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09-09-2010, 12:12 PM
Bored as I usually am, I was thinking around about utilizing range with melee, as usual. I may be stuck at one point, but is it possible to mix martial arts with mentalist powers without screwing the stats up? It felt like a good idea, but I don't know where to even start calculating it up. Have it been tested before? I'm curious.
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09-09-2010, 12:33 PM
One option would be
DEX/PRE
Telepathic Reverb (I think it scales on PRE)
Ego Storm w/Mal. Manifestation adv
Mindful Reinforcement w/adv
Combine that with your MA single target stuff, and you should do pretty well. BCR also scales with PRE.
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09-09-2010, 12:43 PM
I tried a little on my own and the damage is really nice so far, but I'll try what you suggested aswell obviously. Think I've finally found something fun playing for once. :D
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09-09-2010, 01:12 PM
Hm, I tried the powers you suggested but I'm not sure I get how they work. I can't seem to find any good use for them, except for the AoE.
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09-09-2010, 01:20 PM
Hm, I tried the powers you suggested but I'm not sure I get how they work. I can't seem to find any good use for them, except for the AoE.
Telepathic Reverb allows Ego Storm to run energy-free.
As for Mindful Reinforcement, that depends on whether it suits your style. It puts a nice shield on you that gives either a heal or energy (if you have the adv) after 8s or when it gets knocked down. It also allows you to shield/heal others.
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09-09-2010, 01:59 PM
Telepathic Reverb allows Ego Storm to run energy-free.
Assuming you have Pre SS and/or are hitting multiple targets. (I see you specified Pre in your post, I'm just emphasizing its importance!)
I tried a Dex/Ego telepathy toon, and there was never enough energy. Here's the build I tested. Never made it out of the Power House.
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09-09-2010, 03:25 PM
There's currently no good reason for Ego to be a suggested Mentalist SS -- at least for Telepathy. Telepathic Reverb does scale off of PRE, I have tested this. The difference with SS Pre is staggering. It turns Ego Stom into an energy builder, in fact.
Telepathic Reverb can also poc on the stun from Dragon Kick, if you're interested. Technically it's supposed to proc off of any hold or confuse power in the game, but it's a bit buggy sometimes -- for instance, Glossolallia on Soul Mez doesn't work so well with Telepathic Reverb, but it can be triggered...
I would also recommend DEX/PRE for this type of build, explicitly for the scaling of Telepathic Reverb. Interestingly enough, PRE also scales Thermal Reverb, if you're into Pyrokinesis. With the upcoming fix to Flashfire de-spawning on target death, this could be a very potent energy-building combination. Especially since Heat Wave should trigger Telepathic Reverb.
-strokes chin in maniacal contemplation-
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09-10-2010, 03:02 AM
I'll see if I can put a build together this afternoon so you guys can review it. I'm at work at the moment, so can't do it at the moment. Thanks. :)
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09-11-2010, 04:32 AM
Okay, I give up. Guess melee is not for me anymore. I've started to get more interest in tank- or healing roles.. :(
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09-11-2010, 02:19 PM
I aim too at a slender (and mostly unarmed) melee hero with a good healing touch.
Here's a build I tried quickly on PTS, in SL 1st bunker (VH). It went OK despite one low superstat bonus (20% instead of the usual 30%, this due to PREless items). No surprise with Devour Essence and a defensive passive.
Kung Fu Psychic Vampire: Level 40 Champion
Superstats:
Level 5: Super Dexterity
Level 13: Super Presence
Powers:
Level 1: Infernal Bolts -- Toxin Overload!
Level 1: Ego Blast -- Crippling Challenge
Level 5: Devour Essence -- Rank 2, Accelerated Metabolism, Rank 3
Level 5: Teleport
Level 8: Electric Sheath -- Matter - Energy Union
Level 11: Thunderbolt Lunge -- Nailed to the Ground, Essence Assault
Level 14: Form Of The Unleashed Tempest
Level 17: Aura Of Radiant Protection -- Rank 2, Rank 3
Level 20: Dragon Kick -- Lashing Dragon Tail
Level 23: Parry -- Parry
Level 26: Mindful Reinforcement -- Revitalizing Boost
Level 29: Psionic Healing -- Rank 2
Level 32: Palliate
Level 35: Evasive Maneuvers
Level 35: Acrobatics
Level 38: ???
So 1 power and 7 adv. points left. Could go for a hold or an active defense. As it is the last power, it's good for cheap retcon to suit the agenda (solo/team PVE, PVP...).
The stealth-granting / threat-wiping advantages for Palliate and Evasive Maneuvers are tempting but can be troublesome. Not sure if I'll go for these or ranks up.
