Until Field Report 2/2/12

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Heroes!
Time for another UNTIL Field Report.

December and January have been a little hectic as we worked on several improvements to the early game and a number of features to improve the overall game, but we're not done yet.

We have also been working towards our next update that will see several items from the list make it to Live. Included in that next update is the rather ambitious update to all the items and rewards in the game. I'll be talking about what exactly re-itemizing the game means in a couple weeks.

There has been some good movement on the list and while we have added new features and made improvements to the game we do not have as much movement on the "Closer Look" list as I would like to have seen. Some special attention will be paid to the list by Coldsnapped. He is in charge of making sure the top issues list gets updated and sees weekly movement internally.

You may also notice that some items have dropped down a step in the list. This in part is due to some changes in direction for our next few updates all leading up to a focused effort for 2012.

In the coming weeks, leading up to our next large update, we will be posting dev diaries that explain the changes we are working on in a bit more detail. This will give us a chance to let you know not only what we are doing but also touch on the why's.

As always we look forward to your feedback and we will be keeping a close eye on this thread.
...Enjoy!

Completed and LIVE
Items in this list have moved out of development and test into the LIVE game.

Camera Zoom when zoning
Comic Series 2
Wind Framework
New Mail notification issues
New RenCen Powerhouse: Costume stage w/tailor, dueling area, revamped powers testing area.
Earth Framework: Very earthy stuff! This is a Brick framework.
Auto Teaming, temp teams: Auto teams for open missions (if solo) and optional for groups. These are temp teams that overlay your existing team.
Further improvements to streamline the early game
Infernal review: A review of the Infernal framework that will include new powers and additional AT's
Items not on the list: Remote contacts, Remote training, Improved map and mission tracker


In Test
Items "In test" are being looked at and testing internally and/or on PTS. These are issues, features and fixes that are the closest to release as you can get. Occasionally there will be some items that are in test that are part of a larger release.

Tab targeting fails to target closest enemy.
Alerts (These will be on PTS in February)
Team Duels: Team leaders will be able to challenge a member of another team to a duel.
90's Iron Age Costume Set


A closer look (On Deck)
These are hot topic issues in the Player Community, QA and CS. This list does not represent all the issues we are taking a closer look at, but are issues at the top of our list of things to investigate.

Zone balancing
Zoning or changing instance causes the slow fall for teleport to fail.
Female Average Walk: Arm swing and lower body leg steps are out of sync.
Remote Access: After interacting with the robot, it does not begin moving, preventing completion of the mission.
Escort mission improvements
Malevolent Manifestation: Hold resistance not applied to target every time the hold duration refreshes.
From Bad to Worse perk
Event items are appearing randomly when events are not running
Sea Slug becomes stuck after the first wave of critters.
Cave: Venue: Tropical Venue is no longer available unless Primal Cave hideout is purchased
Players become friendly to both teams after disconnecting or logging out in a PvP match
Trade issues: improving the trade system to better protect from scams
KotH: Victory perk is being credited to the losing team


Up Next!
In Development
These are features we are working on right now. They have made it through the design phase and are being implemented. Items in this section will move to "In Test" once complete.

Player voted Travel Power (Distortion Acrobatics) -possibly, POSSIBLY with non-anime run
Events Calendar: A system that will allow you to see what there is to do in Champs at any time and get right to the action.
Itemization: Improvements and updates to the gear/items you get in the game and how you use them
Item Improvement System: (Was Item Smash/Crafting Improvements): A new way to improve your character and enhance customization
Specialization Trees
Stat updates


On the schedule
These are updates that are next on the list to implement. Some features have a longer development time than others but these are what the team will be looking to move on to soon.

A new group Lair in Westside.
New Zone Events: Large scale, multistage, zone events that offer new encounter opportunities and large group gameplay.
PvE Queues: Each Lair added to the PvE queue list
Epic Lairs: Updates and changes to the existing lairs to add high level gameplay
Lair Boss reviews: Improvements to the Lair Bosses.
Wizards/Fantasy Costume Set
Xp Gifting: Gift some of your experience to your alts or friends.
C-Store Coupons: Items that give you a discount in the c-store.


In Design Discussion!
These items in design discussion are for features that are being considered for an upcoming update. The next step for these topics is to have them added to the schedule. Some of these are smaller, quicker tasks while others are a lot larger and require more to design and implement.

Neighborhood Events: Small open missions focused on Heroic encounters
Nemesis Updates: Any and everything we can do to get you more time with your Nemesis. This includes more frequent encounters and opportunities to fight your nemesis with your fellow heroes. Additionally we are looking to add more minion types and options.
Mini Arc level 32: This may fall in the area of Wells Pass and offer a break from Viper and Manamals
KotH Perks
A new slot for Aura's: Special costume Aura items could be slotted to add an aura to you character. The aura items would range from costume slots like gloves or head to full body auras
Swinging improvements and skins
Costume set preview for the C-Store
Hueshifting improvements to allow further hue shifts for FX attached to costume pieces (Jetpack flames)
New Super Speed run anim
Cat animations and emotes (for players as well)
Hideout additions: Training and Crafting rooms
Premium Free Form character slots (A character slot that has unrestricted power choices and is not subscription bound)


The Future
These are features that we are working towards. Items listed in this section need the most discussion and are subject to the largest change. This list does not represent all the things we want or are planning to do but they are some of the larger things we are planning and working towards.

World Events
New Zone (3-4 Neighborhoods)
Level cap to 45
More Events both small and large
Super group Bases
Guild Improvements (Leveling, Duels)
New Zone (Moon is being discussed)
Level Cap to 50
End Game (Currently looking at Star Guards)
And so much more!!

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Let's take a look at a few of the items on the list that are new or that have seen little forward movement. I won’t have an update section for every Until Field Report but will add one from time to time to give some updates on our progress and try to answer some of your questions.


Team Duels: Team leaders will be able to challenge a member of another team to a duel.
(This feature is in but not turned on. Internal tests and feedback was luke warm to the current implementation and while we want to get these to you, the feature needs a few tweaks. I might be open to turning the feature on for PTS to get your feedback if there is an interest)


PvE Queues: Each Lair added to the PvE queue list
(This item has moved from Test: There is more to be done here. Simply adding the Lairs to a queue didn't seem to be enough)


Xp Gifting: Gift some of your experience to your alts or friends
The current implementation: An item that allows you to put experience in by using it. The item can then be used by another character to have experience granted to them which will then destroy the gift item. The item can be used from the character’s main inventory. -What does it need?- We need to be able to balance the feature and tune it for players across all levels. There are also a few questions that we need to get answered both internally and on PTS when testing begins.


C-Store Coupons: Items that give you a discount in the c-store
Originally thought to be simple drops in the world for flat amounts we would like to expand a little to include specific items. This feature also requires a UI solution for the store that will not be complete for a little bit.


New Zone Events: Large scale, multistage, zone events that offer new encounter opportunities and large group gameplay
Right now we are looking at building a multistage invasion of Millennium City and a large scale attack on Canada


Item Improvement System: (Was Item Smash/Crafting Improvements): A new way to improve your character and enhance customization
Still a little too early to go into any detail. Ame will be talking about this in a dev diary in the coming weeks


Specialization Trees
Ame is working on a system for the further advancement of your Hero. More information about this feature will be available in an upcoming dev diary


There is more that I could post here but I’ll leave some room to answer some questions about any of the additions or changes in this Report.

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Team Duels: Team leaders will be able to challenge a member of another team to a duel.(This feature is in but not turned on. Internal tests and feedback was luke warm to the current implementation and while we want to get these to you, the feature needs a few tweaks. I might be open to turning the feature on for PTS to get your feedback if there is an interest)
Please. Also descriptions of what specific things are seen as being problems, I don't recall negative feedback, there just wasn't a lot to say beyond "looks like it mostly works".

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Premium Free Form character slots (A character slot that has unrestricted power choices and is not subscription bound)

WHY? This is your MAIN reason to subscribing. PERIOD. You offer this, and just like a problem that STO has, there's pretty much absolutely NO reason to keep subscribing to your game.

This is a terrible, TERRIBLE idea. There's a reason why all the threads that have mentioned this in the past have blown up, and EXACTLY why this thread will blow up too.

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Looking forward to anything about the Crafting/Item changes that are coming and especially if any of this applies to the needed changes to the CTPs.

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While I'm not as...passionate...as Robert is there, I have to admit I don't understand the motivation behind selling freeform slots.

Well, I take that back. I do understand the motivation, it's just that it's rather annoyingly obvious as to what it is.

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To team duels,
The feature works and works well, the feedback from internal testing would like to have it be more than it is.
The UI, for instance, is bare and while I like it that way, playtest feedback wanted to see more detail in the player status. Players (Internal) wanted more info about who was in the invite list for the duel and what there status was. Some requests were to add information to player status in the duel UI so the team knew who as hurt or status affected. THe largest shock was that there was a 50/50 split on players who wanted a free zone battle vs. those who wanted a large dome. I was on the full zone side so I could play zone wide hide and seek or potentially RP an open PVP environment and have guild rivalries.

I have confidence we will get it hammered out once it's on PTS

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Some really awesome updates in there. Thanks for sharing!

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Well after reading this update to the UNTIL Report I can notice a few things.

I soooo noticed that the new zone and the lvl 45 cap are still on the distant future... which its not a bad thing considering that you are going to revamp core mechanics soon.

I caaan't wait to see what is this item improvement system... and more important, what its gonna happen to the CTP.

Yaaay!! for distortion acro... and I am intrigued of what they are gonna be in the end =p... also if the new animation will happen... I guess we will know in 3 weeks.

Alerts this month for test!? YES!.

Freeform slots for silvers.... why not?.... I was silver for 10 months, and I understand the motivation behind this. Its not like I feel my gold subscription wasted to be honest... there's still incentives for me, like all the gold costume pieces, every slot is freeform, hue changes to my powers, etc. Also I learned from experience... its WAAAAAAY cheaper to become gold than being silver and pay for character slots and archetypes. Honestly I don't see harm in here.

Specialization trees..... TEASE... TEASE... TEASE... lol... hope info about that comes soon.

Overall, a good report, thanks Robo!

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To Freeform slots.
This is something we are discussing internally. Part of this report is to let you know what we are working on and thinking about. A feature or addition in this list has a good chance of making it live but not everything will.
At times items on the list might not be what you want to see or even like but that is why the Until Field Report is posted. Post your feedback and let us know how you feel about what you see in the report.

Edit: I have updated the In discussion section to include the topic of Freeform slots.

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Thanks for the update Robobo.

If possible could you please explain in theory (or by example) the difference between an 'Alert', a 'Neighbourhood Event' and a 'World Event' (apart from their obvious descriptions).

Also is a 3-4 neighbourhood zone likely to be bigger or smaller than Vibora Bay and why was that size necessarily chosen?.

Looking forward to seeing the update and Alerts hopefully by Feb.

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In Test
Items "In test" are being looked at and testing internally and/or on PTS. These are issues, features and fixes that are the closest to release as you can get. Occasionally there will be some items that are in test that are part of a larger release.

Tab targeting fails to target closest enemy.
90's Iron Age Costume Set


Up Next!
In Development
These are features we are working on right now. They have made it through the design phase and are being implemented. Items in this section will move to "In Test" once complete.

Player voted Travel Power (Distortion Acrobatics) -possibly, POSSIBLY with non-anime run
Itemization: Improvements and updates to the gear/items you get in the game and how you use them


Good stuff! I likes.

Up Next!
In Development
These are features we are working on right now. They have made it through the design phase and are being implemented. Items in this section will move to "In Test" once complete.

Premium Free Form character slots (A character slot that has unrestricted power choices and is not subscription bound)


O.o

Wait. WHAT?!!?

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If possible could you please explain in theory (or by example) the difference between an 'Alert', a 'Neighbourhood Event' and a 'World Event' (apart from their obvious descriptions).




This.... I am still confused on the difference between "open missions" and "alerts" myself.

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Freeform slot:

I want to tell you this before the thread catches on fire.

A freeform slot is a 2-for-1 by the sound of it. Can you consider awarding a character slot upon the purchase of a new archetype should this come to fruition?

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Here are the general differences between Alerts, Neighborhood Events, Zone Events and World Events.
Alerts
An Alert is an instanced 5 man mission/map focused on the smack down of a baddie that is actively doing something classically villainous. These are fast, and all sorts of fun. The locations or maps are usually outdoor instances of known locations like MIL City Center or VIB Train Station.

Neighborhood Events (or Heroic Events)
These are small to medium scale open missions that allow a hero to really shine. These open missions are focused on allowing the hero to help citizens in distress, stop a mugging, put out a fire and so on... A hero that passes up one of these events might not be that heroic =/

Zone Events
These are large scale events similar to Bloodmoon or the End of Beta event that may require large teams. These usually have multiple locations or stages and have big baddies to dispatch.

World Events
Something a bit new but something we are working on. The best way to put it is, an event that happens in every zone and every instance of those zones that has every hero working towards a single or group of goals. It's big....

Hope that helps...

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Purchasable ff slot is an excellent idea that I hope makes it into the game. I'm assuming that means you guys are looking into sub-gated playable pve content as the new carrot for gold status? Y/N!?!?!?

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In Test [...snip...]


90's Iron Age Costume Set


Uhmm, what's a 90's Iron Age Costume Set? Is this a typo for the 90's Hero costume set, or is there a new Iron Age (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Age) costume set?

A closer look (On Deck)

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Malevolent Manifestation: Hold resistance not applied to target every time the hold duration refreshes.


*braces for the impending nerf of the last useful hold, but accepts it was inevitable* I just hope Holds in general get a review somewhere down the line to be made more useful.

Up Next!


Player voted Travel Power (Distortion Acrobatics) -possibly, POSSIBLY with non-anime run


Called this! (but so did everyone else :p)


Specialization Trees


What are these? Sounds like more customization options... and interesting.

In Design Discussion!

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Lots of interesting stuff in this section, particularly: new slot for Aura's and Swinging improvements and skins. Lots of people have been waiting for a New Super Speed run animation, as well. Also...


Neighborhood Events: Small open missions focused on Heroic encounters


I would like to know more about these. Are kinda like the concept of Radio Missions in CoX, but more CO-ish?

...and...


Premium Free Form character slots (A character slot that has unrestricted power choices and is not subscription bound)

Been seeing this one coming for a while now. I just hope its done in such a way as to not destroy the value or subs, particularly LTS's.

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Looking forward to the team duels being brought back. That was something I was looking forward to since they were first mentioned.

The new lair in West Side though. What level range will that be first introduced to?

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Neighborhood Events (or Heroic Events)
These are small to medium scale open missions that allow a hero to really shine. These open missions are focused on allowing the hero to help citizens in distress, stop a mugging, put out a fire and so on... A hero that passes up one of these events might not be that heroic =/

Ahh, missed this on the rush to post. Not what I originally though, but still a nice concept.

Zone Events
These are large scale events similar to Bloodmoon or the End of Beta event that may require large teams. These usually have multiple locations or stages and have big baddies to dispatch.

World Events
Something a bit new but something we are working on. The best way to put it is, an event that happens in every zone and every instance of those zones that has every hero working towards a single or group of goals. It's big....

Hope that helps...

Interesting. Will these be ongoing events that are always up then? Or will they be put up periodically like Bloodmoon?

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The new lair in West Side though. What level range will that be first introduced to?

Just about level 15 but nothing is set in stone. The goal is to get some group content earlier and have a nice instance to play.
-Just thoughts-
I like the idea of going through that portal at the end of Westside and finding who was REALLY behind everything. I mean, that dragon HAD to be a minion.. right....right.....?

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YAY! End Game! :D

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Interesting. Will these be ongoing events that are always up then? Or will they be put up periodically like Bloodmoon?

Zone events would be on a cycle similar to Bloodmoon. World events might be closer to Zone events on a different or revolving cycle as far as frequency.

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Very interested in Team duels and hoping we can get up on PTS reall soon.

As for the zone vs dome debate? Put me FIRMLY in the zone camp. :D

Folks want an enclosed space to team duel, somewhere like Carl's Gym or the Dojo come to mind.

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oh.. SG bases.. YAAAYYYYYYY (best impression of Kermit here)

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If this freeform slot lets call it stuff to be nice goes through i really hope the devs plan on greatly increasing the value of subs and LTS in one way or another to make up for this lets say stuff again!!

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What happened to the survival hero games map that should be came along with king of the hill? :(

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Uhmm, what's a 90's Iron Age Costume Set? Is this a typo for the 90's Hero costume set, or is there a new Iron Age (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Age) costume set?

The 90's is referred to as the Iron Age of superhero comics.

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The 90's is referred to as the Iron Age of superhero comics.

This. Or Copper Age is also used. (Terminology is surprisingly disparate depending on who you talk to. I think Overstreet Guide uses Copper, but other sources use Iron).

The only thing I'm not excited about is the increase in level cap. Lack of content is already an issue, I'd like cryptic to prove it can provide enough content for the existing level spread and endgame before increasing the level cap gets any real discussion or planning.

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How do we see the 90's set on PTS with the C-Store down on PTS?

(I'm really asking this. Is there a way?)

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Once Freeform slots become available for Silver, subscriptions will be a complete waste of money.

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What happened to the survival hero games map that should be came along with king of the hill? :(

It was a PvE survival game that didn't make it through the initial stages. We had a cool map and cool critters but it felt like a one-off that didn't fit. I like the idea of a survival map/mode where you can face hordes of foes with ever increasing difficulty and I think it has a place in the alert system as additional Alert type following the initial release.

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Bah, what's the use? In Zone chat today, some random person said the game won't be around a year from now, so obviously all of these efforts will lead to naught.

Just kidding of course! :p

Great updates! I"m especially happy to see some light at the end of the targeting tunnel.

Zone and World events...this is the kind of content that I like most. Can't wait to play it! :D

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Once Freeform slots become available for Silver, subscriptions will be a complete waste of money.

Actually, it would just make Going Gold a better deal. Honestly Silvers pay way more for what they get than Golds Do.

That, and you can;t get Veteran rewards on a Silver sub.



Also....still no word on the Avian Warrior. Sadfase.

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Or Copper Age is also used.

I call it the "WTHITS?!" Age.

The only thing I'm not excited about is the increase in level cap. Lack of content is already an issue, I'd like cryptic to prove it can provide enough content for the existing level spread and endgame before increasing the level cap gets any real discussion or planning.

This is a good thought, but I find there actually is a lot of lvl 40 content already in VB, Lemuria and MI. It's just meaningless because you rarely get rewards or drops that are worth it and since your character isn't leveling and improving otherwise there's no need to go do those missions. If you're having trouble in one spot, you can come back after leveling up usually. If you're having trouble with the hoards of vampires in that graveyard, you're S.O.L..

