near max setting and still maintain a good 30 to 60fps.
Windows XP Home Edition
CPU=AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5000+
Video Card=ATI Radeon HD 4600 Series 512mb ddr3
RAM=4gig of A-DATA DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel
sound card=C-Media PCI Audio

reccomended no anti alias at 1024x768 rez
ui on-standing 30fps moving18
ui off-standing 35fps moving 26

hope this info helps

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CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E8400
Video: Radeon HD 4850 512MB
RAM: 8 GB
Windows 7 (64-bit)
Running the game at 1920x1200.

When I turn the UI off, I notice a major improvment. I get an increase of about 10-20 FPS.

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This is weird !!

My friend is having same problem as all of you !!

But me !! I Run ALL on MAX at 1920 x 1200 and run the game on 50+ fps........ON A LAPTOP !! :D

My laptop is:
dell m1730
CPU: T9300 dual 2.5~ ghz
GPU: 2 x Nvidia 9800m GT in SLI
RAM: 4Gb

Something is wrong with this game for sure !!

My friend runs AOC on mid lvl, but he cant run this game at all....3-5 fps
his specs are:
2.1ghz cpu, Nvidia 8500gt (1gb ram), 2 GB ram

i know his specs are not great, but still ?? come on !! :confused:

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Has anyone thought about turning off the system chat messages?

I don't have any problems but it might be worth a try for those of you that do.

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CPU: Intel Core2Quad Q6700 @ 2.66GHz
Video: Nvidia Geforce GTX 285 @ 680Mhz
Memory: 4 GB Corsair Dominator at 1066MHz
OS: Windows Vista Home Premium SP2 x64

While flying over Millennium City in Westside
FPS with UI on: 35
FPS Without UI: 54

Ill say it's a huge ****ing difference.
Hopefully this will help you work out the problem.

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How is disabling the UI a fix?

I can't really play the game with the UI off.

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Has anyone thought about turning off the system chat messages?

I don't have any problems but it might be worth a try for those of you that do.

I tried that earlier today; for a little while I thought it helped, but soon enough I was back down to 1-2 FPS.

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Windows XP can't use DX 10, so the answer would be no to that with all the XP people (myself included) who are having some frame rate issues.

Not true, you can hack XP to run DX10, however it's iffy compatibility at best. Mine is done in such a way, not sure if it is effecting any performance though.

PC Stats:

CPU: 2.1ghz Intel 2 Core Duo
GPU: 8800 GTS 512mb
RAM: OCZ 4 GB (2x1024MB)
OS: XP, DX10 (hacked)


In Desert:

Framerate with UI: 20-35 Avg Fps, as low as 10 with Travel.
Framerate w/o UI: 40-80 Avg Fps, as low as 25 with Travel.


HUGE, HUGE, huge, difference. A UI shouldn't be taking that much processing power. I notice when flicking it on and off the powersets fold out kinda like cards, lots of things like that should be disabled, just stationary pictures would do fine. Don't need anything so integrated.

Fix please, for now I've mapped the Hide UI to my side mouse button. Can flick it on and off on the fly now, while traveling or fighting non-consequential mobs.

PS. Please alphabetize the drop downs in character creation.

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Alienware M17x
Intel QX9300 Quad Core
2 x nVidia 280M (2x1Gb) SLI running 186.81 WHQL drivers
8Gb RAM
Vista Ultimate 64-bit

Note: Whist running CPUID - I noticed that only ONE of the 280Ms was getting hot, indicating that SLI was not working for Champions (other games it is fine). Is this a function of the Game or Driver code?

Great work Cryptic - the game is amazing!

Regards

Trelawney

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CPU: AMD 64 X2 5000 Duo-Core
Video: NVideo 9800 GT 512 MB
RAM: 4GB
Windows XP 32bit SP2

Game was working fine last night, but loading it up today there was constant lag even with the UI turned off.

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I still have FPS issues, I have had FPS issues since CB. I understand the game just launched and they are still working out the kinks, but for the love of everything that's holy I can barely move.

By all means I am not complaining, whining, throwing myself on the ground throwing a temper tantrum. I have played plenty of MMO's that have had terrible launches, and over all this was a good launch for most people. I just want to join the majority and be able to play.

Updated news on my gaming experience:
1)Settings on "Recommended" UI on: 1-10 FPS avg.
Moving: 1-5, Stationary 5-10, Looking at the ground: 5-10
2)Settings on "Recommended" UI off: 5-10
Moving: 3-7 FPS, Stationary: 5-10, looking at the ground usually around 10

1)Settings on "Minimum" UI on: 5-15 FPS
Moving: 3-8, Stationary: 5-12, Looking at ground: 10-15
2)Settings on "Minimum" UI off: 5-20 FPS
Moving: 3-10, Stationary: 5-15, Looking at the ground: 10-20

I realize I have a Min to a little over Min spec meeting computer. I understand that means that I will have to sacrafice graphic settings to be able to play this game. I am alright with that, I understand that. What I don't understand is not being able to move in the game on recommended or Minimum settings, and if I am able to move the game FPS flops to 1-5 range. At this point the game is unplayable. I should be able to put the graphics on Minimum and move fluidly throughout the game.

