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06-02-2010, 10:07 AM
Would Str based Unstoppable + Enrage + Bestial Aspect boost Blade damage higher than Dex based WotEW + MA Form? Has anyone tested this?

For that matter, would Unstoppable + Enrage + Agressor make for a better Unarmed build?

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06-02-2010, 03:15 PM
I've actually been meaning to try unstoppable + aggressor unarmed, shame to lose the focus\rush synergy though

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06-02-2010, 03:34 PM
Would Str based Unstoppable + Enrage + Bestial Aspect boost Blade damage higher than Dex based WotEW + MA Form? Has anyone tested this?

Depends on your stats.

With DEX and EGO at the super-stat soft-cap and STR at 70, you should get slightly better damage over time with Forms, because DEX+STR Focus is better than Enrage, and because crits raise your damage over time by ~0.3 * 0.8 = 24%, which is in the same ballpark with an Aspect (+18% base, +28% with full stacks, IIRC).

With DEX and STR at the super-stat soft-cap and only moderate EGO, you get basically the same deal, except that instead of bursty crits you'll get somewhat higher consistent returns from your Focus buffs.

Then again, you're also losing Rush, which may reduce your damage over time in practice. Similarly, focusing on an energy-management stat instead of STR or EGO may improve your DPS in a not-easily-quantifiable way.

Oh, and for some odd reason, Focus with just DEX is superior to Focus with just STR -- or it was, on the PTS a couple of weeks ago. If you're going to ignore DEX, then Enrage is solidly the better option.

For that matter, would Unstoppable + Enrage + Agressor make for a better Unarmed build?

On paper, you'd do more damage. In practice, it depends on how many KB attacks you intend to use, and what your stats are. If you're just planning to spam the MA sweep kick (Inexorable Tides?), and you invest in CON, then you'll get ample energy from Unstoppable and your Aggressor stacks will be refreshed consistently.

Otherwise? I think Focus + Rush is better for MA Unarmed. You just don't have enough high-damage KB powers to make Unstoppable competitive in terms of energy management. Unstoppable is bugged right now, by the way -- providing far more damage absorption than it should -- so that may color your view of it.

As long as Unstoppable is bugged like this, it's like the best thing since sliced bread in PvE. But it won't last long.

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06-03-2010, 04:50 AM
I have a toon with Unstoppable and Inexorable Tides. The thing is, once the target has KB resistance, Haymaker gets a +50% boost to damage. So it's probably the vest melee attack to follow Inexorable Tides. The exception would be PvP vs an Energy Shield build, where Dragon's Wraith may outperform Haymaker.