And those Vibora Bay tombs are too friggin' long! But that's beside the point.

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Actually, it would just make Going Gold a better deal. Honestly Silvers pay way more for what they get than Golds Do.

That, and you can;t get Veteran rewards on a Silver sub.

QFT. I was Silver for 10 months... and oh boy... I regret it sooooo bad, I spent sooooooooooooooo much money =S... I would had 400 days of veteran rewards if I was smarter a year ago.

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Once Freeform slots become available for Silver, subscriptions will be a complete waste of money.

...which is why I came up with this thread -> THREAD! (http://forums.champions-online.com/showthread.php?t=143531)

Besides it'll be one slot for probably like $10 bucks (speculation! Don't shoot me), whereas for $15 a month you can fill all your character slots with freeform characters. Besides this might only mean power selection not power customization like colours and such.

I would gladly buy more character slots to get a couple Freeform characters.

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Avian warrior costume comment of your choice goes here.

That is all I care to comment about.

WHERE IS MY BIRDY STUFF???

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Avian warrior costume comment of your choice goes here.

That is all I care to comment about.

WHERE IS MY BIRDY STUFF???

But you're getting your kitty emotes.

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Premium Free Form character slots (A character slot that has unrestricted power choices and is not

So, uh...yeah. Why the hell are we subbing if this is coming out, then? Had I known this was coming out, I would've saved my 300 bucks and just waited for a silver freeform slot rather than wasting it on lifer.

Meh.

Edit- So! If silvers can just fork out a little more money to get more of what us lifers/golds can get, are we going to actually get something they CAN'T just buy out of the cstore, or are you guys going to shaft us again?

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So, uh...yeah. Why the hell are we subbing if this is coming out, then? Had I known this was coming out, I would've saved my 300 bucks and just waited for a silver freeform slot rather than wasting it on lifer.

Meh.

Edit- So! If silvers can just fork out a little more money to get more of what us lifers/golds can get, are we going to actually get something they CAN'T just buy out of the cstore, or are you guys going to shaft us again?

I think i have a NICE IDEA for SILVER FREE FORMS!

If you buy a freeform silver slot and you never buyed a archetype you can only mix the powers between the basic archetypes. Know what i mean? Silvers have to buy Archetypes to unlock their powers in Freeform.

Oh im a genius

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We still have 'Power Coloring'!!!

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I'm pretty sure me buying a Freeform slot one slot at a time isn't going to make your Gold account seem like a waste of money... in fact I'm the one wasting my money. Besides if a Silver likes having 1 freeform they might consider upgrading to get all their characters to free form and the other gold perks.

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In general Im very pleased with the info and upcomming changes. Basicly I cant wait for them to be fullfilled ^^.

On the other hand, having that free form for silver account. Its great idea ONLY if subs get A LOT more for being subscribed... Main reason for me to get LTS wasnt the stipend, access to adventure packs or more costumes... It was the ability to make free form a.k.a. "my dream class/toon". So if this goes I basicly see no point for casual players or "dont care about looks" players to get gold.

One more thing, I read that you're planning on making some kind of item improvement/enchant system. Its cool but dont put in item shop any items that would basicly imbalance the game, like most of the f2p mmos do. Balance goes to hell, game will become less player friendly, more goldfarmers will come, etc..

One of the best things about CO is that everyone can get everything without hardcore grindfest, cheating, or buying gold from gold farmers. Dont change that please :).

all in all
+1 RoBo :)

PS. make option to switch between 2/3 builds on same free form champion please :), this game needs it. I know we have more skills than we need but still. If you want to be very good healer or tank or dps, you require 6-8 different powers with each setup.

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I call it the "WTHITS?!" Age.



This is a good thought, but I find there actually is a lot of lvl 40 content already in VB, Lemuria and MI. It's just meaningless because you rarely get rewards or drops that are worth it and since your character isn't leveling and improving otherwise there's no need to go do those missions. If you're having trouble in one spot, you can come back after leveling up usually. If you're having trouble with the hoards of vampires in that graveyard, you're S.O.L..

And those Vibora Bay tombs are too friggin' long! But that's beside the point.Not to mention, I might actually do the UNITY quests some more.

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I think too many are getting bent out of shape on the fact of the freeform setup if it became a silver buy. I honestly have no problem with this and yes I am a gold and started out as silver. Aside everything you have to pay for in being a silver individually, it already is a bargain in what you get for subbing. Much so that when I started and then subbed 2 months later it was a surprise how much easier it made to play the game with the use of more bank slots and bags - something I didn't have to pay extra for in being a sub. Make the value about double a regular AT obviously for one slot and only one slot at a time so retrain would make it only with what ATs you have. Anyone thinking that some may drop subs for this the point is rather moot. It does help if you wish to preserve some characters without having to resub but you would still have to buy bank slots and bags spots all over again. and then you have the vet rewards that you would miss out on. With everything that comes out, subs do get a great boost on things, plus the fact of being able to do two more powers with gold when you freeform.

Secondly the xp giver item make that more benefital to golds or even gold only as a start, one way to keep those with subs happy. Easy way to balance that for silvers to try it out - C Store has 3 different variables of holding for these so called bags and the more you pay in cryptic points for each level determines how much it can hold.

50 pts - 10000 xp
100 pts - 20000 xp
200 pts - 50000 xp

just examples of course of what to do

Let each character only use perhaps 3 a month or allow golds to have as many as they want and get several each month to use like the incentive. Could possibly to an infinite bag as a vet reward of a certain limit to give xp somehow.

There's a lot of ways to approach both things and still keep it worthwhile to sub. I think personally the game has evolved enough and is strong enough to allow silvers a chance to browse the freeform.

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We still have 'Power Coloring'!!!

They should sell that too.

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They should sell that too.

Oh no you didn't! LOLZ

Seriously, I'd buy that too and by seeing if I like it enough for one character I can decide whether or not to sub to get it for all my characters.

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I am curious, if I am on a team and my team leader accepts a team duel challenge, am I forced into PvP?

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I imagine that is how it would work, maybe that is one thing that needs to be tweaked?

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...which is why I came up with this thread -> THREAD! (http://forums.champions-online.com/showthread.php?t=143531)

Besides it'll be one slot for probably like $10 bucks (speculation! Don't shoot me), whereas for $15 a month you can fill all your character slots with freeform characters. Besides this might only mean power selection not power customization like colours and such.

I would gladly buy more character slots to get a couple Freeform characters.

I know you said "speculation", but I think $10 for a Freeform slot goes beyond that, more like "fantasy", considering that an Archetype sells for $11.50...

I'd be expecting at least $20...

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I have a question please: will the wizard / fantasy costume set be an actual costume set for sale in the C Store...

Or will it be a grab-bag?

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I do not like the freeform slot idea. 'Cause currently, it is the most reason to be a Gold.

There are so many alternatives which you can do for Silvers to respond their freeform requests and AT improvements.

For example,

1.) Framework and passive bound. Besides the Invulnerability which is fixed at lvl 8, a glacier can freely pick up powers from Ice power set (ice framework completely open for glacier)

2.) Free designed AT. Allow players to design their own AT. This sort AT has the same limits which other current ATs have but it allows players to select their powers freely. It can be considered as a semi-Freeform. Providing this to Silvers may make Golds feel more comfortable.

or
3.) 3 extra slots. ATs do not need to be changed. At the same time, providing Silvers a chance to buy three powers (which is one of the gaps between AT and freeform) back. And only these three power slots can be selected freely.


Please no freeform to Silvers, unless each slot is extremely expensive .... ex: 10,000 CP .....Well then I will no longer argue this issue. If those extremely rich Silvers are willing to pay, then ... why not? It is business then.

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Epic Lairs: Updates and changes to the existing lairs to add high level gameplay

Will Vikorins Lemurian sorcery finally be no match for our superpowers?

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Will Vikorins Lemurian sorcery finally be no match for our superpowers?

Wait, aren't they already? :V

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Just about level 15 but nothing is set in stone. The goal is to get some group content earlier and have a nice instance to play.
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I like the idea of going through that portal at the end of Westside and finding who was REALLY behind everything. I mean, that dragon HAD to be a minion.. right....right.....?

How about: We thought Hi Pan had summoned the Death Dragon but it was only some lowly demigod. So the new lair would be fighting the actual Death Dragon. Maybe something that actually looks like a dragon.

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My two cents on the Freeform slot thing.

Well... you kinda just took away the reason to keep subscribing...

I'd rather see more freedom within the AT system. The ability to make a tanky Soldier, or a good Inferno, or a DPSer Glacier, or a TK Lancer Disciple instead of a TK Blader. Outright selling a token that says 'here is the reason people subscribe, you get one for life with a one time $25 purchase (hypothetical price)' just doesn't seem right.

Open up new options for Archetypes instead. Open up new passives, Superstat combos, power choices, whatever. If I want to give my Specialist a lunge, I should be able to do that within the Archetype to make them worth the $10 I spent on the AT.

Seriously. Imagine a world of more versatile ATs. Soldiers that can tank, Infernos that don't die in a second, Savages with actual defenses, Specialists actually BEING A THREAT. It's way better than up and selling Freeform tokens.

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How about: We thought Hi Pan had summoned the Death Dragon but it was only some lowly demigod. So the new lair would be fighting the actual Death Dragon. Maybe something that actually looks like a dragon.

I've always assumed we were just fighting an avatar of the Death Dragon. The real Death Dragon by PnP lore is supposed to be much much bigger.

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Thanks for the report. Keep up the good work.

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Tbh I don't have a problem with selling freeform slots, provided they cost at least $20 a pop. CO is fueled primarily by altiholism anyway. If Silvers desire additional freeform slots they get to fuel the machine by burning their cash. Assuming $20 per FF slot, $300 = 15 slots; an LTS gets 16 + a slew of other perks (infinite stipend, VIP lounge, veteran rewards, power coloring).

Yeah, Freeform is the primary reason to sub, but imo this can only do good things for CO. Specifically, keeping CO running (btw if CO dies so does your LTS, soooo...)

And if you're worried that Silvers will only buy one or two FF slots and just keep retconning, well, yeah, that's a possibility. Though, retcons and name changes are already sold on the C-store, both of which facilitate using only 1 freeform slot -- for a price.

Also, don't silvers have a cap of 250g they can have on their character at once? Meaning silvers can't easily participate in high end AH trading (not impossible, just more difficult). Also a full retcon at 40 costs ~900g IIRC, making a full retcon for a Silver player with a Freeform slot ... impractical.

Oh, and to the rest of the UNTIL report:
I'm excited to see this stuff hit the PTS. And pretty please turn on Team Dueling.

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I am curious, if I am on a team and my team leader accepts a team duel challenge, am I forced into PvP?

nope, If you are on a team and your team leader initiates a challenge you can decline and not take part at all. This was one of the issues actually. If a member of the team declined the rest of the team that did accept felt they were at a loss being a hero down for the duel.

In the UI all participants of the duel can see the participant list and see that the teams are imbalanced.

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My two cents on the Freeform slot thing.

Well... you kinda just took away the reason to keep subscribing...

I understand were you gold members are coming from, but, as it has been said before the announcement in no way states that we silvers would be getting the options to color the powers we can choose or any of the costume sets or travel powers or increased currency limitation/bag slots or monthly amount of cryptic points to spend on whatever or priority login or increased character slot limits or that access to one free hideout you had back when they were introduced. That's all i could remember at the time but golds don't worry, you all still have quite alot of advantages over us little silvers and as my friend put it...If I'm going to spend any money on this game it'll be to go all out and become a lifer. since you end up saving money that way over being a subscriber since 300 is what alittle over two years worth of a monthly subscription?

Anyway cant wait to see these updates hit should be alot of fun for everybody cant wait to see team duels. ^^

and that's my thought on that little thing i figure this'll get glazed over anyway :P.

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Actually, it would just make Going Gold a better deal. Honestly Silvers pay way more for what they get than Golds Do.

While there is an LTS, keep in mind that many Golds only rent what they get and at $15 a month. They lapse on a payment and they don't get to keep a thing that came from Gold, including their freeforms. The same cannot be said of anything a Silver buys from the store.

That, and you can;t get Veteran rewards on a Silver sub.

And if the Veteran Rewards were actually worthwhile that would matter, but they started weak and have slipped since then. Most of them are a couple bucks worth of store stuff, and that's in return for 100 days, which for a monthly equals out to about $50 worth of sub-time.

To be frank, 900 days is coming fast upon us yet I don't particularly care because I am expecting to be spectacularly underwhelmed.

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Pleeeeeeeeaaaase ensure i can still get to make my brain-bot action figure when you change the crafting system. I'm soooo looking forward to getting to make it but i'm trying to enjoy the game as i go and not cheat myself by rushing through to max level without enjoying the scenery on the way. Dr Cerebellum needs a mini-me brainbot!

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WHY? This is your MAIN reason to subscribing. PERIOD. You offer this, and just like a problem that STO has, there's pretty much absolutely NO reason to keep subscribing to your game.

This is a terrible, TERRIBLE idea. There's a reason why all the threads that have mentioned this in the past have blown up, and EXACTLY why this thread will blow up too.

I agree completely but lets wait and see where this is going. I'm sure our displeasure is more than noted at this point.

Roboboboboobobobobobobobobobobo:

The Wizard thing - 1) is this also including the possible emanation of powers from staffs 2) and other weapons that was mentioned earlier?

3) For our 900 - can we have more glow/glow on emblems? And a starfield pattern as a color option?

And 4) Is the aura slot the only proposition for auras at the moment or is there any chance this is just one of multiple possibilities like being able to add specific auras to costume parts like for a character that uses the elements to have flaming hair, an ice fist and an electric fist all at once? Because that would be swell.

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"Camera Zoom when zoning"

Is this to say it's been fixed? Cause it's still broken for me, both on live and PTS.

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I too must say NO to the idea of silver's getting any access to freeforms. This is a bad idea from the get go. Many of the reasons have already been stated here, and I won't add on to it(I have a feeling this is going to be a hotly debated topic and people will get in trouble, so I'll avoid adding fuel to that fire).

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"Camera Zoom when zoning"

Is this to say it's been fixed? Cause it's still broken for me, both on live and PTS.

NNNNNNNooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooo!!
I would understand on PTS but I saw it fixed on LIVE all through December!

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"Camera Zoom when zoning"

Is this to say it's been fixed? Cause it's still broken for me, both on live and PTS.

Same here.

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NNNNNNNooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooo!!
I would understand on PTS but I saw it fixed on LIVE all through December!

........

Yup. Still borked.

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heh looks like i was right it has been glazed over.

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Ohohoh! Who's attacking Millennium City and Canada! Mechanon? Dr. Destroyer? The Empress?

I must KNOOOOOOOOW!

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NNNNNNNooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooo!!
I would understand on PTS but I saw it fixed on LIVE all through December!

........

I can't say I remember it being fixed in December as its one of those things I don't notice unless it's broken, but I read the note, scratched my head cause I know it wasn't working a few days ago, and hopped on to see for sure, and it's indeed busted. :(

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Ohohoh! Who's attacking Millennium City and Canada! Mechanon? Dr. Destroyer? The Empress?

I must KNOOOOOOOOW!

and will argent be a temp ally during this invasion? that could be cool

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Here's an idea. Give silvers this freeform slot and as a counterpart, give a discount on some if not most of the C-Store items to Golds.
As a bonus, the longer you subscribe, the higher the discount gets like -10% every 100 days of subscription with a cap of -50%.
As a further carrot, you could make it so for each month of unsubscription, you lose 5% (20% if you devs want to be even more wicked, burning the house of the heretic with lemons if he unsubscribes for 2 months) of your discount.

Also, like Last:

WHERE'S OUR AVIAN PACK?!!

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I don't see the problem allowing silvers to buy freeform slots. It would just be one more thing for people to buy, and that's a good thing.

And while I think it would be great to see more gold subscribers, I'm not exactly sure that's a realistic goal anymore. It's very possible there is more money to be made this way than trying to entice people into going gold. If you think about it the net gain is only $10 a month. If you can get silvers to spend more than that then you're ahead of the game. I think the idea that silvers are nothing but freeloaders and should be treated like 2nd class citizens is a really bad way to look at things.

If giving them freeform slots revitalizes their interest in the game and gets them to continue spending money in the c-store I'm all for it.

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Here is what I think about the entire Freeform Character Slot thing for Silvers.

1: Its one character slot for a high price.
2: It does not unlock freeform for all their slots. So they can't delete an existing toon to free up its slot for a freeform character.
3: The character will still be stuck with all the other limitations silvers have (money and bag limits mostly).
4: They still wouldn't be able to CHANGE THEIR POWER COLORS! MWAHAHAHAHA!
5: Its only ONE character they get as freeform.
6: They do not unlock a new character slot for free upon reaching level 40 like gold players do.
7: They do not get Veteran Rewards.
8: They also do not get the free costume unlocks that Gold players get.

One freeform character would basically = 10+ dollars.

That one toon could give them the taste of...FREEFORMDOM
Thus prompting them to sub so they can get more character slots opened up, more freeform characters, and (most importantly) the ability to change the colors of their powers.
The only thing they should do though, is make it a token that can be bought in the C-Store and thus traded. This way, those that spend the money already will be tempted to buy and sell the tokens.

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If it means more money, which means more work on content, go for it.

Also, yay wizard stuff!!

EDIT: Okay I went back and read everything. I just wanna say to everyone that says that being gold is gonna lose all value....

we get a bunch of costume packs for free

we get adventure packs for free

we get freeform, and power hue altering

we get a new character slot every time a toon hits 40

we get veteran rewards

so yeah, just my opinion, but everyone should look at everything they get that silvers will still have to pay for, even if they get one freeform slot. Are you really gonna be mad that someone spends that much money?

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Hopefully this Silver Free Form thing will turn out good, whatever the results. The best for this game, it should be wished for always, though some may worry ^_^;


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Specialization Trees
Ame is working on a system for the further advancement of your Hero. More information about this feature will be available in an upcoming dev diary


There is more that I could post here but I’ll leave some room to answer some questions about any of the additions or changes in this Report.

Lest I bring up the foul name of my past voluntary prison... Is this similiar to WoW's talent system? Just curious what your ideas are and if it is like that, what would that mean for being able to change your roll in you Character info? For hybrids this is handy, I imagine. If it will be similar to ranks/advantages in that once you pick em you have to buy a retcon token to undo em, or pay a pretty penny of resources?