Spec:
2.8 ghz pentium D processor
Nvidia Geforce 7800 GT (256mb)
2 Gig Ram
Windows XP (32)
5-10 MB/s cable connection
Realtek High Def Sound card
Cable connection: Comcast
( here is a site with what it comes with standard: http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/d...0503720&dlc=en, though obviously it is not EXACTLY the same. I added RAM, Video card, Power supply)

I have already sent in my profiler twice (11 days ago), with two tickets that are "RESOLVED".

I am not trying to whine or complain, just frustrated and I expect there to be issues with launch. I understand my PC is not ideal for the game, but if I am meeting the Min requirements, exceeding some of them, there is not reason why I should not be able to put my graphic setting to MIN, make sure everything is off or on low, and still have issues where I can barely move.

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Please see my newer performance thread (I have two posts in there right now, please read both). As soon as I figure out how to un-sticky THIS thread I will.

http://forums.champions-online.com/showthread.php?t=51647

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Wow i cant believe that the User interface is causing 20-40FPS decrease on my system

Quad Core at 3.2

Gtx 260 OverClocked (216 Cores)

4gbs ram

Vista 64bit

When the UI is off holy crap my FPS jumps like crazy we are talking 30 fps or more

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intel pentium 4 cpu 2.80hz 2cpus
Radeon hd4350 1 gig
3 gigs of ram
and no it didn't really help much. I am currently in canada.

Ps I hope I did this right not used to using forums ^.^

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CPU:AMD phenom quad core windows vista 64 bit
Graphics Card:NVIDIA GeForce 9500 GS
Difference: There is no difference at all when i turn off ui.
and plz trust me i know this low fps problem is not my comps fault for first 30 min of gameplay i have a solid 50-60 range for fps.And my ram is 8 or 9 GB.

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I found a solution for my terrible FPS issues (15-20 fps)

My system is:
Windows XP sp3
Leadtek PX8800 GTS 640MB (Standard Clocking)
Core 2 Duo E6750
GA-P35-DS3R (F2 Bios)
2GB 1066 Crucial Ballistix

I had no lagging issues or FPS troubles in CB & OB, it wasn't until I updated my NVIDIA drivers that I started having problems. For whatever reason I decided to upgrade to 190.62 (Latest), mistake. I averaged 15 fps looking at the ground.

I did an uninstall on driver and reloaded my tried and true driver the 178.24.

My FPS is 50-60 with UI enabled staring at floor.

Hope this helps folks with NVidia cards and XP.

EDIT: Also, there is a definite "hit" with comic shading enabled. I have Physx enabled, though I've not tested with it disabled yet.

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CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo T7300 2ghz
RAM: 2 GB
GPU: 8600m GT 256mb
OS: Windows 7 Professional

When I disable the UI I can get as much as 20 FPS back while standing still. The FPS boost is a little inconsistent though, much like the regular frame rate.

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CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfsdale 3ghz
RAM: 4 GB
GPU: 8800 GTS 512
OS: Windows Vista Home Premium

No performance difference. HOWEVER, when I disabled screen-space ambient occlusion, my fps jumped from 35fps to 45fps.

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When standing still in a crowded area a significant FPS increase from about 30 to 50 FPS.
However when I started to move again using superjump this crawled to a 10-15 FPS again.

CPU: AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4800+ 2.63 GHz
RAM: 3 GB
GPU: GTX 260
OS: Windows Vista Ultimate SP1

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I guess the performance drops deeper from patch to patch.. wrecks my nerves. FPS drops in the power house, stand still? come on .. where is the point?

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If you fix the UI issues, can we have our travel powers back?

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after turning the UI off i see maybe 1FPS higher than before, my FPS usually stays somewhere between 8 and 15, depending on the area and how mch i'm looking at.

my spcs are:
CPU: AMD Phenom 9750 Quad-Core, 2.4GHz
RAM: 6gigs
GPU: ATI Radeon 4350 HD 1gig
OS: Windows Vista 64-bit Home Edition

My GPU isnt top of the line but my power supply is only 300w so it will have to do, I feel like i should be getting more than 15FPS atleast. My settings are on recommended with a few things turned down

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Intel Dual Core 6600
4gb of RAM
2 ATI Radeon 4850s(512) in Crossfire X
Windows Vista Home Premium 64 bit

I am getting around a 20 - 25 fps difference when I turn off my UI.