Devour Essence does benefit from the MA form bonus but not from the Rush buff. It triggers Elusive Monk.
BLEED VARIANT
Vile Lariat w/ adv. instead of Ego Blast + DE adv. instead of rank 3 + Pounce or Mighty Leap w/ CC instead of TBL (to avoid redundant roots ?).
DE would hurt less but heal much more. Yet to try if that's a worthy deal.
Maybe Maci you'll give it a try ;) Anyway inputs welcomed.
PS @Empyreal10: I did not manage to get Telepathic Reverb from the Dragon Kick stun. Is it a reliable combo from your experience ? I tried with staying still after the stun and also following it with Ego blasts.
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12-10-2010, 05:24 PM
This sounds like an idea i wanna try. Unarmed Martial Arts,Telepathy,Fire Would be awesome if built right. Any Updates out there? I really would like to make a not so ordinary monk lol.
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12-10-2010, 06:53 PM
This sounds like an idea i wanna try. Unarmed Martial Arts,Telepathy,Fire Would be awesome if built right. Any Updates out there? I really would like to make a not so ordinary monk lol.
Something I just came up with that can solo PH mobs on hard for 5, in guardian and support. Ego Storm can literally do most of the work while you turtle if you want. Just run in, toggle on Ego Storm, Flashfire, then unload Chi Fists, and toggle off Ego Storm before it ends so the cooldown doesnt start. If you dropped the Fire requirement Id sub in Dragon Kick rank3 for the Rush buff instead and clickie dmg buff for breaking mezzes. Also makes a fantastic support too!
DEX/PRE
Powers:
Level 1: Righteous Fists
Level 1: Thunderbolt Lunge -- Essence Assault, Nailed to the Ground
Level 5: Form Of The Unleashed Tempest
Level 5: Acrobatics -- Rank 2
Level 8: Masterful Dodge -- Unfettered Strikes
Level 11: Telepathic Reverberation
Level 14: Ebon Void -- Voracious Darkness
Level 17: Psionic Healing -- Rank 2, Rank 3
Level 20: Thermal Reverberation
Level 23: Aura Of Radiant Protection -- Rank 2, Rank 3
Level 26: Burning Chi Fist -- Rank 2, Rank 3
Level 29: Mindful Reinforcement -- Rank 2, Revitalizing Boost
Level 32: Flashfire -- Rank 2, Rank 3
Level 35: Ego Storm -- Malevolent Manifestation, Rank 2, Accelerated Metabolism
Level 35: Teleport -- Rank 2
Level 38: Redemption -- Salvation
This is what Id prefer:
SS DEX/PRE
Level 1: Righteous Fists
Level 1: Thunderbolt Lunge -- Essence Assault, Nailed to the Ground
Level 5: Form Of The Unleashed Tempest
Level 5: Acrobatics -- Rank 2
Level 8: Masterful Dodge -- Unfettered Strikes
Level 11: Dragon Kick -- Rank 2, Rank 3
Level 14: Ebon Void -- Voracious Darkness
Level 17: Psionic Healing -- Rank 2, Rank 3
Level 20: Telepathic Reverberation
Level 23: Aura Of Radiant Protection -- Rank 2, Rank 3
Level 26: Burning Chi Fist -- Rank 2, Rank 3
Level 29: Mindful Reinforcement -- Rank 2, Revitalizing Boost
Level 32: Ego Storm -- Malevolent Manifestation, Rank 2, Accelerated Metabolism
Level 35: Ascension
Level 35: Teleport -- Rank 2
Level 38: Redemption -- Salvation
Or this
Level 1: Psi Lash
Level 1: Telepathic Reverberation
Level 5: Ego Blast -- Rank 3, Rank 2
Level 5: Acrobatics -- Rank 2
Level 8: Psionic Healing -- Rank 3, Rank 2
Level 11: Form Of The Unleashed Tempest
Level 14: Devour Essence -- Accelerated Metabolism, Rank 3, Rank 2
Level 17: Aura Of Radiant Protection -- Rank 3, Rank 2
Level 20: Ebon Void -- Voracious Darkness, Rank 2
Level 23: Masterful Dodge -- Unfettered Strikes
Level 26: Ego Storm -- Malevolent Manifestation, Accelerated Metabolism, Rank 2
Level 29: Mindful Reinforcement -- Revitalizing Boost, Rank 2
Level 32: Ascension
Level 35: Evasive Maneuvers -- Sleight Of Mind
Level 35: Teleport
Level 38: Redemption -- Salvation
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12-11-2010, 04:14 AM
Sweet! Thx for info an help. I cant wait to try it.
The Diablo 3 monk got me kinda hyped lol.