-Just thoughts-
I like the idea of going through that portal at the end of Westside and finding who was REALLY behind everything. I mean, that dragon HAD to be a minion.. right....right.....?

Or...WHAT That Dragon actually is...post#504 (http://forums.champions-online.com/showthread.php?p=2002534&highlight=red%2C+banner%2C+dragon#post2002534) .



The Future
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End Game (Currently looking at Star Guards)



I like this. I like this a lot. Now...hows about some pew, pew, staff powers, eventually, and some Star Guard costume pieces...and the much asked for label emblem?
Many thanks for all coming goodness that is to come -bow-

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Player voted Travel Power (Distortion Acrobatics) -possibly, POSSIBLY with non-anime run

Just hoping there possibly is an option possibly in power section to pick which run animation we can choose? Some of us like the anime style for some of our characters... lol

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we get adventure packs for free


This would carry more weight if they actually released APs instead of the Comic Series that everyone gets for free.

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Ignoring the obvious freeform discussion for a second, I have to say that hearing about Alerts and stuff really excites me. However, I feel like it's still something that's just going to be swept under the rug. Whenever CoH did something big like adding a new mode of gameplay or content, they made it a huge deal with the issue naming and numbers and generally made you FEEL like you were getting something worth while. I feel like Alerts is something that CO really should be pushing as the 'next big thing', but right now it just seems like it will be another KOTH mode.


People will talk about it about a week before release, then it will fade into obscurity behind all the other MMO's toting their SUPER COOL NEW VERSION UPDATE 3.0! (Now with mountable sea urchins!)

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i read the moon is being cosidered for anouther area, i love this idea, and hope its being planned, in my backstorys, i have three characters, and my supergroup tide in with an alien alience, (two are intersteller marshals (bounty hunters) and one is earth bourn, but has jioned the intersteller organisiation. also, they rolplay that they have a ship on the moon, (next base buy)

be nice to have an area darkside, thats a "secret" space port for" friendly" aliens, that we can pretend is a customs and imagration entry piont to earth.

of course, i would suggest for artwork, a few areas where some of the moon missions are memorialsised, with some history included.

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Honestly before, or instead of, these freeform slots, you guys need to actually *promote* Subs. When I started playing before F2P, even the overall customization I got from just the 1 week trial periods (codes gotten from subscribed players) was enough to tantalize me into, also right before F2P, buying a dirt cheap 30 day period since the stipend was worth the amount I payed even though I planned on being SIlver.

I was pretty much hooked after, and never touched Silver.

Give people free trial Gold runs to hook them, Cryptic. At least 2 weeks.

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I don't see the problem allowing silvers to buy freeform slots. It would just be one more thing for people to buy, and that's a good thing.

And while I think it would be great to see more gold subscribers, I'm not exactly sure that's a realistic goal anymore. It's very possible there is more money to be made this way than trying to entice people into going gold. If you think about it the net gain is only $10 a month. If you can get silvers to spend more than that then you're ahead of the game. I think the idea that silvers are nothing but freeloaders and should be treated like 2nd class citizens is a really bad way to look at things.

If giving them freeform slots revitalizes their interest in the game and gets them to continue spending money in the c-store I'm all for it.

Mostly this is how I feel... but with the caveat that I do want gold to have a reason to exist.

Otherwise *I* feel screwed; and I've spent probably 500 bucks on CO total, maybe more, and that's not including regular subscribers who've maybe even spent more just by renewing regularly.

I mean let me put it like this: If you'd offered me a lifetime sub at launch, or gave me the option to play free, and the current selection of options were in place - the ONLY reason I'd go for the LTS would be the freeform building. That's it.

I'm not saying "no freeform for silvers" I'm saying "if you're going ot do this, do something for gold's too". I like the idea of a C-Store discount Sauria-Lizard proposed. < . .> I'm more willing to part with money when I get more stuff for it, so that'd help me feel like spending more money on the game.

Just my 2 cents.

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I'm a Gold sub, and quite frankly, I don't have any sentiments towards the Silver FF Slot at all. I look at it like this:

If the FF Slot for Silvers is more than $20 (or like the bundle packs of 2000-odd CPs), I'll play just like I am. No loss in absolute value, maybe a slight loss in relative value.

If it's around $15, I'll just convert 2 of my favorite characters into said FFs, and unsubscribe to become Silver. Loss in absolute value, but a huge gain in relative value.

Lastly, I like Keiko's idea about a C-store discount as a rewards program for staying Gold/LTS.

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I totally support freeform slot, as long as it is purchaseable in CStore and not in Grab Bags where you try and gamble.

I'd rather pay a fixed 1xxx cryptic points for a freeform slot rather than spend ALL my cryptic points just trying to get a Freeform slot token from the Grab Bags.

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Heroes!
Time for another UNTIL Field Report.

Yay!
Alerts (These will be on PTS in February)

Yes!

Team Duels: Team leaders will be able to challenge a member of another team to a duel.

*punches the air*

90's Iron Age Costume Set

Much as I disliked the Image-era, it had a certain style that will be fun to see in-game. It'll be overused at first, but I'll just grit my teeth like Grifter or Cable and put up with it. :D

On the schedule
A new group Lair in Westside.

This was something I was hoping to see at FtP launch. CO needs a Deadmines equivalent. Looking forward to seeing more on this.

New Zone Events: Large scale, multistage, zone events that offer new encounter opportunities and large group gameplay.

Fantastic. I've posted elsewhere about my hopes for these, however as you've posted in that thread, I'll not repeat it.

Epic Lairs: Updates and changes to the existing lairs to add high level gameplay

For me, this is one of the priorities. APs and CSs have added more for 40s to do, but this would probably go further than anything else you could do. Giving us Epic Dr. Destroyer Factory asap would be very nice. I'd direct you to Pantagruel's thread (http://forums.champions-online.com/showthread.php?t=120000) for good ideas about this topic.

Lair Boss reviews: Improvements to the Lair Bosses.

Most of the lairs are pretty old, and there have been a lot of changes in powers over time. This is another high priority, I'd say. I'd love to see another stage added to the Kigatilik fight when the big blustering bag of hitpoints reaches half his health.

Also, reducing the timers on Qwyjibo and Teleiosaurus so they spawn every two hours, and making sure there's always a second MI instance open would be something that (I hope) could be done in the very short term and help fix some of the farming problems on those critters. Any chance you could put this on the list?

In Design Discussion!
Nemesis Updates: Any and everything we can do to get you more time with your Nemesis. This includes more frequent encounters and opportunities to fight your nemesis with your fellow heroes. Additionally we are looking to add more minion types and options.

Adding the new power types and some new minions (and redesigning a few old ones) would be one of the easiest content additions you could make to the game right now. However, what the nemesis missions reall need are some new nemesis archetypes, and new start and end missions tailored for those archetypes. Until we get a Foundry system where we can make our own nemesis missions, I don't see much progress made. Opportunities to face them in Alerts will be more than welcome, of course. The recent appearance of our nemesis in a certain piece of new content was hopefully a taste of this.

Cat animations and emotes (for players as well)

For all the emote needs in the game, cat emotes, while fun, are probably the least needed. (Please insert one of my rants about moar emotes here and adding the ones already in game here, as I'm sure you've heard it before).

If we're getting a supercat sidekick or pet/AF, or you need jaguars, panthers, lions, tigers and sabertooth models for missions, then the new animations would be most welcome. A wider variety of critters with smoother animations would be nice.

Premium Free Form character slots (A character slot that has unrestricted power choices and is not subscription bound)

Uh... no. In addition to the diminishing of Gold accounts, I suspect this would undercut Archetype sales. I suppose a Freeform with two fewer power slots than a Archetype might fix that, then Golds would have a
"Premium Freeform" which would give them improved value, but that still seems unsatisfying.

So, *sigh*. You've heard the screaming from others and my objection probably won't be heard amid the tumult. Maybe a short free trial followed by a half-price discount on a one month Gold sub would be a better idea.

The Future

Looking forward to seeing all of these move up the list. I need to pick up that Super-Patience power.

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I already voiced my thoughts on the Silver FF in other threads. So I will instead ask about the upcoming zone. I believe that you told us in the last Ask Cryptic that the design for it is soon done and ready to be revealed.

So basically, two questions.

1: Is the design for it finalized?
2: Is Anubis working on the environments?

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Like Last and a few others as well..because we really really REALLY want them:

AVIAN WARRIORS! Where are they!? Why must you torment us with this vulture head that...*sigh*

Can we get at least an estimate on when we MIGHT begin seeing news on them?

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Weeeeeelll...
-breathes deeply-

Ok, not gonna rage, there's no point, so: Congratulations, Silvers, you got your freeform.
That shows that if you whine enough, you can get anything...
Actually, I might just put that to use for those vehicles travel powers...
Someone said "Impossible"?
Well they said that about Silver FF, right?
They also said it about a new animation for acrobatics, right?
Oh and seeee, a Bloodmoon on the calendar!
(Well, actually, I'm really grateful for that one, thanks for listening)

I just hope the management guys know what they're doing and this is not just a way to milk the new F2P players in the short term and let the game rot afterwards...

Anyway, I sure hope that all those changes won't turn C.O. into a whole other game... like one I never chose to put my money in.

On a brighter note, to the tech-guys (you know, the ones giving us the cool stuff, not the money grabbing ones): thanks a lot for the effort you put in this game. And the feedback you give us. I know we are... difficult to handle at times, so thanks for your patience. You guys know who you are, you're awesome, keep it up!

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I think too many are getting bent out of shape on the fact of the freeform setup if it became a silver buy. I honestly have no problem with this and yes I am a gold and started out as silver. Aside everything you have to pay for in being a silver individually, it already is a bargain in what you get for subbing. Much so that when I started and then subbed 2 months later it was a surprise how much easier it made to play the game with the use of more bank slots and bags - something I didn't have to pay extra for in being a sub. Make the value about double a regular AT obviously for one slot and only one slot at a time so retrain would make it only with what ATs you have. Anyone thinking that some may drop subs for this the point is rather moot. It does help if you wish to preserve some characters without having to resub but you would still have to buy bank slots and bags spots all over again. and then you have the vet rewards that you would miss out on. With everything that comes out, subs do get a great boost on things, plus the fact of being able to do two more powers with gold when you freeform.

Secondly the xp giver item make that more benefital to golds or even gold only as a start, one way to keep those with subs happy. Easy way to balance that for silvers to try it out - C Store has 3 different variables of holding for these so called bags and the more you pay in cryptic points for each level determines how much it can hold.

50 pts - 10000 xp
100 pts - 20000 xp
200 pts - 50000 xp

just examples of course of what to do

Let each character only use perhaps 3 a month or allow golds to have as many as they want and get several each month to use like the incentive. Could possibly to an infinite bag as a vet reward of a certain limit to give xp somehow.

There's a lot of ways to approach both things and still keep it worthwhile to sub. I think personally the game has evolved enough and is strong enough to allow silvers a chance to browse the freeform.

Gimme my name back!

That is all.

Carry on.

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Talent System....

So curious! XD

Out of everything on the list, this stuck out the most. Anything to further customize our characters is a good thing. Oh, and the Crafting rework.

... of course, they're both rather far off *sigh*

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This stuff about lairs interests me, even though I've yet to actually stick with one character long enough to get there (my gag seasonal character, Santa, is the closest one to 40... Can't honestly remember what level he's at without checking.)...

Team dueling is a definate yes. It turns dueling from a solitary art into something that brings people together. If nothing else, it means that, say, a group of redshirted spacemen lead by one gold-shirted spaceman can fight off a group of psychotic green-skinned alien women.
Make it so!
... Wait, wrong universe.
Well... Some cop toons can fight some gang toons and all will be nice.

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Freeform for Silvers:

I like it, (and like another poster said..so long as it's not in a grab bag.. WORST mechanic ever).

Giving me and everyone else options on HOW we want to pay for the features we want is a good thing yes? So long as it makes Cryptic money and doesn't prey on the customer (like grab bags do :) ).

If we don't want to buy the feature piece meal for every character we have, we can subscribe. If we don't care about that and the other benefits a subscription offers then we have the option of going silver ourselves.

This doesn't take away anything from having a subscription other then the ability to say.. look what I have that you can't get.... and personally, I find that sort of thinking shameful.

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Well freeform slot, I would say no, this is a bad idea.
Subbing to gold will have little to no insterest.

For Avian Set, It will come the small new zone of 4-5 neighborhood I guess.

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I have huge doubts about the archetype sales being very significant. By contrast, I'd assume that sales from Freeform Slots would be immense. And you gotta face it, "diminishing value of Gold" is a myth, it's all there. I'm going to assume Freeform costs 2000 CP a piece, and with that... I'm still going to save a helluva lot of money going LTS (even if I hadn't gone LTS when it was given on a discount) thanks to all the character slots, the fact they're all Freeform, etc.

The thing is, Freeform Slots are gonna tap into the customer base that does NOT suffer from a severe case of Altitis and is far more willing to spend one-off 20 bucks for creating a Freeform character than predict he's going to create 10+ Freeform characters and play for over a year.

More importantly... I CAN SEE THE TWO ADDITIONAL DOMES IN MY MOONBASE I CAN LOOK INSIDE BUT I CAN'T GO IN I WANT TO GO IN

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In addition to the Freeform Slots for silvers, I would like to bring up to idea for raising the resource limit for Silvers. I'm recently upgraded from Silver and I really didn't mind having to use AT's as much as the limit on resources. I think that 250g is just no enough to enjoy the game properly. In STO they are now selling an increase in the "Energy Credit" limit for their Silvers, and their silvers get a lot more for nothing then your silvers, and suggest you do something like this for the Champion Silvers. Allow them to buy an increase in their resource limit.....

Thanks!

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Weeeeeelll...
-breathes deeply-

Ok, not gonna rage, there's no point, so: Congratulations, Silvers, you got your freeform.
That shows that if you whine enough, you can get anything...
Actually, I might just put that to use for those vehicles travel powers...
Someone said "Impossible"?
Well they said that about Silver FF, right?
They also said it about a new animation for acrobatics, right?
Oh and seeee, a Bloodmoon on the calendar!
(Well, actually, I'm really grateful for that one, thanks for listening)

I just hope the management guys know what they're doing and this is not just a way to milk the new F2P players in the short term and let the game rot afterwards...

Anyway, I sure hope that all those changes won't turn C.O. into a whole other game... like one I never chose to put my money in.

On a brighter note, to the tech-guys (you know, the ones giving us the cool stuff, not the money grabbing ones): thanks a lot for the effort you put in this game. And the feedback you give us. I know we are... difficult to handle at times, so thanks for your patience. You guys know who you are, you're awesome, keep it up!

Its under the heading for items currently being considered. Its not an established fact. That it was brought up at all for consideration speaks volumes about the health of the subscriber base, sure, but its best not to make it sound like its the Silvers' faults. That just isn't fair.

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World Events
New Zone (3-4 Neighborhoods)
Level cap to 45
More Events both small and large
Super group Bases
Guild Improvements (Leveling, Duels)
New Zone (Moon is being discussed)
Level Cap to 50
End Game (Currently looking at Star Guards)
And so much more!!
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there seems to be some good improvment but alot of useless stuff its not that i say its useless its just what my negative thinking about them

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Its under the heading for items currently being considered. Its not an established fact. That it was brought up at all for consideration speaks volumes about the health of the subscriber base, sure, but its best not to make it sound like its the Silvers' faults. That just isn't fair.

Fault?
Who talked about a fault?
No one's at fault here.
It's just ideas and the point of view you have on them.
I was against, they were for, that's all.
Once again: Gz to them for getting what they want.
And let's be fair too: a LTSer has nothing to gain from it, so yeah, some Silvers (and some Golds) were the ones asking for it.

As for it going to happen, two things:
1. It's a huge 180° from the previous Ask Cryptic / Report (where they said it was not being discussed).
2. Can you imagine the backdraft they'll get if they back away from it now that they've said it is being discussed?
It'd be suicide.
Unlike removing the exclusivity of FF to Golds / LTS: they already got our money...

Oh, something else I'd like to offer as food for thoughts:
One of the most recurring arguments I see cited as an advantage for LTS / Gold is all those costume packs / rewards.
True, we do get them as a package, but considering the value, to evaluate what a Silver would have to pay to get it, is highly biased.
We get it along our sub, we aren't picky, BUT if we were to have to pay, would we REALLY get all those packs?
I sure wouldn't: I never play zombies toons, or caped toons, heck I don't even like half the stuff I get "for free"...
So to me, instead of my 300€ for LTS + all the packs I've had to buy the last 7-8 months, I'd probably be sitting at something like 100-150€ total.
That is a huge difference.
Pay for what you really want is where the real power is.

That, to me, is the actual loss of value for my LTS by allowing FF for Silvers as I wouldn't have taken a LTS had I known this was coming.
No perception involved, just a cold, hard cash loss of 200-250€.

Anyway, no use crying over it, right, it won't come back.
Unless Cryptic / PWE offers a few goodies to Golds/LTS to make up for it.
Like a bag or a coupon once in a while....
Yeah... one can dream, right?

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And let's be fair too: a LTSer has nothing to gain from it, so yeah, SOME Silvers (and some Golds) were the ones asking for it.




There fixed that for you. Im silver and I feel shafted. Bought all the AT's and that in itself is a rather big wad of cash....but now its like yeah all your AT purchases are for nowt we have this new slot ur gonna HAVE to buy or be left behind.

I think its a bad fricking idea ¬.¬

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There fixed that for you. Im silver and I feel shafted. Bought all the AT's and that in itself is a rather big wad of cash....but now its like yeah all your AT purchases are for nowt we have this new slot ur gonna HAVE to buy or be left behind.

I think its a bad fricking idea ¬.¬

Sorry Nephty and QFT, I'll fix it in my post as well.
Generalities... BAD!

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Fault?
Who talked about a fault?
No one's at fault here.

The fault you're upset (but not raging) about here.



Ok, not gonna rage, there's no point, so: Congratulations, Silvers, you got your freeform.
That shows that if you whine enough, you can get anything...

Tone is everything. I feel like my subscription is losing value too but I'm not blaming it on whiners.

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What you're saying now isn't what you conveyed using your earlier diction.

Tone is everything. I feel like my subscription is losing value too but I'm not blaming it on whiners.

-shrug- Perception... With it, you can make anyone say anything...
I'm not native, don't read too much into what I say to find hidden truths.
I'm quite upfront about what I mean: more power to them, more shaft for me.
Ask Gentleman Crush or Splosions: they had the uncensored version of what I thought...
It was quite ban-worthy, hence why I moderate my words here.

Like Obi-wan would say: "Luke, you're going to find that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view.".
The ones who asked for that change are responsible for it.
Is it good? Is it bad?
For me bad, for the game? Only time will tell.