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Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 2.66GHz
GeForce 8800 GTS 640mb
2.00 GB RAM
Win XP

20 FPS flying over Ren Center with UI on
30+ FPS flying over Ren Center with UI off

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so is it me or the game my specs are on page 21

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Anyone know if tonight's patch includes the fix for this? All it lists is a change to travel power speed.

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My fps yo-yos from 15-30 when standing still
4-15 when moving or busy

Turning the UI off doesn't make much difference, maybe 5fps... but still in the red.

I'm so glad its not just me because I've just bought a new laptop to play;
Duo CPU P8600 2.4Ghz
4G RAM
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4670
Win Vista

I'm looking forward to getting on to the test shard to see if there are any improvement but I'm not getting the drop down menu.

My husband is getting perfect performance on his desktop, it looks beautiful, I can't wait to play properly! :)

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CPU intel core i7 920
GPU HD 4800 Series
RAM 4gb
OS Vista 64bit

40fps with everything on high.... Unacceptable

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* AMD Athlon 3700+ 2.21Ghz
* Nvidia 8800Gt
* 3GB Ram
* Windows Xp Pro SP 3

I saw no significant difference when turning off the UI. Continually getting 9-15 fps in mildly populated areas and 3-5 fps in very populated areas or when using travel powers. I've tried different Video settings and it runs mildly smoother on the lowest settings.

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Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 2.66 GHz
NVidia GeForce 8800GT
RAM 8 GB
Vista 64
No appreciable difference with U/I on or off


If the lag problem is too many people moving too fast, why is there lag in instanced missions? If the problem is too many people, then just add more shards. I realize that's expensive, but that equipment can be expensed and depreciated. Then it can be resold if the game audience shrinks. Even better, transfer it to Star Trek Online when they are ready for beta testing.

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Before i turn my ui off im hovering between 45.55-55.45 (17.5-20.3m/fm) green, and when it starts lagging up it drops into red numbers showing 20.90-6.09 (173 then down to 33.3m/fm) in red numbers, and it lags like that about every 2 seconds to the point where i just about cant do anything.

Granted it doesnt lag like that all the time. Before the patch on 9/10 i didnt lag like that unless i went into an instance/lair mission.

AMD Athlon 64 X2 dual core 4000+ 2106 mhz 2 cores, 2 logic processors
windows vista home basic (32 bit)
2GB RAM
LTD ASUS M2N-SLI DELUXE ACPI BIOS Revision 0404
NVIDIA 9500 GT 512 MB FX card

This is the only MMO i've ever had a problem lagging, i can even play dawn of war 2 and crysis without a problem, but theres something about this game thats making my junk choke on bad frames. Ive got ALL the graphics turned down as low as possible and any off that can be turned off and still got terribad frames.

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With UI on: 12.2 FPs while standing still. No change with it off.

Intel Core 2 Duo E4700 2.60 Ghz
Windows Vista 32 bit
3 GB Ram
Nvidia 8600 GT

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My FPS doesn't change much, it stays around 30 in MC and dips into the 20's when there's a lot of stuff on screen, no difference with the UI turned off. I probably shouldn't complain though since I hear of people getting lower than 10 FPS. I kinda miss the consistent 60 FPS of WoW but I'm sure this will get better with time.

OS: Windows Vista 64-bit Home

CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) 2 Duo CPU P7450 @ 2.13 GHz

Graphic Card: NVIDIA GeForce 9800M GS

RAM: 4GB DDR

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CPU: Intel quad core 9650 3GHz
Vid: Dual NVIDIA 9500's SLI 1 GByte per card, phsX enabled
OS: Vista 64 Bit
RAM: 8GBytes

In power house, lots of folks and duals going on :-)

No change with Alt+F12


The big bang for the buck for me was turn off Postprocessing and ambient occlusion. Were ambient occlusion nearly doubled my fps from ~15FPS to 30+. Postprocessing gets a few more. These setting where fine before the patch.

Oh yeah turning off the clicky for advanced setting crashes the computer now.

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Vista 32bit
Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4 Ghz
2 Gig RAM
Nvidia Quandro FX 570M

With UI 26-29 FPS

No UI 39-43 FPS

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Hey all

I'm running:

OS - Windows Vista 64bit

CPU - Intel Core 2 6320 @ 1.86GHz 1.87Ghz (although I am upgrading to a Quad Core soon)

Graphics - nVidia GeForce 9800GT 512MB

RAM - 6gig

When I'm playing, on "Low" settings, I'm anywhere between 12-40fps

When I turn the UI off, it can get around 60fps... But I saw it go over 100 for a second earlier tonight...

On "Reccomended" settings, it doesn't seem to get above 20fps... Only get's to about 30 with the UI off...

Edit - All this was done in Millenium City while standing still...