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08-05-2011, 09:10 AM
This is my first Bestial, I did already build him and quickly ran to 14

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cat 9 lives: Level 40 Champion

Superstats:
Level 6: Super Dexterity
Level 13: Super Constitution

Powers:
Level 1: Bestial Fury -- Accelerated Metabolism, Rip And Tear!
Level 1: Frenzy -- Rank 2, Fear Sense
Level 6: Pounce -- Nailed to the Ground
Level 6: Acrobatics -- Rank 3, Rank 2
Level 8: Regeneration -- Rank 3, Rank 2
Level 11: Howl -- Make Them Tremble
Level 14: Massacre -- Rank 2, Bloody Mess
Level 17: Ebon Void -- Voracious Darkness
Level 20: Aspect Of The Bestial
Level 23: Resurgence -- Rank 2, Rank 3
Level 26: Masterful Dodge
Level 29: Evasive Maneuvers -- Sleight Of Mind
Level 32: Dragon Kick -- Lashing Dragon Tail, Rank 2
Level 35: Enrage -- Giant Growth
Level 35: Swinging -- Flippin'
Level 38: Sneak -- Silent Running, Rank 2

Talents:
Level 1: The Savage
Level 6: Acrobat
Level 9: Martial Focus
Level 12: Coordinated
Level 15: Physical Conditioning
Level 18: Healthy Mind
Level 21: Agile

Here are my questions: and please give some feedback
1. Is the way I set up dodge as a secondary deface too week to work?
2. Would it significantly drop my survivability if I SS DEX/STR, rather then DEX/CON
3. Do I need a ranged AOE, or are the offensive powers I have taken acquitted to get me to 40.
4. Ebon Void, never used it, but with healing and bonus damage resistance per sec - it sounds great.
5. Is the threat generation with Bestial much higher?? Will I be able to use Sneak with so much agro?

Thank you in advance for you comments.

Archived Post
08-12-2011, 06:35 AM
I'm up to 18, but the agro is a killer. Any suggestions? And is attempting to up my dodge a viable option for secondary defense, or should I go another way?

Archived Post
08-12-2011, 07:23 AM
[\Here are my questions: and please give some feedback
1. Is the way I set up dodge as a secondary deface too week to work?

Yes, there are quipment items that add a small amount of dodge, but they are somewhat rare and your not going to find them at all till the later 20's I think. They really only help with extra heavy charged up attacks too. You could also change your block to parry with its advantage that gives you a little dodge..I doubt it would be too effective without something else stacked with it.

2. Would it significantly drop my survivability if I SS DEX/STR, rather then DEX/CON

Probably, regen is heavily dependant on having a large pool of HP to work with.

3. Do I need a ranged AOE, or are the offensive powers I have taken acquitted to get me to 40.

There was a story of someone who leveled up to 40 just using an energy builder as damage. You're nowhere near that bad off, you'll do fine jsut dont expect to nuke everything in seconds.

4. Ebon Void, never used it, but with healing and bonus damage resistance per sec - it sounds great.

Yes it is, works pretty good with regen too, but see above if you wanna try dodge stacking.

5. Is the threat generation with Bestial much higher?? Will I be able to use Sneak with so much agro?

sneak is total garbage..still, dont bother with it....you can't use it in combat so threat generation isnt an issue. threat gen is based off how much damage/healing your doing...so its pretty much the same for any powerset.

Try crashing wave kick instead of dragon kick, lashing tail boosts your evasion and not your dodge chance...meaning you'll dodge more damage when you do dodge..but it dosnt matter if you dont dodge.
Dragon kick is better with a passive that boosts dodge. You may actually want to not use slight of mind too..you have nothing to hold mob agro with they will run off and reset on you unless your in a team. And if your in a team they'll attack your teammates instead of you since your dropped all your agro (unless you just wanna do that).

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08-12-2011, 08:17 AM
Personally i would switch Regeneration against Invuln, if you don't have a RP problem with taking powers from another set. And you also don't need CON really with Invuln ;)

Ranged AoE : Venemous Breath is really great for killing Henchmen Groups ;)

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08-12-2011, 09:22 AM
I would stick with DEX/CON. DEX and STR share offensive gear slots so it will be more difficult to boost them whereas DEX and CON don't. I would always take Defiance over Regeneration, but this is especially a good idea since you appear to be planning to take Enrage later on. Drop all the dodge-focused powers and invest in Unbreakable as a secondary active defense. I might also recommend picking up Command Animals at Rank 3. Even at Rank 3, they don't do that much damage, but they will be able to take some aggro for you. At Rank 3 they can apply the Shredded debuff, thereby increasing the damage output of your attacks. Also, they can be Enraged by your Howl.

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08-12-2011, 09:51 AM
For a melee toon with SS DEX and Dragon Kick, you're going to be much better off with an MA Form than with Enrage + Aspect of the Bestial.

The most popular MA Form is Form of the Tempest, but if you stack bleeds you can also use Form of the Swordsman.

Archived Post
08-13-2011, 06:01 AM
Wow great suggestions, thanks everyone

I'm going back to the drawing board and scraping dodge. I will repost what I come up with in a few days