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-shrug- Perception... With it, you can make anyone say anything...
I'm not native, don't read too much into what I say to find hidden truths.
I'm quite upfront about what I mean: more power to them, more shaft for me.

That's not 100% true. You can narrow the scope of possible interpretations by being more concise with what you write the first time. If you assert that what you wrote the second time is what you meant the first time, then, what you wrote the first time was not as concise as possible.

There is nothing hidden (at least not hidden very well) in the way you phrased your post.

Say what you mean. I agree with a lot of your points but I find the presentation highly accusatory and/or (by your admission no less) quite angry, ragey, and unfair to Silvers who also spend money to keep this game alive for you and I.

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Silver Freeform slots provide the option for CO to showcase its greatest strength to new potential customers right off the bat. As a former sub/current LTS who's been here since the beginning, I do not need extra trinkets, doo-dads, discounts or bonuses to feel comfortable giving Silvers a chance to experience what I've been experiencing since day one. Love or hate the ATs, they are NOT a good representation of what CO truly has to offer; if they were all I'd had to base my opinion of the game on, I would've been gone in a month. If you feel this addition to the game will decrease the relative value of the money you have spent in/on CO already, consider it inflation and get on with your lives. The money is already spent, and EVERYTHING IN YOUR LIFE is subject to change at a moment's notice. You aren't going to get reimbursed for purchasing this month's iPhone when next month's comes out either.

I am Rattlesnake,
I am pro-Silver Freeform slots,
and I approve this message.

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Silver Freeform slots provide the option for CO to showcase its greatest strength to new potential customers right off the bat. As a former sub/current LTS who's been here since the beginning, I do not need extra trinkets, doo-dads, discounts or bonuses to feel comfortable giving Silvers a chance to experience what I've been experiencing since day one. Love or hate the ATs, they are NOT a good representation of what CO truly has to offer; if they were all I'd had to base my opinion of the game on, I would've been gone in a month. If you feel this addition to the game will decrease the relative value of the money you have spent in/on CO already, consider it inflation and get on with your lives. The money is already spent, and EVERYTHING IN YOUR LIFE is subject to change at a moment's notice. You aren't going to get reimbursed for purchasing this month's iPhone when next month's comes out either.

I am Rattlesnake,
I am pro-Silver Freeform slots,
and I approve this message.

Well said, coming from a player who's been here since its launch.

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That's not 100% true. You can narrow the scope of possible interpretations by being more concise with what you write the first time. If you assert that what you wrote the second time is what you meant the first time, then, what you wrote the first time was not as concise as possible.

There is nothing hidden (at least not hidden very well) in the way you phrased your post.

Say what you mean. I agree with a lot of your points but I find the presentation highly accusatory and/or (by your admission no less) quite angry, ragey, and unfair to Silvers who also spend money to keep this game alive for you and I.

Nothing I can say will ever be good enough for you, right?
Bah, feel offended all you want, I don't care much.
Yes, I'm angry and yes only people who didn't have access to Freeform would cry for it time and time again, every month to get it.
And they won.
Do I have to be concise? No.
Do I have the right to be angry, yes, as long as I insult no one.
Feeling like I insulted you?
Use the report option, the mods will judge me.
You should have done so from the start btw, cause you're judging me just like you accuse me to judge Silvers... just saying.
Anyway, yay for the change, have fun.

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Nothing I can say will ever be good enough for you, right?
Bah, feel offended all you want, I don't care much.
Yes, I'm angry and yes only people who didn't have access to Freeform would cry for it time and time again, every month to get it.
And they won.
Do I have to be concise? No.
Do I have the right to be angry, yes, as long as I insult no one.
Feeling like I insulted you?
Use the report option, the mods will judge me.
You should have done so from the start btw, cause you're judging me just like you accuse me to judge Silvers... just saying.
Anyway, yay for the change, have fun.

Geez that's a boatload of assumptions. At least you're admitting that you're raging. Calm down and talk later. I'm not even really disagreeing with the points you brought up but you're just too angry to talk to.

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Team Duels: Team leaders will be able to challenge a member of another team to a duel.
(This feature is in but not turned on. Internal tests and feedback was luke warm to the current implementation and while we want to get these to you, the feature needs a few tweaks. I might be open to turning the feature on for PTS to get your feedback if there is an interest)



Me and a bunch of Lifetime buddies are willing to test Team Dueling if turned on in the PTS. We're interested in finding out how it works and what is wrong with it in terms of opposing team status.



Xp Gifting: Gift some of your experience to your alts or friends
The current implementation: An item that allows you to put experience in by using it. The item can then be used by another character to have experience granted to them which will then destroy the gift item. The item can be used from the character’s main inventory. -What does it need?- We need to be able to balance the feature and tune it for players across all levels. There are also a few questions that we need to get answered both internally and on PTS when testing begins.



It should be based on a percentage of experience needed to level up, like the number of bars displayed on your characters. If anything, I would recommend making this a permanent, unbinding device like the becomes. It sets to the device tray and while activate stops experience gain. Instead of building up a bar of experience on our character, which is based on a percentage of experience needed to level up, it builds that bar on the device.

When that bar fills up, it creates a perishable device in your inventory that equals 1 experience bar.

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The Until report forgot to mention the addition of bubble helms for Bears and Brous.

I like most of the stuff I'm hearing. I first thought I'd drop my sub for a freeform slot, but that means I'd have to buy bank space, bag space, AH space, have less money, no power hues, no Gold costumes... Yea, I'd rather just fork the money for a sub for the sake of convenience. Premium Freeform adds more choice to play the game the way it fits your playstyle. Maybe my reasons aren't enough for some, but I'm likely not the only one with this outlook. Happy players all around is better for everyone.

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Well i mostly agree to Meredith.
I'm here since headstart also since some people seems to think it matters (i personally don't think it matter).

Now make it cost 100$ and we're good.

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(In Design Discussion)
" Cat animations and emotes (for players as well) "

Does this mean the cat manimal heads won't be so... motionless? Possibly adding blinking? Maybe not make them look sooo... saber-toothed? Dr. Smith desires better cat head.

Also, woot for distortion acro. (Voted for it.) Looking forward to a lot of the updates coming soon.

That is all for now.

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I'm a Gold sub, and quite frankly, I don't have any sentiments towards the Silver FF Slot at all. I look at it like this:

If the FF Slot for Silvers is more than $20 (or like the bundle packs of 2000-odd CPs), I'll play just like I am. No loss in absolute value, maybe a slight loss in relative value.

If it's around $15, I'll just convert 2 of my favorite characters into said FFs, and unsubscribe to become Silver. Loss in absolute value, but a huge gain in relative value.

Lastly, I like Keiko's idea about a C-store discount as a rewards program for staying Gold/LTS.
Value. Tricky word that.

Let's look at it from Cryptic's perspective, i.e. what value are you to them:

Right now, you're $15/month, plus any C-store purchases you do.
If FF slots are $20+, you're still $15/month plus any C-store purchases you do.
If FF slots are $15, you're going to be $30 plus any C-store purchases you do.

I.e. if they price the slots at $15, your value is zero after two months (disregarding the C-store purchases since they're the same no matter what your sub status is).

Let's postulate that the game lives another year, and that FF slots are priced at $15.
For every Gold that drops to Silver, 12 FF slots need to be sold to break even.
Is it likely that every Gold that drops to Silver will buy 12 FF slots? No, not likely. I'd guess they'd buy one or two FF slots, so there's another ten to be made up for.

Would five current Silver subs buy two FF slots each to make up the deficit? Possibly. But they would have to for every Gold that drops to Silver or this thing would lose Cryptic money.

Price the slots at $15, and 12 FF slots need to be sold to break even for the year.
Price the slots at $20, and 9 FF slots need to be sold to break even.
Price the slots at $30, and it's 6 FF slots need to be sold to break even for every Gold sub that goes Silver.

At $30 per slot, do you think there's still three Silvers that'll pick up two slots each for every Gold sub that goes Silver?

All this is just to break even - I can't imagine doing such a thing just to break even. There has got to be a profit in it to make it worth even considering, and I don't see that profit anywhere.

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'The Future
These are features that we are working towards. Items listed in this section need the most discussion and are subject to the largest change. This list does not represent all the things we want or are planning to do but they are some of the larger things we are planning and working towards.

World Events
New Zone (3-4 Neighborhoods) <--- This...
Level cap to 45
More Events both small and large
Super group Bases
Guild Improvements (Leveling, Duels)
New Zone (Moon is being discussed) <--- And this...
Level Cap to 50
End Game (Currently looking at Star Guards)
And so much more!!'


...are those the same? Two different zones? If yes, on what will they work first? Is the former one the mysterious 'Semi-Gritty City Zone'? The truth is out there, Scully...

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Premium Free Form character slots (A character slot that has unrestricted power choices and is not subscription bound)


Ok golds can stop their subscription and PERHAPS come back as silver players, thanks :mad:

I think recent LTS should be happy to read this.

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most of what I read here looks good except for three things: the free FF character slot, xp gifting, and C-store coupons.
on xp gifting, I really think it would be a better idea to just use the already proven and effective system of using rested xp. which would be easy enough to do. just logout in a hide out and it counts the time logged while in a hideout and applies a rested xp amount to that character that goes back to being normal xp after the rested xp amount is met. and then gives more reason to actually pick up a hideout besides just a private hangout spot in game.
and the FF character slot and C-point coupons. no. just flat out no. the gold account I have is cause I played as a silver after awhile and I decided to put my money into becoming a gold account. the things I gained for going gold are cause I wanted to be a gold account and the money I pay, and still pay, is money I earned at my job. mine to spend however I wish after I've paid my bills. and cause I wanted the gold account, I paid for it. which any silver can do. they just have to decide to spend the money for it. just like everyone else that has gold and LTS did.
and the coupons shouldn't happen as well. but if Cryptic wants to offer discounts, then make it a monthly thing. a weekend where there's a flat discount on all the items in the store. that's already coded in the game for various events. just make it monthly and no need to do coupons.

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I've read through the forums regarding the Freeform Slots and I think I have to agree that I think it's not a good idea. Here is my reasoning: having listened for over a year to the talk in-game as well as forum-wise, many people do not have lots and lots of characters. I have over twenty but I fit into the smaller percentage. No, I don't have percentages and that'd be hard to compile based only on what people have said. Back to my reasoning: if paying Gold members purchased - oh, say 4, maybe 6 slots - they can stop subscribing and stay Silver. With other newer games always coming out, players do tend to look for the newest game and that means spending money. Why bother staying a Gold member when you have some Freeform slots, and therefore, don't have to pay anymore for Gold membership? That means players can spend their real cash on other games. It doesn't seem to be a good way to get cash inflow, and potentially, could end up hurting more than helping later down the line.

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First off, Thanks Until for this report. Second, YES!!! we love lisoning to you guys talk about the future of the game. its good to know that 40 is not end=game. I hope that 50 is gona be end game, or at leest a good steping stone to the next Expantion, :) you guys are working hard and we all appreciate your hard work. my Question is, if the level cap is end-game 50, dose that mean we get like 3 more skills for free-form @_@ cuz i'd love that.

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Player voted Travel Power (Distortion Acrobatics) -possibly, POSSIBLY with non-anime run

After reading this the following happened.
*Passes out*



Wakes up a few minutes later to reread the post. *Fist pump!!!"

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Tanks for the new until fiel reports Robobo.
My toughts on it:

Positive:
- Alerts on pts in february (new playable content soon, yeah)
- Zone events in the schedule section from the "in discussion" section, yeah.
- New group lair at level 15 (the game need others at level 20 and 25 before Dr destoyer at lvl 28, and some new lairs at level 40)


Negative:
- Free form slots in c-store. Hum, i can't say i hadn't see it to come with all the whine from silvers. And this isn't the end. Exemple in page 10:
"In addition to the Freeform Slots for silvers, I would like to bring up to idea for raising the resource limit for Silvers."
Next step, the colors of the powers. And this will ok. No more value to be a gold customer.

The mostly part of subscribers have already quit the game (but LTS because we can't unsubscribe) because, 1) the game lack of content, 2) there is a too low value to subscribe and pay 15$/€ every month when you can have all the game but freeform and all the new content for 0$. And must to buy every not playable content in store as free players.
The game isn't a success because of these 2 points, and for you the solution to this is to sell free form characters ?
Hum, ok.

The good thing of this decision if it goes live, i will can say to players who have quit CO to continue to subscribe at their new games and only come to play at CO for the price of FF slots only.
As many silvers do at this moment, they will just have to create many accounts and create a super group where they are alone in, to not have to buy inventory slots, characters slots, banks slots and market slots. To buy a ff slot on some of their accounts (depends of how many characters they want to play, perhaps just one ff slot) and let's go for a totally free gameplay unlimited time as if they were gold players without pay a subscription anymore ! Yeah !
No more subscription to cryptic, this is the best offer since the LTS. They will can to continue to pay their sub to bioware or sony.
After all, if Cryptic don't want them like gold subscribers, if cryptic don't need their money, and want them to play like real free to play players, this isn't a real problem for players.
Many thanks for them, they are going to make big money savings. Thanks for your generosity Cryptic.

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I'm ok with free-form slots provided that Cryptic charge high for them, like +2 months worth of sub high.

This is probably the only time I will advocate this.

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The Until report forgot to mention the addition of bubble helms for Bears and Brous.

I like most of the stuff I'm hearing. I first thought I'd drop my sub for a freeform slot, but that means I'd have to buy bank space, bag space, AH space, have less money, no power hues, no Gold costumes... Yea, I'd rather just fork the money for a sub for the sake of convenience. Premium Freeform adds more choice to play the game the way it fits your playstyle. Maybe my reasons aren't enough for some, but I'm likely not the only one with this outlook. Happy players all around is better for everyone.

Exactly this. More players with more options. It's win.

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Silver Freeform slots provide the option for CO to showcase its greatest strength to new potential customers right off the bat. As a former sub/current LTS who's been here since the beginning, I do not need extra trinkets, doo-dads, discounts or bonuses to feel comfortable giving Silvers a chance to experience what I've been experiencing since day one. Love or hate the ATs, they are NOT a good representation of what CO truly has to offer; if they were all I'd had to base my opinion of the game on, I would've been gone in a month. If you feel this addition to the game will decrease the relative value of the money you have spent in/on CO already, consider it inflation and get on with your lives. The money is already spent, and EVERYTHING IN YOUR LIFE is subject to change at a moment's notice. You aren't going to get reimbursed for purchasing this month's iPhone when next month's comes out either.

I am Rattlesnake,
I am pro-Silver Freeform slots,
and I approve this message.

QFT

I too approve of this. The faster this happens the sooner I can start poking friends to get them to come back to the game. Including one friend I've known since I was 5, who wont play the game for the simple reason he can't afford another sub and he feels the F2P system here is really unfair. He liked the combat and thought the game did a lot of things really well, said he'd be willing to throw down money on a FF slot if it was an option, and even buy other MTs here and there, but at the moment Cryptic is getting nothing from him. He's busy spending money on their last game, ironically.

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Ok golds can stop their subscription and PERHAPS come back as silver players, thanks :mad:

I think recent LTS should be happy to read this.

I'm recent. I'm indiffernent, to be honest. I won't pretend to know Cryptic's business for them. They know their numbers, and probably have someone with experience in affairs. I have neither. I wouldn't have dropped to Silver anyway, for the reasons Sekimen mentioned. It's just a lot more convenient to stay Gold.

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I'm excited that Cryptic is finaling talking about selling freeform slots. I think it's a good decision to continue the growth of the game.

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Well alot of things in here of this latest report sounds very positive and very happy to hear that they will be coming soon.

I have been seeing alot of very strong opinions and do agree to some and disagree with others.
I won't post exactly what those are but I think for anybody reading through this thread you can probabaly figure out what I'm referring to here so I'll only address it briefly:

Premium Freeform slots: This could potentionally work. Is it a good idea? Hmm.. I'm kinda speechless at the moment on that subject. If they are to indeed do this then I would like to see some limits put in to serve as some sort of a preview to what a person can expect to see if they go full on gold or LTS member like myself.

Cryptic be very careful here. Seriously. Really test this out first and really pay attention to the community. Don't need to tell you I know, but somebody should say it.

Now onto other things:

Team Duels: THIS MONTH! PTS! NOW! WE REALLY REALLY WANT THIS.

Alerts/Zone alerts: On the right track. Keep this going


New crafting system: ABOUT TIME! The current is so outdated it's showing it's age to even peeps who've been here since beta. And if this helps our current gear when the newer updated sats come in? I'm totally fine with that.


Future:

New zone/ level cap raise: GET THIS DONE PRONTO. We've waited long enough. Make us proud guys.

As for everybody who is clearly riled up in this thread. Calm down . Breathe. Count back to ten. Okay? Good. For those of us who can get on test really REALLY get on it and test these things out when they arrive on it and seriously be vocal once you have tested it first.

My two cents is done.

This message is brought to you by your local SoulStar

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Well alot of things in here of this latest report sounds very positive and very happy to hear that they will be coming soon.

I have been seeing alot of very strong opinions and do agree to some and disagree with others.
I won't post exactly what those are but I think for anybody reading through this thread you can probabaly figure out what I'm referring to here so I'll only address it briefly:

Premium Freeform slots: This could potentionally work. Is it a good idea? Hmm.. I'm kinda speechless at the moment on that subject. If they are to indeed do this then I would like to see some limits put in to serve as some sort of a preview to what a person can expect to see if they go full on gold or LTS member like myself.

Cryptic be very careful here. Seriously. Really test this out first and really pay attention to the community. Don't need to tell you I know, but somebody should say it.

Now onto other things:

Team Duels: THIS MONTH! PTS! NOW! WE REALLY REALLY WANT THIS.

Alerts/Zone alerts: On the right track. Keep this going


New crafting system: ABOUT TIME! The current is so outdated it's showing it's age to even peeps who've been here since beta. And if this helps our current gear when the newer updated sats come in? I'm totally fine with that.


Future:

New zone/ level cap raise: GET THIS DONE PRONTO. We've waited long enough. Make us proud guys.

As for everybody who is clearly riled up in this thread. Calm down . Breathe. Count back to ten. Okay? Good. For those of us who can get on test really REALLY get on it and test these things out when they arrive on it and seriously be vocal once you have tested it first.

My two cents is done.

This message is brought to you by your local SoulStar

Bro there are countless threads showing who agress and disagrees with silvers getting a freeform slot and from what i gather the majority disagrees with it so lets just hope cryptic listens. Also how about increasing the value of GOLD and LTS some hmm.... some of us have been loyal customers way before F2P and wouldn't mind crytpic letting us know they appreciate it and arent trying to screw us with this freeform slot deal.

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nope, If you are on a team and your team leader initiates a challenge you can decline and not take part at all. This was one of the issues actually. If a member of the team declined the rest of the team that did accept felt they were at a loss being a hero down for the duel.

In the UI all participants of the duel can see the participant list and see that the teams are imbalanced.

Thanks for taking the time to answer questions Robobo, you are the best!;)

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Heroes!

A closer look (On Deck)
These are hot topic issues in the Player Community, QA and CS. This list does not represent all the issues we are taking a closer look at, but are issues at the top of our list of things to investigate.

Zone balancing
Zoning or changing instance causes the slow fall for teleport to fail.
Female Average Walk: Arm swing and lower body leg steps are out of sync.
Remote Access: After interacting with the robot, it does not begin moving, preventing completion of the mission.
Escort mission improvements
Malevolent Manifestation: Hold resistance not applied to target every time the hold duration refreshes.
From Bad to Worse perk
Event items are appearing randomly when events are not running
Sea Slug becomes stuck after the first wave of critters.
Cave: Venue: Tropical Venue is no longer available unless Primal Cave hideout is purchased
Players become friendly to both teams after disconnecting or logging out in a PvP match
Trade issues: improving the trade system to better protect from scams
KotH: Victory perk is being credited to the losing team


Not a bad list to look at. I especially concur on the Sea Slug mission.

Up Next!
In Development
These are features we are working on right now. They have made it through the design phase and are being implemented. Items in this section will move to "In Test" once complete.

Player voted Travel Power (Distortion Acrobatics) -possibly, POSSIBLY with non-anime run
Events Calendar: A system that will allow you to see what there is to do in Champs at any time and get right to the action.
Itemization: Improvements and updates to the gear/items you get in the game and how you use them
Item Improvement System: (Was Item Smash/Crafting Improvements): A new way to improve your character and enhance customization
Specialization Trees
Stat updates


On the travel power ....as long as you add SOMETHING for dark/void travel, or electric flight, that'll do. Even just adding black/grey/white to the travel colors would work. I prefer flight to simply running/flipping fast. Do like the Events Calendar idea, make it in-game, maybe a tab on the C-store (A "Coming Soon!" tab).

On the schedule
These are updates that are next on the list to implement. Some features have a longer development time than others but these are what the team will be looking to move on to soon.

A new group Lair in Westside.
New Zone Events: Large scale, multistage, zone events that offer new encounter opportunities and large group gameplay.
PvE Queues: Each Lair added to the PvE queue list
Epic Lairs: Updates and changes to the existing lairs to add high level gameplay
Lair Boss reviews: Improvements to the Lair Bosses.
Wizards/Fantasy Costume Set
Xp Gifting: Gift some of your experience to your alts or friends.
C-Store Coupons: Items that give you a discount in the c-store.


Maybe add more zones for these events. Like a Japanese setting, or maybe Chinese (there is a superteam in China after all). I do want one thing in the Fantasy costume set: myths not in other games (ie centaurs/naga/deerkin/etc). Fantasy is not fantasy without more diversity.

In Design Discussion!
These items in design discussion are for features that are being considered for an upcoming update. The next step for these topics is to have them added to the schedule. Some of these are smaller, quicker tasks while others are a lot larger and require more to design and implement.

Neighborhood Events: Small open missions focused on Heroic encounters
Nemesis Updates: Any and everything we can do to get you more time with your Nemesis. This includes more frequent encounters and opportunities to fight your nemesis with your fellow heroes. Additionally we are looking to add more minion types and options.
Mini Arc level 32: This may fall in the area of Wells Pass and offer a break from Viper and Manamals
KotH Perks
A new slot for Aura's: Special costume Aura items could be slotted to add an aura to you character. The aura items would range from costume slots like gloves or head to full body auras
Swinging improvements and skins
Costume set preview for the C-Store
Hueshifting improvements to allow further hue shifts for FX attached to costume pieces (Jetpack flames)
New Super Speed run anim
Cat animations and emotes (for players as well)
Hideout additions: Training and Crafting rooms
Premium Free Form character slots (A character slot that has unrestricted power choices and is not subscription bound)


YES YES YES! More uses for hideouts, please! And I would love to take on my nemesis a -lot- more. Auras rock too, but again add white/grey/black to it. Premium FF might work, if at least to make you money. Just don't overdo it. ;) Maybe a max number of FF in silver?

The Future
These are features that we are working towards. Items listed in this section need the most discussion and are subject to the largest change. This list does not represent all the things we want or are planning to do but they are some of the larger things we are planning and working towards.

World Events
New Zone (3-4 Neighborhoods)
Level cap to 45
More Events both small and large
Super group Bases
Guild Improvements (Leveling, Duels)
New Zone (Moon is being discussed)
Level Cap to 50
End Game (Currently looking at Star Guards)
And so much more!!


No on the moon. Maybe an alien world, but not the moon. We aren't Superman y'know (ie it has been done, even in Power Rangers). That and maybe a couple more Earth-bound zones, like Japan or China as discussed before. Gooooo level cap raise!

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About the Freeform builds, I don't think it's a bad idea, as long as they are limited to only one freeform slot and that they are limited to the basic AT powers and any ATs they bought for power selections.

EDIT: I think this could give silvers an incentive to suscribe for gold and unlock all the powers and more freeform slots, that's just my opinion on the subject. This or that you give more value to gold/LTS subscriptions somehow.

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New RenCen Powerhouse: Costume stage w/tailor, dueling area, revamped powers testing area.

I hope the mobility center is much bigger. Some of the travel powers are too big for the current room and, combined with the lack of typical outside structures/buildings/etc., it's sometimes hard to get a feel for their actual real-world flavor.

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To all the golds who think the freeform slot is going to "devalue" gold subs, try this neat little trick:

Create a new silver account and try to remake your favorite characters. When you realize that half the costume pieces are missing, you can't change power colors, you have only 1 bag slot, capped resources, etc etc etc, then it should become clear to you all of the things you've been enjoying as a gold subscriber that silvers, even with a freeform slot, still aren't going to have.

That being said I certainly wouldn't be against Cryptic finding new ways to enhance the value of gold subs.

Like XaoGarrent, I have friends I've been trying to get to play that like the game, but don't like the AT restrictions, and don't have enough free time or desire to pay for a monthly sub. A freeform slot has a really good chance of bringing them back into the game.

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WHY? This is your MAIN reason to subscribing. PERIOD. You offer this, and just like a problem that STO has, there's pretty much absolutely NO reason to keep subscribing to your game.

This is a terrible, TERRIBLE idea. There's a reason why all the threads that have mentioned this in the past have blown up, and EXACTLY why this thread will blow up too.

I used to think that then I realized, they'll make more money off that.

Seriously, your average/casual gamer is going to stick around for a few months. (esp as once you hit 40, then what?)
So they subscribe for what? 3-4 months? That is $60 or so? And that is all they will likely see out of that person. I mean they can't come back to their character now can they? So they won't come back. Possible profits lost even if they still have a working email to receive "Hey.. we miss you" emails.

But if they came in, bought what they want, that means money on costume packs, travel powers, and then archtypes/freeform slots, that means the player can leave.. then get the itch and come back and not have lost a thing. They will more than likely go "oh.. I want that costume now." and pick up even more stuff than what their was last time.

Honestly, long term subscribers end up costing the company more than ala cart does. Remember, the stipend? You have to count that against bottom line. Those are store purchases that don't count for actual monetary profits. Your average/casual gamer is not a steady MMO gamer. This is a new market they are trying to tap into after Turbine set the scene up. They have to adapt to it.


Granted I frankly wish they'd sell at least per character, globals storage increase. That would help out player economics so much.

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"Cat animations and emotes (for players as well)"

Um, this one confuses me a little. I vaguely recall when the magic/fantasy costume got its art corner article there was brief mention of a possible cat familiar... magic's nifty and cats are awesome, but how will cat animations and emotes be implemented for players exactly?

Could it be possible for acrobatics, super-jump and/or super-speed to be reskinned with a cat model and animation suite? That'd be pretty darn cool. >.> Course, do that, and there'd have to be wolf skins, too... otherwise the forums would explode.

Anyhoo, hope we get that magic costume set soon... :3

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To all the golds who think the freeform slot is going to "devalue" gold subs, try this neat little trick:

Create a new silver account and try to remake your favorite characters. When you realize that half the costume pieces are missing, you can't change power colors, you have only 1 bag slot, capped resources, etc etc etc, then it should become clear to you all of the things you've been enjoying as a gold subscriber that silvers, even with a freeform slot, still aren't going to have.

That being said I certainly wouldn't be against Cryptic finding new ways to enhance the value of gold subs.

Like XaoGarrent, I have friends I've been trying to get to play that like the game, but don't like the AT restrictions, and don't have enough free time or desire to pay for a monthly sub. A freeform slot has a really good chance of bringing them back into the game.

I'm glad for you if you can reunite with friends, really, I am.
But I'm in the "devalue camp", and yet if you look closely at my sig, you'll notice I have nothing against Silvers... I am one! And Lifer too.
Silver accounts are just as playable, just a lil less convenient.
Yes, again look at the sig and the toons: 2 Silver 40's, nearly 3: I played them with the build-in restrictions.
What I don't like is seeing my "big bucks" account nearly on par with my "freeby" account... Is that so strange?
Imagine your Shelby GT on the highway on-par with a Lada...

Oh, and about the G cap... we all know it's a joke, same as the bank slots.
If anyone doesn't know you can buy mats and sell them at the same price, or have a "personnal bank SG", well here, trick revealed.
Those are not "real" restrictions.

Highlighted sentence: 1000% agreed, this is what I want, nothing else.

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I'd be very excited for team duels, because that would finally give my healer something else do do than play the few cooperative PvP maps. Also it would drastically enhance the capacity for RP conflicts to play out through the engine.

One thing I always and always miss on the list is game balance. I mean when it comes right down to it, game balance has just never really improved in Champions because Cryptic refuses to even look at these certain holy cows, like Crippling Challenge and Enrage that screw everything up.

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To all the golds who think the freeform slot is going to "devalue" gold subs, try this neat little trick:

Create a new silver account and try to remake your favorite characters. When you realize that half the costume pieces are missing, you can't change power colors, you have only 1 bag slot, capped resources, etc etc etc, then it should become clear to you all of the things you've been enjoying as a gold subscriber that silvers, even with a freeform slot, still aren't going to have.


Why would I want to try that?
You are actually asking people who enjoy to play as gold to try and play silver.
You are actually asking people to compare between what you pay and you have for free.

Of course you will have less for free, and if you're used to play the game as gold you will feel like it is lacking.
And that's normal you are downgrading your playing experience.

If you're friends don't play the game because they can't have freeform, they will leave for another reason after playing some months here.

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Zoom has been fixed? It's still doing it on mine... :-/

Not sure I like the Freeform character slot idea. It shifts the game towards how STO has become, where having a LTS becomes less valuable and subscribing isn't worth it any more.

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I do like the idea of freeform slots. I mean, yeah I'm a lifetimer. Its not gonna make a difference for me here either way. The fact is I don't think being a lifetimer makes me any special then the rest.

The only thing is for a freeform gold slot, I think it should at least be a little more pricier then the rest. Not insanely so but enough to make a good profit off of it(They ARE a company after all). I mean, they get the benefits to choose powers and all... but the rest of the lifetime benefits aren't there. So it isn't like, super issue with me. I support this idea.

Cuz, hey. More money to Cryptic = MOAR COOL STUFF.

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Robobo, thanks for the explanation on the difference between Alerts, Neighbourhood events, Zone events and World Events.

This is a great opportunity to add some of the Champions PnP villains to the game. Please, please, please take a look at this following highlighted post for ideas because it would be a shame if all this opportunity was missed and populated with default enemy groups instead (Viper, Demon, Psi etc).


Please take a look at this list (http://forums.champions-online.com/showpost.php?p=1957740&postcount=15) and see if anything here could either be worked in or could inspire an original type of alert / event like eg); Cheshire Cat's teleportation bank raiding shenanigans or Mirage's multi-location alert which could have an element of luck involved; ie); which is the real Mirage and which is the hologram?.

Thanks. :)

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Zoom has been fixed? It's still doing it on mine... :-/

I'm waiting until after I check out today's patch before I call them on it or not.

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I'm waiting until after I check out today's patch before I call them on it or not.

It's broken, and Robobo knows about it. Check back a few pages.

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Is there anyway we can get an updated framework review schedule? As some of of them really need it. Claws I'm looking at you!

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It's broken, and Robobo knows about it. Check back a few pages.

*looks down at the current thread count and grins* Thanks, but i'll pass going back. I mean I figure it is bad enough watching Kenpo and Gaelyn go back and forth, it may only be worse in this one.

I normally hit up the dev tracker here in the next hour or so any how so I would have seen it then. Thanks though, just means I can filter that information to my wife faster.

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Freeform Slots

I'm not sure it's a good idea to hand out the primary selling point of gold. Most people I've seen go gold have done so for the freeform. However if you wish to do so regardless here's an idea on how to play it:

You buy freeform for each framework. You may mix and match any framework you have purchased. Gold characteres have access to all frameworks.

Alternatively: Freeform may only pick from frameworks used by any archetype they have access to. Buying new archetypes unlock additional frameworks for freeform use. THis idea is a bit more lenient....

The first idea actually interesting insomuch that if you priced each framework at 5 bucks, it would cost over 100 dollars to get the same deal as gold.

Core thing is ideally one should aim at figuring out the average length of subscription, and price around that preferrably in piecemeal. Piecemeal is good since it lures them in and then entices further purchases along that line of thought

Events/Alerts/Etc

Probably one of the bigger things I'm looking forward too actually. I especially like a MMO where the world has at least some dynamic element to it. It's something I loved in Rifts and Tabula Rasa (though TR needed work on other fronts), the whole dynamic enemy assaults and you having to hold them off. There's a greater feeling of accomplishment when you defend the town from invasion then if you defend a remote area from having things spawn and then mill about aimlessly like they do in most MMOs. IT's an interesting dynamic. Care must be taken however to keep such things from being overly tedious, or from causing certain areas to be in a perpetual state of invasion, lets the situation starts to feel static again.

Team Duels

I would like to votet for allowing a full zone event, though I suppose a an option allowing for duel-area-size might be an idea.

Ya know, it's probably well out of your scope to address this at this point, but if you are allowing zone-wide duels, the only natural escalation is SG vs SG brawls.

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For those who think that the LTS'ers are just a drain, I disagree. Do you think we don't continue to buy things from Cryptic for the game? We do - we're just not paying monthly.

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To team duels,
The feature works and works well, the feedback from internal testing would like to have it be more than it is.
The UI, for instance, is bare and while I like it that way, playtest feedback wanted to see more detail in the player status. Players (Internal) wanted more info about who was in the invite list for the duel and what there status was. Some requests were to add information to player status in the duel UI so the team knew who as hurt or status affected. THe largest shock was that there was a 50/50 split on players who wanted a free zone battle vs. those who wanted a large dome. I was on the full zone side so I could play zone wide hide and seek or potentially RP an open PVP environment and have guild rivalries.

I have confidence we will get it hammered out once it's on PTS

I agree with you. The zone battle sounds like it offers more possibilities for use than a dome.

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C-Store Coupons: Items that give you a discount in the c-store
Originally thought to be simple drops in the world for flat amounts we would like to expand a little to include specific items. This feature also requires a UI solution for the store that will not be complete for a little bit.


Item Improvement System: (Was Item Smash/Crafting Improvements): A new way to improve your character and enhance customization
Still a little too early to go into any detail. Ame will be talking about this in a dev diary in the coming weeks



IMO, merge these together. Make the coupons a crafted item that can be sold in the auction house. However, I would suggest making it require a CTP type grind for the best coupons.

i.e. A simple 5-10% off next purchase is a rare drop from MV's on up, but to get a 50-75% off coupon for the Halloween Critter Bundle is going to require you have x number of drops and a one time schematic that drops off certain SV's.

Just trying to give crafting some love. :)

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I do like the idea of freeform slots. I mean, yeah I'm a lifetimer. Its not gonna make a difference for me here either way. The fact is I don't think being a lifetimer makes me any special then the rest.

The only thing is for a freeform gold slot, I think it should at least be a little more pricier then the rest. Not insanely so but enough to make a good profit off of it(They ARE a company after all). I mean, they get the benefits to choose powers and all... but the rest of the lifetime benefits aren't there. So it isn't like, super issue with me. I support this idea.

Cuz, hey. More money to Cryptic = MOAR COOL STUFF.

Agreed. What I want most is being able to play this game for a long time and there being other people to play it with and interesting things to do in the game. If that means selling on the c-store the main thing I bought an LTS for, so be it. I'd rather that than the alternative (no game and/or no people).

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Auto Teaming
Hate it and extremely wary of how it will be applied.


Why?


Main reason is there is something about this feature that's been causing my Star Trek Online game to prompt a System Crash since the Season 4 patch last summer. Anything and everything Team/Fleet related (including invites and PvP) makes the computer take a dump.

Is this something I have to look forward to now in this game? I hope I find out soon before I spend any more money in the C-Store. No, nothing is wrong with the Video card. Comp is defragged. Drivers are updated.



2nd reason - I don't want to be forced to play with other people. Don't get me wrong, I understand the value of it and am not closed off to it - I did STFs and TONS of PvP on STO (when I could play it) so good teamwork = victory. But I'd rather have control of whether or not I join a team and over who I team with.


:rolleyes:

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Cat emoticons and animations?

Where's the dog ones?
/lifts leg

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This looks like a great update. Thanks, Robobo.

I do have big concerns about the Freeform slots, though. I lean toward the "not a good idea" side on that one.

The other stuff looks great though. Invasions and more Nemesis time... that's awesome. I don't know if it's been asked, but is creating your nemesis at an earlier level on the table at all? I think around level 15 would be awesome.

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I am a silver and I am loving the idea of freeform slots. But I can see how this cld be abused by other silvers. My sugesstion would be to limit the amount an account can have of freeforms slots e.g. 1 or 2 per account. That way silvers would be able to get a feel for being gold, without cheating the system as the price would be high and they would be limited to 1 or 2 slots per account. So I think it would be a good thing in the long run. So if a limit is applied then it would be a good idea and maybe price it at around 1,200 CP to 2,000 CP? It would be so cool to have these in game :D.

Hopefully I intend to go Gold by next week, but I am very apprehensive and excited by that prospect. I would be grateful if anyone could give me any advice. ( I will post a new thread about it soon.)

But yeah I am loving the Until field report :D.

Also if anyone has suggested limitation idea before hand I do apologise as I did not read all the posts I just skipped to the end :P.

Thanks

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My sugesstion would be to limit the amount an account can have of freeforms slots e.g. 1 or 2 per account. That way silvers would be able to get a feel for being gold, without cheating the system...

It could still be abused theoretically (if allowing people to buy something is abuse, but that's another discussion). Anyone can create several silver accounts. I'm an LTSer and I have a few silver accounts for a couple of reasons.

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Hate it and extremely wary of how it will be applied.


Why?


Main reason is there is something about this feature that's been causing my Star Trek Online game to prompt a System Crash since the Season 4 patch last summer. Anything and everything Team/Fleet related (including invites and PvP) makes the computer take a dump.

Is this something I have to look forward to now in this game? I hope I find out soon before I spend any more money in the C-Store. No, nothing is wrong with the Video card. Comp is defragged. Drivers are updated.



2nd reason - I don't want to be forced to play with other people. Don't get me wrong, I understand the value of it and am not closed off to it - I did STFs and TONS of PvP on STO (when I could play it) so good teamwork = victory. But I'd rather have control of whether or not I join a team and over who I team with.


:rolleyes:
This is already on LIVE. The word Auto is not really right, since you can choose to join the OM Team.

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This is already on LIVE.
Totally aware of that. I still hate the concept of it for reasons I stated. I don't want to invest in something that can potentially eff up and become unplayable like their other game did for me with similar features.


The word Auto is not really right, since you can choose to join the OM Team.
We'll see what it does, I guess. I didn't choose to join any STO fleets/teams after Season 4, but a Fleet/Team invite sure sent the comp into a nosedive. Re: Anything and everything Team/Fleet related (including invites and PvP) makes the computer take a dump.

It hasn't happened in CO yet, but I cringe every time I get a "ninja" invite for a team or SG...

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great updates but i would like to see a travel power that lets the hero climb on any surface or more preferably update acrobatics with that abillity

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great updates but i would like to see a travel power that lets the hero climb on any surface or more preferably update acrobatics with that abillity

Much requested, but sorry, completely unpossible™ due to current game-engine restrictions.

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For those who think that the LTS'ers are just a drain, I disagree. Do you think we don't continue to buy things from Cryptic for the game?
Plenty don't spend in excess of their stipend. In any case I'd say having Gold (no stipend) is presumably worth $200 (1/3 of the value of a $15/mo acct is the stipend, so presumably it's the same for a LTS). There's rapid diminishing returns on the value of multiple characters, but still, Gold (one character) is worth less, call it $100 for the first, $50 for the second. However, freeform slots would not include the bag slots, bank slots, costume parts, and subscription time benefits you get for gold. You'll almost certainly buy the bag slots and are very likely to buy the bank slots, so we'll apply a $15 discount for that. The rest is more situational, though the free retcons from subscription time are significantly valuable. Overall, I'd put the proper cost of a first freeform slot in the $50-$75 range, maybe with reduced cost as you buy more of them.

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hey? I was wondering if you could be a little more cleared on team duels. Can you have a full team vs 1 person at a time?

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On the schedule

Wizards/Fantasy Costume Set

Avian warrior costume comment of your choice goes here...
WHERE IS MY BIRDY STUFF???
It's hidden behind all the Wizardy goodness!
(Seriously, unless "weapon emanation points" tech come with the Wizard set, i'd also prefer the Avian set to come out next also. I wants me a "Deathbird" homage too!)


In Design Discussion!

A new slot for Aura's: Special costume Aura items could be slotted to add an aura to you character. The aura items would range from costume slots like gloves or head to full body auras
New Super Speed run anim
Premium Free Form character slots (A character slot that has unrestricted power choices and is not subscription bound)

...(RE: 3) Uh, no...
1) YAY!
2) WOOT!
3) Um, what Thundrax said...


...Freeform slots for silvers. Why not? ...Honestly I don't see the harm in them...
I'm sure you can SEE the harm.
You may not agree with it, but it's there.


...And if the Veteran Rewards were actually worthwhile that would matter...
Value. Tricky word that...
W.U.R.da stjobe!

"Worth" is a subjective term.
100 days gives a retcon for up to 16 characters (more for 40+), that's a value of $215.

And that's just the beginning of the "Worth/Value" iceburg.


...(RE: Freeform Silver Slots) test this out first and really pay attention to the community...
Which community?
We all know with the example of "137-9-250" that the forum community isn't large enough to have much of a say in these things.
...there are countless threads showing who agress and disagrees with silvers getting a freeform slot and from what i gather the majority disagrees with it so lets just hope cryptic listens...
Once again, unfortunatley, the forum majority is a minority.

I'm curious.
Has anyone thought that offering FF to Silvers at a one time cost MIGHT cause the dreaded "LTS" disease that LTS's are so often accused of having to spread to Silvers?
(Since LTS's already have everything available they don't contribute any more $ to the game)

...Nothing I can say will ever be good enough for you, right?...
Meredy, you're allowed to say what you want to say as long as you say it within the forum guidelines.
Unless FACTS are being questioned (not mood or method), let them be.
They just want you to say what you have to say THEIR WAY, not yours :p


"Camera Zoom when zoning"
Is this to say it's been fixed? Cause it's still broken for me, both on live and PTS.
STILL "Borked" for me too...

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•Specialization Trees


I hope this is more customization and not a WOW type progression.

Champions Online FreeForm allows powers from any powerset (meeting prerequisites) and adding advantages.

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I'm a lifer and have spent over $600 on this game, well beyond what the LTS's cost is. I've been a lifer since launch. And if I had a job and thus a source of income, than that 600 dollar figure would be higher. So for those that think that lifers don't spend much, you are very much wrong.

I'm for the Free Form Slots just because that means that once I get a job I can (depending on how much I earn from my job), reactivate the gold sub for my friend's account (really wish he'd get a job himself though), or buy him either: Free Form Slots so he can make new free form toons (he misses his currently locked gold toons cause he refuses to convert them to silver), or something that would allow him to unlock his gold toons without needing to retrain them at all.

Also, for those that say that this Free Form Character Slot will cause people to stop subbing...I do not see that happening for the most part.

After all, all the current Free Form Toons of the Gold Subber would become LOCKED from use. The person would be forced to convert their beloved gold toons to silver toons, thus forcing them to use ATs with them. OH! Another thing! They gain the silver money cap with those toons, along with the bag slot shortage! Meaning that even if they had all four bag slots filled with bags with goodies, they lose access to those bags! Meaning they would have to buy those bag slots for their gold toons converted to silver.

Basically, by going from Gold to Silver, you lose so much, that just to get access to your beloved gold toons, would cause a person to say "**** that, not till I resub", or cry as they lose everything they worked hard to get and earned as a gold toon.

Gold players would lose to much going to silver just so they can get ONE FREE FORM CHARACTER, when they already have 3 or (most likely) much more gold toons. People that buy the free form character slot would understand better what they are missing as a silver and would most likely want to sub to gold. On the other hand, gold players would see that they already have free from character slots, and thus buying one and losing their sub would force them to lose a lot of free form toons they already have.

For example: Lets say I was not a lifer and thus decided to buy that free from slot, thus gaining my 29th toon. And since I now have a free form slot I make the mistake in thinking its the better deal than continuing my sub. So I stop subbing. Suddenly, I have 28 toons I can't play because they are all locked due to being gold toons, so I take my main and convert her into a silver toon, replacing her fun free form build with the AT that would fit her (Soldier). Not only did I lose my free form build, but I now notice I have no access to my three bags beyond the initial bag. I have to buy those bags. And a lot of the costume pieces I use in her costume no long show because they are gold costume pieces. That is when I realize this: I have 27 more characters to convert to silver and thus lose a lot of stuff on all of them.

That means this: For gold players, one free form character slot is not worth losing everything you already have. Not even two or three free form character slots is worth losing what you have.

The only reasons why people stop subbing are because of the following reasons: They do not care that much overall about free form or the other perks of being gold and want to save money (and thus spend it only when they feel like it); or they ran out of money to continue their sub.

For the most part, people will not suddenly go "Oh! ONE CHARACTER SLOT!" And stop subbing. A gold player would actually think this: "One character slot? Please, I hit 40, and I get a free free form character slot!" IE: Why spend money on a slot they would get for free eventually anyways?

If anything, Free Form Character slots would entice more people to become gold, not entice people to stop subbing.

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Just about level 15 but nothing is set in stone. The goal is to get some group content earlier and have a nice instance to play.
-Just thoughts-
I like the idea of going through that portal at the end of Westside and finding who was REALLY behind everything. I mean, that dragon HAD to be a minion.. right....right.....?

Dr. Yin Wu?

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hey? I was wondering if you could be a little more cleared on team duels. Can you have a full team vs 1 person at a time?
The version previously on pts required a team vs a team, though you could have a team duel where only one person on the team actually accepted the duel.

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Ok golds can stop their subscription and PERHAPS come back as silver players, thanks :mad:

I think recent LTS should be happy to read this.

No body reads any of my posts or any of the other people that explain how this is not the end of the world to you gold huh. Seems some gold members just get made that one of there shinnies is being shared with those that cant afford to get a monthly fee taxed on them, yet, fail to remember any of the other things they get that they'll still get in which we silvers wont.

We wont get color changing, priority login, more character slots/bag slot/money limit increase or any of the gold subscriber costumes or travel powers. all we will get is the ability to pick what powers we have and from most of us it'll be making it impossible to create a character since we silvers usually base our on a set power style.

Maybe if i come off as ticked or insulting someone will read it since that seems to be how the internet works today. I do not wish to but most seem to just get hot headed and refuse to think about whats actually happening and what they still get after this happens, though, lets be honest because of all the golds talking about it in such a way it most likely wont happen though as a suggested, id be fine with a limited free-from slot where we just get to mix around the powers we have access to from the archetypes we've bought or have been given. That my thought on this and sorry again for the insults but hey you read it right?

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I'm a lifer and have spent over $600 on this game.

Thanks for helping to keep the game up and running ^^. I am actually thinking of becoming a lifer someday heh glad to know that ill end up spending even more :P but ill try to control my wallet. Also thank you for also posting reason heh sorry i did not see your post earlier went i post another explanation/semi rant to get the golds attention. :p

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Heroes!

Malevolent Manifestation: Hold resistance not applied to target every time the hold duration refreshes.


Is there discussion to remove this advantage completely? I think it's a source of much bad feelings

Also from Ame:

Re-re-reviewing holds (I think it's been that many) is something we want to do as well during this pass, and something along those lines is where we'd like to head. I don't think we'll be making any players (though possibly critters) MORE susceptible to holds than they already are, but certainly additional ways to resist holds, as well as looking at the base holds themselves.


Can you provide any detail on what you as devs are thinking? I posted my suggestion and there is more feedback in this thread (http://forums.champions-online.com/showthread.php?p=2026731#post2026731). I very much look forward to the review of Crowd Control. I hope you are truly comprehensive and not just focused on Ego Storm. Please feel free to post dev thoughts in the PTS forum as well.

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Player voted Travel Power (Distortion Acrobatics) -possibly, POSSIBLY with non-anime run

I'm not going to lie, I'd love to see all those that were on the list put in the game eventually over time. It was a tough choice really.

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Thanks Cryptic Studios for the report. can't wait for those updates. i am general neutral on the discussions on FFS but question on the freeform silvers, if this "idea" makes it passed paper will it be tested in the PTS?

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To all the golds who think the freeform slot is going to "devalue" gold subs, try this neat little trick:

Create a new silver account and try to remake your favorite characters. When you realize that half the costume pieces are missing, you can't change power colors, you have only 1 bag slot, capped resources, etc etc etc, then it should become clear to you all of the things you've been enjoying as a gold subscriber that silvers, even with a freeform slot, still aren't going to have..

Ive been predicting FF in the C-Store for some time now, and support it (so long as something is done to shore up the value of a subscription), but your test is a no-brainer IMO.

The ability to have my character's FF build for a relatively low one time purchase ?

At the cost of not having access to costume pieces that I dont like anyway, at the cost of having only one bag slot to pick up drops that I generally dont pick up anyway, at the cost of having to store my resources in the form of crafting materials, etc, etc...

In other words giving up nothing.

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Ive been predicting FF in the C-Store for some time now, and support it (so long as something is done to shore up the value of a subscription), but your test is a no-brainer IMO.

The ability to have my character's FF build for a relatively low one time purchase ?

At the cost of not having access to costume pieces that I dont like anyway, at the cost of having only one bag slot to pick up drops that I generally dont pick up anyway, at the cost of having to store my resources in the form of crafting materials, etc, etc...

In other words giving up nothing.

If the benefits of a gold sub don't matter to you and you don't have a lot of characters then yes, this is a better way to go. Which is the point. It gets people who for whatever reason don't like silver's restrictions but also don't want to pay for a sub back into the game.

But I suspect most people that pay for gold, especially long-term, would find it jarring to play as a freeform silver. Sure, there are some that wouldn't care, but I think the majority would find it disappointing, at least initially. Each person decides which is the best path for them. But at least this way there is an additional option to consider.

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Ive been predicting FF in the C-Store for some time now, and support it (so long as something is done to shore up the value of a subscription), but your test is a no-brainer IMO.

In other words giving up nothing.

but you have to pick up the drops to get craft materials :P.

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My question is: When are we going to finally get MECHANON?



World Events
Something a bit new but something we are working on. The best way to put it is, an event that happens in every zone and every instance of those zones that has every hero working towards a single or group of goals. It's big....

Hope that helps...

Something like, say, maybe FIrewing and his race invading Earth?

So if World Events gets put in, then when the level cap is 50, we'll have the Star Guards as End Game?

And if Star Guards comes out, that implies outer space and intergalactic flavored Champions?

And then therefore, logically, at that point, a World Event would be intergalactic planetary, planetary, intergalactic...


Which tells me Tyrannon is coming. :eek:

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*blows dust off of this forum set after having not posted here since December of 2010*

I got pointed to this thread by a friend who knew I missed playing my old character here, and thought I might be interested that the possibilty of ala-carte Freeform slots had come up....and I must say, the people here incredibly short-sighted.

Free-form building is nearly the *only* major draw Champions has ever had, compared to other games out there--yes, their Costume Creator has more options and parts than any I know of, and the Nemesis system is unique, but those two aren't enough to hang a game on. But it's the ability to craft an ability set to fit *your* play style that was the reason I played.

For some, Archetypes work...which is understandable, given the complaints about there being too *many* choices. For me...there is not *one* Archetype that I'd enjoy playing that much, mainly because every single one of them is designed fairly poorly (which to be honest I'm sure is intentional, to promote both group play and purchases of powerups from the cash store), especially for my play style. Even the one that comes closest to my old character, I ended up wanting to reach through the net and smack the designer in the head for putting Lead Tempest as the very last power in the build, when it would be a *lot* more useful the early/mid levels for dealing with groups of enemies...

To put it another way, if I was ever going to play CO again, I'd want my old character back.
DCUO provides flexibility and choices, even for F2P players.
City of Heroes provides flexibility and choices for F2P players. (less than CO freeform, but obviously more than Archetypes do)
Even Cryptic's other MMO, Star Trek Online, provides more flexibility to F2P players *and* was smart enough to 'grandfather' existing characters to the changed system. Though, come to think ot it, it seems like for the most part the grandfathering wasn't such a major thing--about the only thing I've really used my old character for is as a crafting and storage mule, along with a few fast dailies. The only *real* play I've done is on the new character I started since F2P launched.

Champion's Archetype system provides nearly *no* significant flexibility to speak of, I can't remember if it has something resembling the 'Premium' level that other games have (basically, spend *some* in the cash store, and you unlock features above what you bought that make it actually worthwhile to do so--and returning/lapsed-subbers automatically get this), and on top of that, Cryptic has a really bad cash-to-points ratio for their cash store ($6.25 for an allotment value that you get for $5 in the other two games)

Personally...I've spent money on CoH as a free-player. I've spent money on DCUO as a free-player. I'm *considering* spending money on STO, with the only things holding me back are that poor exchange rate and waryiness about Perfect World. If I had time to play it, I'd probably consider spending on Guild Wars, which has what I consider perhaps the best model for both sides--purchase fee for the game and major exapansion that are around the same as for a single-player game, free play after that with a cash store for additional bonuses. Champions...I have no desire to play again at all at this point due to it's lack of flexibility, which means, among other things, it doesn't even get the opportunity to make me *consider* spending in the cash store like STO is doing.

In this economy, noone wants Yet Another Recurring Payment--this is why F2P games are on such a surge, along with on a smaller scale the 'Pay Once, Play Forever' Lifetime type plans for those who can afford one lump-sum payment...paying *once* and always having access to what you paid for is far, far more attractive than the whole 'If I stop paying, then everything I've already spent was completely wasted' inherent in the subscription model. IMHO...Champions is going to *have* to offer purchasable freeform slots at some point, or at the very least provide more choices and flexibility than the current Archetype system provides (to be honest, a happy medium might be to do something more akin to CoH--at a given level, you can pick any power you want...within one or two power sets chosen at creation), or they're going to bleed players to other games that *do* provide those choices without having to subscribe.

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Nice to see that Champions Online is still growing and improving even after the many different homes it has had in the last two years.
I welcome the improvements
thank you for you hard work

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I'm pretty sure me buying a Freeform slot one slot at a time isn't going to make your Gold account seem like a waste of money... in fact I'm the one wasting my money. Besides if a Silver likes having 1 freeform they might consider upgrading to get all their characters to free form and the other gold perks.
Shhhhhh...you making too much sense. Let them think they are getting shafted :D

R.I.F
“Once you learn to read, you will be forever free.” –Frederick Douglass

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Im cool with the whole Silver Freeform slot.
The only thing I could say is maybe limit the number of powers the silver freeforms get to the same as the AT.

But I know friends who would play this game and buy more from the C-store if they could get the freeform.




As a side note:
I like how there are the flame people who keep saying this is from the silver members whining and now its all OK to whine and throw a tantrum about something the Dev are only thinking about. (this isn’t all of them but a fair few)

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Feels like the main reason why being a Gold member is being given away :/ Not to mention, if Silvers have an option to create a Freeform, why would they choose a premium or any Arch Type at all.

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Feels like the main reason why being a Gold member is being given away :/ Not to mention, if Silvers have an option to create a Freeform, why would they choose a premium or any Arch Type at all.

Because it'd be cheaper and most of use silvers build our characters around the archetypes we have or ones were about to purchase. Also as I have stated before you golds have more things that we do not, like costumes and the ability to color powers and not to mention all over the nice travel powers your hideout you got for free and all of the adventure packs, the vastly larger money cap and getting all of the bags you can use plus the free character slot when you hit 40 that you can get every time you hit 40 on another guy. You guys get a lot that we silvers do not.

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I'm only about half way thru the thread, but I think FF slots for Silvers can be a good addition. Let me be clear. At one time the I was against FF slots for silvers, but now i think; if done properly, could be a boon to the game. It'll be a boost for pvp and pve in general to have hordes of new FFs running arround.

What worries me about FF slots for silvers is the retcons. Many of us have multiple 40's and multiple free retcons on each, and we have a pretty good idea of how to build characters. But think back on how it was when you first started? how times did you retcon your characters? How many retcons tokens did you burn thru? It was so bad those first few retcons people would rather start a new alt and build it better than farm up the gold or pay up for a retcon token!

While its possible for a silver to pay for a retcon thru gold, its a hassle. And even if they're willing to put up with it they still have to farm up the 800+ gold it takes... not an enjoyable prospect for anyone, even vets. So that leaves us with the elephant in the room... the retcon tokens. Any vet will probably tell you they're incredibly overpriced for the service it provides, yet at one time it was clearly intended to be a volume seller (and it probably WAS at first, but then the price got raised to "make your character's powers matter" or some such thing). This, I believe is what Cryptic is really after. I would guess they know us vets will never buy one again (and at 1000 CPs we'd have to be nuts), but its a pricey service they hope will experience a spike in sales if hordes of hopefull silvers buy a FF slot and proceed to gimp their characters. Unlike vets that get a free retcon token every so often, silver players will always have to decide wether to farm up an insane amount of gold or pony up cash.

What worries me is that this will cause players to spend more tahn tehy expected to (much like with the grab bags) and subesequently get soured on CO and leave the game entirely. Before all the grab bag defenders and the "its not gambling" proclaimers, and the "people should control themselves" crowd jump in, bear in mind that wether or not they should blame themselves for overspending is irrelevant to them not feeling awful about it afterwards. Games that make you feel awful and where you can easily overspend make people think twice about staying.

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Lots of steps you guys go through! Very thorough.

Lookin' good! ::thumbs up::

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While its possible for a silver to pay for a retcon thru gold, its a hassle. And even if they're willing to put up with it they still have to farm up the 800+ gold it takes...

dang thats a lot, sucks that we can only hold 250g.

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Ok, so I was pondering what this new ENHANCEMENT crafting system might entail and the main thing that came to mind were Power Replacers. So my question is this... Will Power Replace Gear be removed from drops completely, and will we instead be able to enhance any gear we decide to upgrade with special Power Replace FX's and bonuses?

Personally I think it would be really great if it worked out this way. For example, I level and get a new piece of gear I want. Go to crafter and imbue my attacks with a nifty FX. So now I punch/kick/slash/shoot with added electricity/fire/ice/magic/etc FX. When I change out of that piece into something new I simply enhance the new piece the same way. This allows you to keep the look you want in combat at all times through level progression. Instead of losing it because you out leveled your power replacer.:(

So yeah, yes... no... maybe so?:D

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Ok, so I was pondering what this new ENHANCEMENT crafting system.

So yeah, yes... no... maybe so?:D

Also wondering about this,but , i am wondering how this will effect the crafted travel powers, because, id love to have the rolling travel power if it did not look like such a vast endeavor to undertake. :p also it does not fit my class apparently. Not the travel power the arms crafting choice.

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some good, most sad, some not thought through at all. mistakes made (I know i'm in the same business, but i have experience) that other mmos made, that really destroyed them.

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Also wondering about this,but , i am wondering how this will effect the crafted travel powers, because, id love to have the rolling travel power if it did not look like such a vast endeavor to undertake. :p also it does not fit my class apparently. Not the travel power the arms crafting choice.

Good Im not the only one wondering about this.

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dang thats a lot, sucks that we can only hold 250g.

... you can hold more in valuables... *crickets*

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Someone asked a followup question about emanation points that I haven't seen addressed yet.

You're not really going to release the Wizard Costume set w/out staves (staffs?) and additional emanation points for powers ARE YOU??

Re: XP Gifting - could my level-capped toon use this to continue to earn EXP that could be given to others? That would be a reason to go back to playing him...

Yay for Nemesis updates! :D I will repeat my previously stated request for more Nem missions, and for some way to designate the general "type" of Nemesis (Science, Arms, or Magic), as it's jarring to me when my magical Nem steals DNA samples or shipments of experimental weapons; my grim, gritty Gun-oriented Nem steals magical artifacts, and so forth.

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... you can hold more in valuables... *crickets*
Yeah, that gets brought up every time the limit is mentioned.

Problem is, the trainers won't take payment in crafting mats. Neither will the AH. If you're Silver and you have more than 250G in mats, you can't convert them all to a usable in-game currency - best you can do is use them in trade with a Gold who has what you want.

Oh, to the person who wanted Silver FF slots tested thoroughly in PTS - how exactly would one do that? Since Silvers can't access PTS, that would seem a tad difficult...

(Yes, that's yet another benefit of Gold membership that gets sluffed over a lot in these conversations. As a Gold, you get eight [sixteen, if you're LTS] slots, any one of which can be Freeform or any of the purchasable ATs at no extra cost to you; each of your characters will have all four bag slots open; new bank tabs can be purchased for resources, not C-points; you get to color your powers to suit yourself, provided you don't want white or black; you get access to more costume bits for free; if you want even more costume bits, you get 400 C-points per month for free; and last but not least, when a new idea is in test, you get to test it. Silvers don't get that privilege.)

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Just a thought on the nemesis thing, I had a funny thought that has been seen a few times before in shows/comics: To enter a cafe when not heroing and to randomly meet your nemesis sometimes. Not trying to kill each other, not rescuing or destroying, just two different people sitting at the local diner for supers drinking coffee, chit chatting, maybe discussing like why the villain failed or talk about past memories that they felt were grand despite being a hero and villain. Now, I am thinking this could help what kind of crimes your nem would like to do, if you so choose to do this. I'll explain more later once I think it out a little better but, this is just a idea that would work for some people.

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when a new idea is in test, you get to test it. Silvers don't get that privilege.

I knew there was something i forgot, heh, i know id love to be able to test out archetypes since we silvers are the ones who get to use them. but i know that will never happen :P.

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New Zone Events: Large scale, multistage, zone events that offer new encounter opportunities and large group gameplay
Right now we are looking at building a multistage invasion of Millennium City and a large scale attack on Canada


I want Atlantic Canada!

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That is some excellent content! Especially the end-game and level cap.

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New to this game but not MMO's i can see the plus and minus from the FF for silvers. i think it was best said that it should be high priced and silvers should only be allowed to have ONE free form slot limited to purchased archs. Thus they get a chance to join the fight yet still have enough limitations so that they will want to go gold for more.
Ii do understand that players feel limited as archs but im a strong believer in u get what u pay for and if u to lazy to go get a job to pay a measly fifteen dollars per month then u really don't deserve a so called reward for that. Also i here silver players, and yes i was silver myself until completion of the arch rotation and decided to go gold, complain about all the advantages that FF have in combat, yet being that a lot of silver have never had a ff or been gold they have no idea how much hard work some of those players put into those ff. FF building is not easy to do just because u get more u also have to focus on a lot more stats per build which is very time consuming. Yes there are some badass FF players out there but most of them worked there ass of for it and basically are showing u what happens if u study learn and put that knowledge into play. With silvers being able to get one ff slot not only will they have to realize that they actually gonna have to get out there and work on it and not log in for hours to do nothing but complain about how they hate being silver.

its cut and dry to me.

u dont like being silver get a job and pay for it. To young for a job learn how to farm. A Lot of this can be solved by simply realizing that if u cant pay u gonna have to work harder. That'/s just life in general

Its not Cryptics job to provide complete free entertainment for people who have nothing more to do than sit on there bum all day. Just my thoughts on it

the level cap raise and endgame content is much to look forward to and i hope that they incorporate the ability to plus gear for better stats with a possible break rate as u work on it so that power between toons can be more readily differentiated.

HOLDS REALLY REALLY NEED TO BE WORKED ON AS NOW THEY ARE INSANELY TERRIBLE IIN PVP TOTALLY NOTICEABLE ESPECIALLY ZA IF U ARE THE ONLY ZOMBIE VS LIKE A GROUP OF FF.

keep up the good work ideas look nice

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I'm seeing a lot of very strong opinions in here for and against C-Store Freeform slots. So, here's my two cents:
Don't.
Freeform is the only real reason I'd go gold, to be perfectly honest, and giving it to us Silver players gives us less incentive to pay a subscription fee. It would certainly remove any incentive I have, since I'd rather unlock everything permanently over the course of a few paychecks than pay the fee and lose it all when I decide I want to go back to free-to-play.
Instead, I understand that Gold players get power hue coloring- give us that. A single-use purchase from the C-store that lets us change our power colors ONCE. If we change our mind, we have to get another. For an indecisive git like myself, this is as good as gold...
"Maybe this would look better in blue- Oh, no, no it doesn't, crap." *buys another* "Green, then? OH GOD MY EYES" *buys another* "Red? Oh, red looks nice." *four hours later, changes mind, buys another* "Red's all right, but I think this would look better in blue..."
The best part of this is, Gold subscribers get that for free, so they wouldn't have to continually buy a new one every time they changed their mind. We Silvers get a gold perk (at a price), without removing too much of the incentive to subscribe. It gives us a taste of what could be, without handing the whole experience to us, and everybody's happy ;)

Also: I note there is a Celestial power for the Nemesis, but not for us- Possible future archetype?

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Ok, you're offering freeforms for silvers, but never offered a simple Power Armor AT? Why does this seem a little off....

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Ok, you're offering freeforms for silvers, but never offered a simple Power Armor AT? Why does this seem a little off....

They're not offering anything yet and they're not done with AT. Silver freeform slots are just in discussion.

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Ok, you're offering freeforms for silvers, but never offered a simple Power Armor AT? Why does this seem a little off....
The PA AT will probably be done by the time Silver Freeform gets here (if it does)

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A lot of us players created characters during the Champ's Beta, or on opening day of Champs and a lot of those same characters had already out-leveled missions that were added in later (For example: Going Green was added to the first West Side improvements) therefore we cannot go back and receive the mission perks for those missions. Will this be addressed any time soon? It's sad that new players can flash the "Going Green" completion perk and players that have supported the game since day 1 get the shaft. :mad:

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A lot of us players created characters during the Champ's Beta, or on opening day of Champs and a lot of those same characters had already out-leveled missions that were added in later (For example: Going Green was added to the first West Side improvements) therefore we cannot go back and receive the mission perks for those missions.
You can still receive out-leveled missions, they just don't show up on the crime computer or minimap. The problem mostly comes when you've completed an old version of a mission that didn't have the benefit that appears for the new version. On the other hand, no new player can get Defeated Tachyon.

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To Freeform slots.
This is something we are discussing internally. Part of this report is to let you know what we are working on and thinking about. A feature or addition in this list has a good chance of making it live but not everything will.
At times items on the list might not be what you want to see or even like but that is why the Until Field Report is posted. Post your feedback and let us know how you feel about what you see in the report.

Edit: I have updated the In discussion section to include the topic of Freeform slots.

a lvl 45-50 cap is very interesting I hope that comes live soon also the specialization tree sounded very exiting for me and all my friends. We also hope to get more benefits for pvp thanks RoBoBo.

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Hey RoBoBo...any idea on if and when and what the next AT pass will be? Was leveling a PA character in hopes it would be next...but didn't see a mention of anything...

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Hey RoBoBo...any idea on if and when and what the next AT pass will be? Was leveling a PA character in hopes it would be next...but didn't see a mention of anything...
PA, after the system revisions.

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PA, after the system revisions.

Sorry if I missed that...but glad now that it is going to get reviewed. :)

I really enjoy the review of content already in place and building on it, keep it up devs.

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nope, If you are on a team and your team leader initiates a challenge you can decline and not take part at all. This was one of the issues actually. If a member of the team declined the rest of the team that did accept felt they were at a loss being a hero down for the duel.

In the UI all participants of the duel can see the participant list and see that the teams are imbalanced.

Please offer an option to have player characters hit points and (to a lesser extent) damage scale according to team size. Done properly, Boss Fight-style dueling would be quite interesting.. and fun!

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Wooo Team Duels!!!

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Remember that Freeform character slot =/= Gold character slot. Though they will have all the power choices available as freeform, they don't get all the little perks that subscribers get, such as the extra bag slots, no currency cap, veteran rewards, extra costume pieces, etc. You will have to ask yourself if the money you spend on a sub/lts is a better deal for you than it would be to just buy the items individually. For those that only want one character ever... buying the items individually may be the best value, but for someone like me with over 30 characters, I got the best deal by going with the LTS.

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Remember that Freeform character slot =/= Gold character slot. Though they will have all the power choices available as freeform, they don't get all the little perks that subscribers get, such as the extra bag slots, no currency cap, veteran rewards, extra costume pieces, etc.

A lot of LTS, or golds players don't have paid more than 2 years of subscription for theses things, but because this is the only way to have free form, only for the free form. This is like they said, "mens you have paid all of this for nothing, you could have this for 10x less money. Thanks to have pay to help us to develop this feature which slap you in the face".

And just for fun:
One sub = 15$. If you buy for 15$ in store, you have 1500 pts. Then:
Extra bag slots X 3 = 480 pts. 1 month of sub to equip 3 characters.
Only one free hideout = 500 pts= 10 days of sub.
13 gold costumes sets = 4950 pts = 3 months of sub. And only if a player wants all of them. Sorry, but ....
Veterans rewards, the meh costumes parts with it, the tailor reduction which have no interest because when we have 600 days we have all the money we want to create costumes, the 800 days reward with 40 shared banks slots = 720 pts = 15 days of sub, the retcons i have 5 of them on each characters, i have only use 1 or 2 in two years, the game is so much easy and with the powerhouse, do we really need them, don't we really know to do a build without doing it 6 times?, 2 account costumes slots = 450 pts= 10 days of sub.
What else, gold travels powers ? 8X 420 = 3360pts = 2 months and 10 days of sub. (if you want all. Sorry but...)
6 characters slots 3 x1120 = 3360= 2 months and 10 days of sub. (if you want 8 characters, sorry but...)
3 adventure packs = 1260= 1 months of sub (and lantern was free with an offer, all silvers i know have lantern and don't have paid it)
All of this = 13 months of sub buying in store. Say 20 000 pts to be sure. If you want all of this. (sorry but...)
And all of this without take consideration on sales with -20% or -33% (we had one) or -50% on hideouts (we had one too).

Sorry, but against 28 months x 15$ = 420$ = 42 000 pts, I say: LOL.
Ok, the FF slot for 42000 - 20000 = 22 000 pts. it's ok.

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Heroes!
The Future
These are features that we are working towards. Items listed in this section need the most discussion and are subject to the largest change. This list does not represent all the things we want or are planning to do but they are some of the larger things we are planning and working towards.

Level cap to 45
Level Cap to 50


No.

NO.

NOOO!!

This would destroy all current end-game content. Find another way to increase our powers, or find a means to raise levels without triggering the scaling system so that level 40 enemies remain statistically competent as our list of powers broaden.

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No.

NO.

NOOO!!

This would destroy all current end-game content. Find another way to increase our powers, or find a means to raise levels without triggering the scaling system so that level 40 enemies remain statistically competent as our list of powers broaden.

Do you making all those instances scale with our level like APs and Comic Series do?

Or do you mean revamping them to be fixed at the new level cap?

Because I could see them doing either one.

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No.

NO.

NOOO!!

This would destroy all current end-game content. Find another way to increase our powers, or find a means to raise levels without triggering the scaling system so that level 40 enemies remain statistically competent as our list of powers broaden.

Very few people do UNITY missions anymore. The gear is pathetic for the amount of work involved, and only the daily special missions are all that fun. Finding those damn cave entrances in Lemuria, unless you've been doing dailies for awhile and have them memorized, is about as much fun as being dragged over broken glass on the floor of a badly maintained salt factory.

Comic series and APs already scale, as do nemmy missions.

Of the end game lairs, TT is too long for all but the most dedicated PvEr and very few people do Mandragalore or Andrith Ruins. NemCon could easily scale. And if they're doing epic lairs, which is on the schedule, they'll all be doable at whatever level cap they set anyways.

So... what is there to destroy?

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No.

NO.

NOOO!!

This would destroy all current end-game content. Find another way to increase our powers, or find a means to raise levels without triggering the scaling system so that level 40 enemies remain statistically competent as our list of powers broaden.
Wait, I thought one of the big complaints about CO was that there isn't any "end-game content"? Which is it?

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Great list, Robobo. All looking good IMO.

Purchaseable free form slots is a good idea.

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Distortion Acrobatics was picked over Speed Lightning (Speed with Lightining affects)!?! Really!?!:eek:

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Wait, I thought one of the big complaints about CO was that there isn't any "end-game content"? Which is it?

There IS a end game.

A bare bones, "play a month of it" end game that barely receives new content from the devs.

I love this game, but compare to almost every other MMO in the market both inside and outside the Super Hero genre and it's clear this game end game is about alts.

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Each person decides which is the best path for them. But at least this way there is an additional option to consider.

Agreed. Completely.

I feel that the difference between Gold and Silver should be HOW we choose to pay for our game not a factor limiting WHAT game we are playing.

Sometimes more choices is NOT an improvement. In this case I believe that it is.

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No.

NO.

NOOO!!

This would destroy all current end-game content. Find another way to increase our powers, or find a means to raise levels without triggering the scaling system so that level 40 enemies remain statistically competent as our list of powers broaden.

I am trying to imagine how that would destroy the game, but I am coming up blank currently. Level cap raise was always planned since the game was in alpha, it was originally going to be 50, but they cut it back when they realized the lack of content.

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Very few people do UNITY missions anymore. The gear is pathetic for the amount of work involved, and only the daily special missions are all that fun.

Making the rewards blues and purples would make the UNITY missions well worth it, methinks. Cuz right now the only thing to do is wipe the slot and make a new toon.

Or at least they can get the XP gifitng thing get going so you can have the option of handing off that wasted XP you earn to your alts.

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Heroes!

In Design Discussion!
These items in design discussion are for features that are being considered for an upcoming update. The next step for these topics is to have them added to the schedule. Some of these are smaller, quicker tasks while others are a lot larger and require more to design and implement.


Cat animations and emotes (for players as well)



When I first saw this point appear in your reports I was all :D

But the lack of movement up the schedule makes me go :(

How much longer do you intend to make me wait for these goodies?

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Just to add my vote into the pool here, I am against the free form character slot for silver.

I have been playing for only about a year now, and half of it was on silver account.
The amount of content on silver was sufficient however, and the ABSOLUTE ONLY reason I went over to gold account was for freeform. It is also the only reason why I didn't go back to silver.

I also feel like being able to go freeform is the main thing that seperates gold from silver. All of the other content and bonuses on gold is just that, a bonus. It didn't bother me not to have them on silver.

Adding freeform might convince me not to renew my subscription next time, because I wont be annoyed by having to use an archetype.

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Specialization Trees
Ame is working on a system for the further advancement of your Hero. More information about this feature will be available in an upcoming dev diary
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The "specialization trees" certainly caught my attention. I'm on an extended break at the moment (partly due to a couple of other games - one an MMO and one a life-sucking console game) but have been hoping to see something good to bring me back. I've got more than a dozen level 40 characters in CO and I personally start to get bored when I can't advance my character(s) any further.

I hope the system in the works here is something like the Alternate Advancement from the original EverQuest - that is, you can funnel experience into a framework of powers where you "purchase" abilities with that experience. In EQ, that meant you could, for example, boost your character's chance to parry... or give them an unlimited supply of arrows... or the ability to do extra damage to undead, etc. For CO, I'd love to see things like:

Slightly increase the range of powers...
Add secondary effects to powers (e.g, add a small DoT to a DD)
Slightly increase the speed of a travel power
and so on...

As long as the potential number of "talents" or "alternative advancement abilities" is sufficiently large and the experience needed to get them is significant, this would result in two characters of the same framework being customized differently.

Anyway, I hope this is the sort of thing coming. The AA system in EQ kept me playing a long time after I would've quit. :)

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As I began to read Robobo's initial post I was beginning to think every thing in the CO world was looking all sunshine and lollipops with 44 oz mochas with chocolate sprinkles. Everything in it was good.

I will refrain from commenting on the War of the Golds and Silvers. That is all this thread has devolved into and the matter is only in debate. Freeform slots will be found to be only a short term profit. I don't begrudge anyone the opportunity. As long as they pay more than a sub price for that single ff slot, no issues.

Now I turn my sniper cap backwards with disappointment and put on my +20 Black Mask of Sad Panda Evil Clowness.

Where is the Celestial pass in this? Some of us have been waiting for this for 2 years. There are sets we have been taking the time to post Opinions and recommendations on in the PTS frameworks threads that NEED to be acted on. I have been waiting for a celestial pass so I can go back to it with my main.

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What if instead of a Freeform slot for Silvers,they added an option which after downgrading your character/s to Silver, you could keep your freeform? But have it limited to like, one character or something.

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What if instead of a Freeform slot for Silvers,they added an option which after downgrading your character/s to Silver, you could keep your freeform? But have it limited to like, one character or something.

Wow .. really ? .. bring the people to cancel their subscribtion and then give them even some presents ?

Hey guys .. whoever drops his subscription will get 20 bucks from us ...

Good idea for financial suicide i think .. but else ? :D

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So I was thinking about the World Events.

Could it be possible to just have them work on multiple zones instead of every zone at once? This way we can potentially have alien planets/alternate universes/dimensions as zones and still have World Events that takes place solely on Earth. Just a thought.

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I'm all for adding premium freeform purchases. I do think that there needs to be more incentive for people to keep subs though. Maybe subs should get unlimited respecs included in their subscription?

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Wait, I thought one of the big complaints about CO was that there isn't any "end-game content"? Which is it?

Neither.

The truth is that the IS end-game content (to some extend), but it is very limited in quantity, quality and scope. Its boring and not enough people want to play it, or have a reason to. I've tried to do UNITY missions a couple of times, for example, and they felt exactly like leveling missions, only I wasn't leveling or gaining any rewards worth the time spent doing the missions, and I found the missions even more boring than some leveling missions sometimes.

I am trying to imagine how that would destroy the game, but I am coming up blank currently. Level cap raise was always planned since the game was in alpha, it was originally going to be 50, but they cut it back when they realized the lack of content.

I think you may have reached the answer to the implied question by the end of your post. While I don't necessarily think that a level cap increase would destroy the game per se, I believe that it would be detrimental preciesely because of the lack of content we've had since launch. If they haven't been able to provide enough content (and not just quantity, but also quality/stuff people want to keep playing over and over again) to keep enough people interested for our current 40 lvs, how are they going to pull off 1-10 more levels of content while still providing alternative leveling content for the existing 40 lvs?

All they'll manage to do by the end of implementing the new level cap of 50 is add 10 additional levels of content for us to replay every lv 40 we may already have, then get right back to were we are right now. Not to mention the fact that we already have issues with the lack of end game content (which like I mentioned above already exist to some extend, but its really limited and bad) and the game is already suffering because of it now, and has been for a while. Increasing the lv cap means we'd have to wait for the full level cap increase (which for all we know might be a year from now) before all the new end game content starts flowing in.

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WHY? This is your MAIN reason to subscribing. PERIOD. You offer this, and just like a problem that STO has, there's pretty much absolutely NO reason to keep subscribing to your game.

This is a terrible, TERRIBLE idea. There's a reason why all the threads that have mentioned this in the past have blown up, and EXACTLY why this thread will blow up too.

They are discussing about it. If your going to freak out then do it else where.

Basically they can't make everyone happy.

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Once Freeform slots become available for Silver, subscriptions will be a complete waste of money.

I would rather stay sub regardless. If i had unsubscribed and my days runs out, No access to my freeforms, (I rather not Convert them ever) But lucky for me I only have 1 archetype hero all the rest are freeform. Besides If that happened and I was to move my sub to STO I would still be paying the same amount to sub, Sooo I'm staying sub on CO I rather have my monthly stipend anyways makes my life easier to get stuff.

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PS. make option to switch between 2/3 builds on same free form champion please :), this game needs it. I know we have more skills than we need but still. If you want to be very good healer or tank or dps, you require 6-8 different powers with each setup.

That seems similar to CoH, I had my villain use two build sets with Different powers. I support what he said.

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They are discussing about it. If your going to freak out then do it else where.

Because you're the only one allowed to express an opinion here right ?

Basically they can't make everyone happy.

Making anyone happy will be kind of a difficult job if players aren't supposed to express their opinion on matters impacting their happiness.

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Might as well weigh in on freeform slots, I suppose.

From a business perspective:

I see a lot of players acting as though subscriptions are the only way a game can survive, which is simply false. There are plenty of games out there that follow a fully F2P model rather than the hybrid subscription/F2P thing that western developers came up with. Rather than only considering that some people will stop subscribing, one must also realize that some people who currently aren't subscribing will be moved to spend more. (e.g. CO is currently getting $0 from me. If they sell freeform slots, they're going to get some of my money every time I make a character. And this is an alt-heavy game, so imagining this as only temporary cash flow is misguided at best.)

There's an entire world of potential customers out there who simply will not subscribe to any game, and when they see something like CO where non-subscribers are denied what has been called the game's only selling point, they don't stick around. However, if you make a la carte purchases a viable option, they'll spend far more than you'd ever dream of asking for a subscription. There are plenty of games using a fully non-subscription model which are doing very, very well financially, which is why the industry is moving that direction.

But more importantly: The devs don't come to this forum for business advice. They come here to see what players want out of the game /as players/, not as self-imagined shareholders. I imagine they get tired of having players shout about finances to them all the time.

So as a player, I will say this: Currently I only log in when a friend asks me to, because the game is flat when you're playing an archetype and I won't take part in the subscription model. Freeform slots would go a long way towards getting me interested and playing the game for its own merits.

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Might as well weigh in on freeform slots, I suppose.

From a business perspective:

I see a lot of players acting as though subscriptions are the only way a game can survive, which is simply false. There are plenty of games out there that follow a fully F2P model rather than the hybrid subscription/F2P thing that western developers came up with. Rather than only considering that some people will stop subscribing, one must also realize that some people who currently aren't subscribing will be moved to spend more. (e.g. CO is currently getting $0 from me. If they sell freeform slots, they're going to get some of my money every time I make a character. And this is an alt-heavy game, so imagining this as only temporary cash flow is misguided at best.)

There's an entire world of potential customers out there who simply will not subscribe to any game, and when they see something like CO where non-subscribers are denied what has been called the game's only selling point, they don't stick around. However, if you make a la carte purchases a viable option, they'll spend far more than you'd ever dream of asking for a subscription. There are plenty of games using a fully non-subscription model which are doing very, very well financially, which is why the industry is moving that direction.

But more importantly: The devs don't come to this forum for business advice. They come here to see what players want out of the game /as players/, not as self-imagined shareholders. I imagine they get tired of having players shout about finances to them all the time.

So as a player, I will say this: Currently I only log in when a friend asks me to, because the game is flat when you're playing an archetype and I won't take part in the subscription model. Freeform slots would go a long way towards getting me interested and playing the game for its own merits.

None of us know if FF in the C-Store would bring in more revenue than it would lose.

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None of us know if FF in the C-Store would bring in more revenue than it would lose.

Simple questions -- how expensive will FF be? and are Silvers really willing to pay for the price? In my experience, silvers will tend to spend 400 CP 5 times rather than 2000 CP once. As a result, price decision will become a very difficult problem. The worst is that silvers may not be willing to pay for the price.

To attract silvers, personally, I still think the best choice is : separate FF into at least three parts -- powers' colours, AT improvements (3 power slots for ATs), and a free design AT (allow players to design their own AT). Less arguments will happen if they do so. Gold won't significantly feel their rights are losing. Silvers will still be happy because they eventually are able to design a AT character which completely bases on their own concepts (rather than Cryptics' designs). Silvers can still manage how they spend their money.

Do AT reviews, reallocate and reorganize the levels to gain powers, for example : AT can gain powers at 1/ 4/ 8/ 11/ 14/ 17/ 20/ 26/ 32/ 38, and the extra power slots can be gained at 23, 29, 35. From this way, it might be easier for Crptics to extend lv cup to 45 or 50. Cryptic will not need to design another system for 40+ ATs. At the same time, silvers will be happy because they have easier middle level gameplay and they can decide if their ATs require improvements or not.


Prepar bait but not bombs for your customers. You'll have less arguments and dig out more potential revenues.

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Simple answers -- no one knows......

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When it comes to the crit severity. They said that it will now be at a higher percentage and that Items will be the things that increase it. I am curious as to whether or not they simply plan on making crits hit hard on their Own with our ability to specialize in it a tad with items and talents.

However, they may simply plan to make it a Mainly talent thing since a dev said you'd be able to get to a high crit severity with talents alone. Wouldn't it be lovely if crits simply hit hard? As in, at a base of around 50% and you improved upon it with talents and items? Seems it would make crits easier to manage as they'd simply come naturally like most games already have them set up. Building for crit severity seems to add a rather annoying and loud-mouthed middle man where he doesn't need to be instead of simply having dex give crits and crits simply hurting.

Please note I am not intending to complain. This game has shown me vision beyond anything I've ever played and I've been gaming in MMOs since Ultima online. This game is utterly extraordinary and If it ever dies I think I'd simply STOP gaming as Nothing I have played in my over 90 diff MMOs has come close to comparing. I simply wanted some feedback on this as It somewhat concerns me.

Can anyone offer anymore info on this matter? I would appreciate it deeply, Many thanks.

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When it comes to the crit severity. They said that it will now be at a higher percentage and that Items will be the things that increase it. I am curious as to whether or not they simply plan on making crits hit hard on their Own with our ability to specialize in it a tad with items and talents.

However, they may simply plan to make it a Mainly talent thing since a dev said you'd be able to get to a high crit severity with talents alone. Wouldn't it be lovely if crits simply hit hard? As in, at a base of around 50% and you improved upon it with talents and items? Seems it would make crits easier to manage as they'd simply come naturally like most games already have them set up. Building for crit severity seems to add a rather annoying and loud-mouthed middle man where he doesn't need to be instead of simply having dex give crits and crits simply hurting.

Please note I am not intending to complain. This game has shown me vision beyond anything I've ever played and I've been gaming in MMOs since Ultima online. This game is utterly extraordinary and If it ever dies I think I'd simply STOP gaming as Nothing I have played in my over 90 diff MMOs has come close to comparing. I simply wanted some feedback on this as It somewhat concerns me.

Can anyone offer anymore info on this matter? I would appreciate it deeply, Many thanks.

On the PTS crit severity has a base of 50%. We have been told that there will be a means (or perhaps more than one) to increase it from there. Your guesswork is right on target.

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Thank you :). I appreciate the info.

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WHY? This is your MAIN reason to subscribing. PERIOD. You offer this, and just like a problem that STO has, there's pretty much absolutely NO reason to keep subscribing to your game.

This is a terrible, TERRIBLE idea. There's a reason why all the threads that have mentioned this in the past have blown up, and EXACTLY why this thread will blow up too.

They will do this eventually. Because there are lots of players just like me who have very little interest in the standard Archetypes and pretty much only play Champs when there's nothing else to do.

With several other notable F2P games around, they can't afford to let that go. I am one of those who would probably pay for a freeform slot if they offered it. If they don't, that's okay. Champs will just stay on my back burner while I go play STO or CoH... which I do spend money on.

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They will do this eventually. Because there are lots of players just like me who have very little interest in the standard Archetypes and pretty much only play Champs when there's nothing else to do.

With several other notable F2P games around, they can't afford to let that go. I am one of those who would probably pay for a freeform slot if they offered it. If they don't, that's okay. Champs will just stay on my back burner while I go play STO or CoH... which I do spend money on.

I <------(PERSONAL OPINION BEFORE TROLLING) Don't want a community of people who dont wanna spend money. somehow u people seem to not understand that people willing to spend money have these positives. 1- they have some form of stable income which means repeat purchases if happy. 2 -usually a much better attitude than the i want everything free players and have more legitimate complaints such as lack of endgame content. 3- are more wiling to take time to learn ins and out and get there moneys worth let alone make informed decisions based on there own consumer needs. u are basically asking CO this. if they were a OLIVE GARDEN OR APPLEBEES do they cater to the people who come in and spend regularly or the ones who only come in for free specials and what not. take your pick of the community u want but being in business i know the difference in the free cheap crowd vs the i spend money crowd. i will deal with anyone who expects what they pay for attitude before i deal with i want everything free attitude any day

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Thinking your opinion is a load of bollocks is not trolling.

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Thinking your opinion is a load of bollocks is not trolling.

thinking your baseless cut downs make u look like anything other than the fake thug of your icon- priceless

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Ok, first, before I begin, I'd like to specify that I'm using Valgorn's post not to contradict him but in this case, to back up my own argument here. And yes, I'm a lifer.

No body reads any of my posts or any of the other people that explain how this is not the end of the world to you gold huh. Seems some gold members just get made that one of there shinnies is being shared with those that cant afford to get a monthly fee taxed on them, yet, fail to remember any of the other things they get that they'll still get in which we silvers wont.

We wont get color changing, priority login, more character slots/bag slot/money limit increase or any of the gold subscriber costumes or travel powers. all we will get is the ability to pick what powers we have and from most of us it'll be making it impossible to create a character since we silvers usually base our on a set power style.

Ok, so it seems, that it's plainly justifiable to pay a sub to :
- change powers' color
- have priority to log
- have more characters' bags AND slots
- have no limit in holding money
- have majority of costumes (no, not ALL the costumes)
- have majority of travel powers (same)

So, I can cautiously observe that all these things hold more importance than to be a freeform as a subscription would end costing more than a one purchase in the C-store.

Now, I'd like to propose this : Why not, instead of proposing a FF slot, propose all these things in a one pack in C-store ?

(I'm not sure I translated correctly what I wanted to say, english is not my mother tongue, sorry)

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Ok, first, before I begin, I'd like to specify that I'm using Valgorn's post not to contradict him but in this case, to back up my own argument here. And yes, I'm a lifer.

Ok, so it seems, that it's plainly justifiable to pay a sub to :

Something to consider is that:

- change powers' color)

Only if this matters to you.

- have priority to log)

I would agree that this is a benefit to logging in only if we impose a log in queue on all non subscribers. To date there has not been such a queue and so this is not a benefit. Ive seen others suggest that this is a benefit for subscribers in the past and I will ask y ou the same question I asked them, are you requesting that Cryptic impose an artificial log in queue specifically so that this will be a benefit ?

- have more characters' bags AND slots)

Only if this matters to you. I generally dont pick (most) drops up any more.

- have no limit in holding money)

Only if this matters to you. Currently a Silver can store as much money as they like.

- have majority of costumes (no, not ALL the costumes))

Only if the costumes that are restricted to subscribers matter to you (I dont care for them myself).

- have majority of travel powers (same))

Only matters if you want a specific TP, and they can be purchased for a one time fee.

So, I can cautiously observe that all these things hold more importance than to be a freeform as a subscription would end costing more than a one purchase in the C-store.

Now, I'd like to propose this : Why not, instead of proposing a FF slot, propose all these things in a one pack in C-store ?

(I'm not sure I translated correctly what I wanted to say, english is not my mother tongue, sorry)

If it werent for freeform none of that other stuff would in any way entice me to subscribe.


Your English is very good, you have no reason to be sorry.

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Something to consider is that:

Only if this matters to you.

I would agree that this is a benefit to logging in only if we impose a log in queue on all non subscribers. To date there has not been such a queue and so this is not a benefit. Ive seen others suggest that this is a benefit for subscribers in the past and I will ask y ou the same question I asked them, are you requesting that Cryptic impose an artificial log in queue specifically so that this will be a benefit ?

Only if this matters to you. I generally dont pick (most) drops up any more.

Only if this matters to you. Currently a Silver can store as much money as they like.

Only if the costumes that are restricted to subscribers matter to you (I dont care for them myself).

Only matters if you want a specific TP, and they can be purchased for a one time fee.

If it werent for freeform none of that other stuff would in any way entice me to subscribe.

Your English is very good, you have no reason to be sorry.

In fact, none of these things matter for me, that's why I propose to "give" them to silvers, instead of giving the freeform. Based on the original post of Valgorn (and many other people), freeform is not the most important when you pay the sub. All I know is this scene playing in my mind where players ask me if spending 300$ to make my laser eyes pink is not a bit too much :D

But of course, it's already too late to think about anything else, they'll do this FF slot, it's in their schedule. I just have more and more the feeling that I wasted too much money while I should have waited.

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But of course, it's already too late to think about anything else, they'll do this FF slot, it's in their schedule. I just have more and more the feeling that I wasted too much money while I should have waited.
It's not in their schedule, it's in discussion. They haven't even started working on it yet.